List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[GS WARRIORS]

This would the ninth draft in a row where we have used our first pick on a mid. Ninth!

Jy Simpkin is now 26. We haven't used our first pick on a tall since he has been at the club. How far beyond ridiculous do you think we should take it? If there aren't players we need in our range, just move the pick, like every other team does. Ironically, we actually had a pick this year perfectly positioned to take a tall, of course we traded it for the smallest bloke in the league.

Comben was our first pick in 2019.
TT spent more time forward than in the middle.
Sheezel will spend more time as a HHF/HF with freedom to go where needed imo. That make does him an extra mid at times.

If we go FOS, he will be able to play any third of the ground. He wouldn't be locked into being an inside mid. He would add a lot of class.

Agree with the bold. Still haven't got over that.

 

[Shinboner1]

Maybe NOW

now?

 

[roos 10]

now?

25min to go

 

[Nutjob]

Am I correct in thinking we used two picks (first rounds) on 2 tall KP last year?

One on a half back, one on a marking Forward and one on a top 3 mid/winger.

So then you add Wardlaw, Sheezel.

Lost JHF and TT.

Powell, Phillips.

Have we really gone hard on mids?

LDU and Mckercher. Even Duursma could eventually play through there.

We have gone very hard for mids. There comes a time when you need to back what you have and address other areas.


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[justroyal]

Yes. Unless you ignore our first two picks in every recent draft.

Will is on a one year extension.

We unfortunately need to factor in Jy’s longevity considering repeated injury.

Powell needs to go to another level, whether it’s fitness or consistency.

Leaves us with Ldu, Wardlaw, Sheezel, McKercher that we can really back for being that midfield spine. And who knows what happens with Tasmania with the latter, or even if LDU stays.

If there was a King type, yeah I get it. But if there isn’t, is that bad going for a quality dynamic mid vs a speculative KP?

And I feel like years gone by we’ve gone with selecting the best available at our pick.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

SOS really is a one trick pony.

Ex-Blues midfielder joins Saints as delisted free agent​

Jack Carroll joins the Saints after being delisted by the Blues

www.afl.com.au

 

[giantroo]

 

[perplexed]

Comben was our first pick in 2019.

Na. We traded our first pick in 2019 into 2020 and used it on Powell.

TT spent more time forward than in the middle.
Sheezel will spend more time as a HHF/HF with freedom to go where needed imo. That make does him an extra mid at times.

TT started as a forward but became a mid and Sheezel will be one too - but not a pure one coz we want him everywhere.

If we go FOS, he will be able to play any third of the ground. He wouldn't be locked into being an inside mid. He would add a lot of class.

Agree with the bold. Still haven't got over that.

FOS would be great on a wing or at half-back, but does taking him improve us as much as filling the gaping holes we have with quality tall and small forwards? We can't keep kicking this can down the road.

 

[Rooboys Rool]

 

[DrZaius]

Thrilling

 

[North Viking]

Well that was event filled draft pick trade period, one for the ages

i guess Richmond are assessing who will be available at 2 before they give up 6 and 10/11. :/

 

[Event Horizon]

Logically speaking, there won’t be a deal with Richmond, if there hasn’t been one already. I can understand why some clubs wait for the draft night to do their pick trades, as they want to see who is still available and how the draft pans out. But given we are talking about pick [emoji638] here, there is nothing for Richmond to wait on. They know who they will be taking with pick [emoji637], and if they really wanted pick [emoji638] they would have already done the deal


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[shinboner magic]

Logically speaking, there won’t be a deal with Richmond, if there hasn’t been one already. I can understand why some clubs wait for the draft night to do their pick trades, as they want to see who is still available and how the draft pans out. But given we are talking about pick [emoji638] here, there is nothing for Richmond to wait on. They know who they will be taking with pick [emoji637], and if they really wanted pick [emoji638] they would have already done the deal


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Not entirely true as they could be waiting for a crazy deal for 6,10 or 11.
They could also be waiting for us to buckle and accept unders

 

[The Nostradamus]

