List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread

[Samsquanch]

I think we're going to need to be aggressive and maybe take a little risk. We have to put an end to these bottom of the ladder finishes.

I would be happy with the following:

IN: Viney OUT: Pick 22
IN: Parker OUT: Pick 40
IN: Pick 6, 20 (GC) OUT: F1
IN: Pick 4, 28 (Crows) OUT: Pick 2 (Draper)

So we end up with 4, 6, 20, 28, Viney and Parker for 2, F1, 22, 40.

Those picks would get us Armstrong, Top mid, Gerreyn or other key forward and small forward plus, most importantly, we address the leadership issue at our club which in my mind is what's holding us back more than anything.

Do you have Brady's email address?

 

[R00StaR]

Do you have Brady's email address?

Big risk trading the F1 given we're likely to end bottom 4 and at this stage only Richmond will be worse. Im not entirely against it, but we'd have to get GC first at the very least and recruitment would want to be pretty sure that pick is on par with what we might get next year.
Im also not keen dropping our first back. FOS and Draper both are exactly what we need. FOS HB then wing and Draper's speed and skill we're crying out for.

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

 

[Shinboner1]

So he's going or staying?

 

[Rollmop]

It's a collective phenomenon. Scatter them about to different teams and their disposal would be fine. Do we really think that their neural pathways for footy's motor actions are weaker than the average AFL player? Nup. I don't buy it. North Melbourne atm is a place of low confidence, low belief, low strenuous effort, and probably still low fitness. That means that when one or two unforeseen things go wrong that increase the pressure on the team, as happened yesterday with Chom, then Larkey, the fragile foundations begin to crumble fast. Players turn inwardly rather than leaning on their teammates and working out what can be done to stop the opposition momentum, and the result is a disjointed, uncoordinated shitshow.

The only actually bad kickers amongst the best 23 are Scott and Arch imo. But both don't matter because they each bring other assets that almost none of their teammates have. Someone's gonna argue Jy but I trust his kicking at goal and his left, and probably LMac too, but he's AFL standard as long as he doesn't let his brain get ahead of his skill level. His kicking isn't bad, it's just meh

Yeah, all good points you make and I agree that confidence and pressure - real or perceived has a lot to do with it. Our fitness and our training standards wouldn’t be quite there yet either. Agree with you on Scott but I actually rate Archers kicking now, he’s put in the work and his kicking has improved out of sight for mine. Agree to disagree re Jy & Lmac! (do agree Jy is a good kick for goal though).

 

[muttley45]

Was the Shai Bolton

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1.4

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12.7

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9.2

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3.0

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story a Jon Ralph scoop ? he might have to back up the truck again ha ha

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

an unexpected twist or just incorrectly reported?

 

[Merlin007]

If anything, its slightly overs.

He's a UFA next year, and if he leaves then they'll get nothing.

Is that actually right? UFA movements attract compensation IIRC?

they just generally don't because they're generally 2-3 year deals at best, and usually not top market rates, so they don't trigger the formula

that's just my understanding, and may well be wrong, so if anyone can clarify whether UFAs attract compensation for the side losing the player?

 

[Samsquanch]

So he's going or staying?

We'll see...

 

[roos_fanatic08]

We need a couple of meat axe types that can provide leadership but also physical pressure. I think Parker would be perfect because he can play as a deep forward with stints in the midfield, he also won’t cost too much.

I’d love for us to also rookie Dom Brew from Werribee, he is tough around the edges but you won’t find a more physical and tough footballer in the country. Players with his sort of physicality set the tone and allow others to get off the leash a bit more.

Wouldn’t be against getting Parfitt as a free agent too, another who can role through the midfield or on a wing and provide some physicality. He is a strong tackler and comes from a successful club.

With that bit of added mature midfield depth we can go and target talls in the draft.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

So he's going or staying?

If he goes there will be trouble, if he stays there will be double.

 

[giantroo]

Is that actually right? UFA movements attract compensation IIRC?

they just generally don't because they're generally 2-3 year deals at best, and usually not top market rates, so they don't trigger the formula

that's just my understanding, and may well be wrong, so if anyone can clarify whether UFAs attract compensation for the side losing the player?

Yes, UFA still attract compo.

AFL free agency compensation: Formula explained for draft picks, list of all free agents since 2012 | Sporting News Australia

Since the opening of the AFL free agency and trade period there has been controversy around the AFL's compensation for clubs losing free agents.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[Harris 10]

Interesting that Twomey said North have interest in Houston, but more in the futures market. Not interested in using early picks this year.

