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That's fair, and he's probably at the max he can miss or play poorly in, personally I tend to go off 4 to 5 at absolute most. I'd still be very shocked if he's not picked.
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That's fair, and he's probably at the max he can miss or play poorly in, personally I tend to go off 4 to 5 at absolute most. I'd still be very shocked if he's not picked.
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He wasn’t on Saturday. Was completely neutralised
Agree he was actually ABOVE his already high standards early on but he’s got three weeks of ground to make up at the moment
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I wouldn't have Blakey in but it would be a bee's dick between him Martin and Daicos atm for sure. Stewart also hanging on by a thread.
i think Lingsface team below is pretty spot on as it stands.
McGrath Weitering Stewart
Daicos Taylor Whitfield
Merrett Cripps Gulden
Heeney McKay Cameron
Waterman Hogan Rankine
Gawn Serong Rozee
Z Guthrie Fritsch Curnow Bont
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Is there someone who is realistically better in that role for the side though? Look 100% love Holmes but he won't be selected there. Who is the alternative. If Stewart misses another 2-3 then year rule a line through though and that's a slight worry as Scott has basically said you will rest players on and off and I am sure he'll be one.
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I think people are getting sucked in by Stewart's unbelievable game against Adelaide. Outside of that the only other game in the coaches votes was against North. I think he was borderline in the team before the concussion but with 3 games since (out of 8) having no impact you can't pick him.
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Blakey has basically been our second most crucial player, well third if you want to consider McCartin. Personally wouldn't have Weitering in, missed the first few games too, might get in though would be a deserved reward I guess. Barass for me has been the forgotten player back there.
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Sure, but who is the alternative that's the issue here. Are we picking Holmes or Martin there? Not against putting Blakey there but he should be picked as a rebounder.
Saturday he warmed into it and was in our top 5 players by the end of the game. Also this year his kicking has gone to another level this year providing so many damaging kicks to get our chain started.
His Brisbane game was really strong before the concussion too and helped keep us in that for the period where they were exerting a lot of pressure. So that's 5.5 strong games, then missing 1.5 games and having less influence in the singular return game since.
A lot of our performances between Zuthrie, Stewart and Holmes have been so even that coaches votes could've gone to any of them - but you don't usually get multiple defenders from a side getting votes. So I wouldn't just read into Holmes featuring more that much.
Stewart still has the 2nd most intercepts per game (for those having played more than once) and 2nd most rebound 50s per game in the league too. So while I wouldn't quite have him in simply from being missing or ineffective the last 2.5 weeks, he was absolutely one of the very best performing defenders in the comp for the first 5.5. It wouldn't take much other than him reverting back to that form for a couple of weeks to have him back in.
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Seems to be taking on the 'harder' kicks, him and Holmes have been elite at this, and Myiers is just a superstar across HF, he won't get AA but he's probably my favourite non Sydney player to watch, does he ever miss a target jeez
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I haven't watched Richmond for a few weeks but I would've had Vlastuin ahead of Stewart based on early season form.
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Fair shout, he'd be the alternative but is a defender in the 17th best side getting in? Barass (who I feel has been outstanding too) would be the other and he's likely in a bottom 4 side too. It shouldn't matter and I agree, but I just can't see them picking defenders in bottom 4 sides.
Yeah, my bad on that one. I had it in my head at the time of writing that Viney was the captain then.
But still, 2 flags will get Gawn there as the GOAT. As it stands for me he’s “one of”, not “the”.
In the team:
Ruck: Gawn (C)
Midfield: Merrett (VC), Heeney (although likely to be named on a HFF)
Those 3 are the absolute locks for me so far.
Then
:Serong, Rowell (one bad game doesn’t kick him out yet)
KF: McKay
GF: Fritsch
KD: Taylor
I’ve got Hogan v Waterman v Curnow v Cameron (pick 2), Weitering v Pearce v Ryan v Lever (pick 2/3), Martin v Holmes v Stewart v Houston v Guthrie (pick 2/3), Miers, Stringer thereabouts depending on forward spots available, and a bunch of mids such as Bont, Green, Butters, Anderson, Cripps, Yeo pushing.