Logically speaking, there won’t be a deal with Richmond, if there hasn’t been one already. I can understand why some clubs wait for the draft night to do their pick trades, as they want to see who is still available and how the draft pans out. But given we are talking about pick [emoji638] here, there is nothing for Richmond to wait on. They know who they will be taking with pick [emoji637], and if they really wanted pick [emoji638] they would have already done the deal


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Or they want it but aren’t offering enough

And come draft night they may pony up more

 

[Event Horizon]

Not entirely true as they could be waiting for a crazy deal for 6,10 or 11.
They could also be waiting for us to buckle and accept unders

I was talking about our pick 2


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[Event Horizon]

Or they want it but aren’t offering enough

And come draft night they may pony up more

But what changes between now and draft night?


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[DunderHead]

But what changes between now and draft night?


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Their confidence that we need to trade 2 for multiple picks.

 

[Lomas]

Thrilling

Sometimes the pay off just exceeds the expectation.

 

[Chip Scab1]

Am i hallucinating, somehow we go from pick #2 to pick #28 and #31, and help * into the bargain ?

Have a coffee...it can be difficult to keep up, but not that difficult. Basically it's #2 (2024) + 2025 (R3) into 28,31 (2024) + 2xF1 (~#'s 4&8 in 2025), Essington pay a fortune to move up and take a bloke who might help them into 15th spot, delivering us 2024 R2's(28+31) + 2025 Pick 4 & Pick 8 to to go alongside our own likely Pick #2. Instead of Trading #2 this year for a few ciggies left in the ashtray of Melbourne or Richmond in an even draft year, we have 28,31 &~55 this year, picks which should deliver us 3 of Hannaford, Gerryn, Benny Barratt, Barrat, Sims etc and 3x likely Top 10 for better top end of next years draft.

Their confidence that we need to trade 2 for multiple picks.

I would guarantee they are waiting for our move, if it doesn't come, they don't want to be left holding their dicks while we build a midfield that will take 3 more years for them of multitudes of ineptness to just match forget better.

 

[Lomas]

Have a coffee...it can be difficult to keep up, but not that difficult. Basically it's #2 (2024) + 2025 (R3) into 28,31 (2024) + 2xF1 (~#'s 4&8 in 2025), Essington pay a fortune to move up and take a bloke who might help them into 15th spot, delivering us 2024 R2's(28+31) + 2025 Pick 4 & Pick 8 to to go alongside our own likely Pick #2. Instead of Trading #2 this year for a few ciggies left in the ashtray of Melbourne or Richmond in an even draft year, we have 28,31 &~55 this year, picks which should deliver us 3 of Hannaford, Gerryn, Benny Barratt, Barrat, Sims etc and 3x likely Top 10 for better top end of next years draft.


I would guarantee they are waiting for our move, if it doesn't come, they don't want to be left holding their dicks while we build a midfield that will take 3 more years for them of multitudes of ineptness to just match forget better.

Jeepers muttley45, if that doesn’t clear things up for you I don’t know if anything ever will.

 

[The Nostradamus]

But what changes between now and draft night?


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Their desperation to get the 2 best kids, they’ll get more inside info between now and then

Instead of risking their preferred target not being there at pick 6

 

[Chip Scab1]

Jeepers muttley45, if that doesn’t clear things up for you I don’t know if anything ever will.

I've worked it out and i'm not so smart, breathe, it can be done and it really doesn't help Essington out that much, it might actually save us from ourselves (more importantly). I admire the out of the box thinking of the ironically named perplexed and in this instance due to the turgidly-paced goings on, happy to read it, happy to think it through and happy to back in some off beat scenario that nobody else thought of at all. Kudos to him is all...

 

[DuckYeah]

But what changes between now and draft night?


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Your emojis are still killing it

 

[Event Horizon]

Their confidence that we need to trade [emoji638] for multiple picks.

Yes, and that’s our issue. But we can just use [emoji638] and then hopefully trade back in using F[emoji638] once other clubs see some of their targets disappear off the draft board. All we really need is one more pick. Then use [emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji638] and will be one around [emoji640][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji640]], and use a late pick on Stevens


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[shinboner magic]

I was talking about our pick 2


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So was I