 

[giantroo]

 

[year of the roo]

an unexpected twist or just incorrectly reported?

Sounds like head office got involved. "Announce it after the season is done, you pillock"

 

[nicko74]

Tarryn *ing kills us. That campaigner is a ****ing A grade talent. * me, people
Forget we are missing him from last year. I hate that campaigner

Yep!! A jet. Such a waste

 

[Limerick]

We need a couple of meat axe types that can provide leadership but also physical pressure. I think Parker would be perfect because he can play as a deep forward with stints in the midfield, he also won’t cost too much.

I’d love for us to also rookie Dom Brew from Werribee, he is tough around the edges but you won’t find a more physical and tough footballer in the country. Players with his sort of physicality set the tone and allow others to get off the leash a bit more.

Wouldn’t be against getting Parfitt as a free agent too, another who can role through the midfield or on a wing and provide some physicality. He is a strong tackler and comes from a successful club.

With that bit of added mature midfield depth we can go and target talls in the draft.

I don't know who Dom Brew is, but from the above I want him in the blue & white in 2025.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I don't know who Dom Brew is, but from the above I want him in the blue & white in 2025.

Been Werribee’s VFL captain for a few years now. Has avg’d close to 10 tackles per game in the last 4 seasons at VFL level. Week in week out he plays against and beats many AFL listed players. He isn’t the best kick ever, but he is a competitive animal and he is the type of player who’d make you want to run through a brick wall. Outside of Wardlaw, we really don’t have many of those types.

 

[Limerick]

Been Werribee’s VFL captain for a few years now. Has avg’d close to 10 tackles per game in the last 4 seasons at VFL level. Week in week out he plays against and beats many AFL listed players. He isn’t the best kick ever, but he is a competitive animal and he is the type of player who’d make you want to run through a brick wall. Outside of Wardlaw, we really don’t have many of those types.

I like him, worth a rookie spot? Also had a captain's role i.e., has leadership experience.

 

[ohmygewd]

Tarryn *ing kills us. That campaigner is a ****ing A grade talent. * me, people
Forget we are missing him from last year. I hate that campaigner

Oh l let that go at the start of the season when he f'ed up again but it still hurts for exactly the same reason as you have said - such a waste of talent and made this rebuild harder

 

[Merlin007]

We need a couple of meat axe types that can provide leadership but also physical pressure. I think Parker would be perfect because he can play as a deep forward with stints in the midfield, he also won’t cost too much.

I’d love for us to also rookie Dom Brew from Werribee, he is tough around the edges but you won’t find a more physical and tough footballer in the country. Players with his sort of physicality set the tone and allow others to get off the leash a bit more.

Wouldn’t be against getting Parfitt as a free agent too, another who can role through the midfield or on a wing and provide some physicality. He is a strong tackler and comes from a successful club.

With that bit of added mature midfield depth we can go and target talls in the draft.

I couldn't agree with you more. I've been looking at the replay against the Dogs, and one of the things that stood out while the game was still in play in the 1st qtr - namely, we were physically monstered. Some of that will come with time - McKerher and wardlaw will both get stronger - but we also need to recruit to it. We went for ball-players last year (Fisher, Stephens) - we need some tough nuts too (so long as they can run)

 

[Themanbun]

We need a couple of meat axe types that can provide leadership but also physical pressure. I think Parker would be perfect because he can play as a deep forward with stints in the midfield, he also won’t cost too much.

I’d love for us to also rookie Dom Brew from Werribee, he is tough around the edges but you won’t find a more physical and tough footballer in the country. Players with his sort of physicality set the tone and allow others to get off the leash a bit more.

Wouldn’t be against getting Parfitt as a free agent too, another who can role through the midfield or on a wing and provide some physicality. He is a strong tackler and comes from a successful club.

With that bit of added mature midfield depth we can go and target talls in the draft.

Agreed 100%

I've been huge on the 'no more midfielders' and while it's not as pressing as key and small forwards, it's still a huge elephant in the room.

We desperately need a mature workhorse like Brew. Someone who has actual midfield intelligence is a non negotiable at this point.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I like him, worth a rookie spot? Also had a captain's role i.e., has leadership experience.

Think he’ll be 27 or 28 come the start of the season next year. Doesn’t bother me at all when I know what he’ll bring on field.

 

[Themanbun]

Think he’ll be 27 or 28 come the start of the season next year. Doesn’t bother me at all when I know what he’ll bring on field.

Thoughts on someone like Parfitt? Strong tackler, good solid sweeper who can rack it up at VFL level. Played with Danger and co. as well so knows how to player a lesser light role in the midfield.

Size obviously an issue.