I’ve got Naicos named in the starting 22 too as while he’s in the list of mids named just above, he’s just too good to not break into lock category, especially if he is going to get the mid time he has.
Ruck: Gawn (C)
Midfield: Merrett (VC), Heeney (although likely to be named on a HFF)
Those 3 are the absolute locks for me so far.
Then
:Serong, Rowell (one bad game doesn’t kick him out yet)
KF: McKay
GF: Fritsch
KD: Taylor
I’ve got Hogan v Waterman v Curnow v Cameron (pick 2), Weitering v Pearce v Ryan v Lever (pick 2/3), Martin v Holmes v Stewart v Houston v Guthrie (pick 2/3), Miers, Stringer thereabouts depending on forward spots available, and a bunch of mids such as Bont, Green, Butters, Anderson, Cripps, Yeo pushing.
I’ve got Naicos named in the starting 22 too as while he’s in the list of mids named just above, he’s just too good to not break into lock category, especially if he is going to get the mid time he has.
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That’s a stretch I think.
Miers, Holmes, Stengle, Z Guthrie, O Henry and Atkins I would have had in front of him at least. I don’t think he was bad by any means and we were much better off with him than without him but I don’t think he had any impact as such and he made some really uncharacteristic blunders by foot to counter the good chains that he got started
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He was sublime again the other night and some better work by his forwards and he might have had another bunch of goal assists or at the very least ‘goal involvements’ if there is such a thing
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Put up Dylan Moores name last week and he didn't let me down. I think he generally needs to be considered at this point, if he keeps it going it's possible he could average 20 and 2 by seasons end.
For me teams should include one of these 3, I find them hard to split as they all have different pros but all worthy in different ways.
Miers
Rankine
Moore
Could throw Stengle in as a 4th option as well.
For me teams should include one of these 3, I find them hard to split as they all have different pros but all worthy in different ways.
Miers
Rankine
Moore
Could throw Stengle in as a 4th option as well.
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Good call on Moore he’s had a wonderful year
English is currently 2nd to Gawn among rucks for fantasy points, and 9th overall. And yet I feel that outside of maybe 1 or 2 games, he’s been frustratingly ineffective all year.
He’s a good example of why people shouldn’t just quote stats in this thread.
Sheezel, Treloar and Zorko are other stat merchants who, while being good players, simply are not playing at AA standard in terms of impact.
He’s a good example of why people shouldn’t just quote stats in this thread.
Sheezel, Treloar and Zorko are other stat merchants who, while being good players, simply are not playing at AA standard in terms of impact.
85.7 percent efficency for disposals. Best in our side for players with over 20 possesions by a long way.
He's up against some tough competition for KPD spots, but Andrews is back looking closer to best form from a few years ago despite the best efforts of the players up the field to make his life a misery. Leads the league for intercept marks (35, second best 29) and third for contested marks, equal first for intercept possessions and second for spoils. Also going at 91% disposal efficiency on 15 disposals/game.
Weitering and Taylor have both been very good in better sides though.
Weitering and Taylor have both been very good in better sides though.
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He also took most of them from the back to uncontested teammates. Again I’m not saying he was poor but he gave 6 turnovers: Max Holmes gave 6 turnovers and was playing further up the ground, had 25 kicks which is more kicks than Stewart had possessions (Stewart had 13 kicks from 21 possessions and 6 of them were kick ins).
Atkins had 11 tackles as well as his 20-odd touches and was in the middle of everything. Holmes was outstanding. Guthrie had 24 touches, turned it over 3 times, only had 2 kick ins, went at 71 per cent, had 3 contested marks in defence, had more tackles than Stewart. Ollie Henry had 3 goals in a well beaten forward line, Stengle had two goals and an assist again in a well beaten forward line and was a constant threat.
There is no one who’s foot I trust more generally than Stewart and who’s ability to be where he needs to be is always on point, but he just wasn’t a real impacter on what was going on. He didn’t play himself out of contention for an AA jacket or anything but he didn’t play himself into one either.
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You would think all 4 would be in the squad at this point and two probably selected outright.
I'd go Rankine and Miers for the 22 so far.
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Andrews was shocking for a month before the last two weeks. Hes a hope but surely he isn’t ahead of Taylor, Weitering, McCartin and McKay at least.
