Game Day 2024 Trade Period - Lian Yu - that liminal space between trade and draft.

[Lach72]

 

[mattis117]

I wonder who Carlton are eyeing off at 3...

 

[Purple Suit]

I wonder who Carlton are eyeing off at 3...

Paddy Dow 2.0

 

[Lach72]

Be interesting if they flip 14 for Baker and then take Bo Allan at 12.
They’ll implode on the Eagles board

 

[freocuz]

And we risk pissing off Bolton.

He’d be more pissed with Richmond I would think if he doesn’t get traded. Clearly wants out, our offer is not offensive if it is as reported.




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[Docker82]

Be interesting if they flip 14 for Baker and then take Bo Allan at 12.
They’ll implode on the Eagles board

The only thing wrong with that IMO is downgrading pick three.

Their future midfielders other than Reid and an always injured Hewitt look average at best.

 

[nurries]

The only thing wrong with that IMO is downgrading pick three.

Their future midfielders other than Reid and an always injured Hewitt look average at best.

They downgraded pick 2 for 2 picks and got Ginby and Hewitt. Could have had Sheezel. I know who I would rather

 

[fnerd]

I wonder who Carlton are eyeing off at 3...

Finn O’Sullivan apparently, so he can play with his cousin lol

 

[pK75]

Was going to say surely eagles get more than 12+14 for 3, then realised Carlton don’t have anything else, guess that’s where Owies comes in.
I’d be furious if we turned 3 into Baker, Owies and potentially Allan.

 

[DocT]

Why is it not likely? He broke out in 2022/23 and it would be reasonable to expect he returns to that form and even improves on that.

Very few players maintain their peak consistently for 6 -7 years. That is what you are hoping for if you think we will get 4 years peak Bolton. It is more likely that his peak is past. I posted on this earlier in this thread, only 3 payers older than 26 have wone the AFLCA, the last was Simon Goodwin in 2006. Bolton turns 26 in December. I'm just trying to be realistic.

 

[ozzie69]

Let them keep both Bolton and Baker - then try to start a rebuild with no picks.

 

[Mags98]

Very few players maintain their peak consistently for 6 -7 years. That is what you are hoping for if you think we will get 4 years peak Bolton. It is more likely that his peak is past. I posted on this earlier in this thread, only 3 payers older than 26 have wone the AFLCA, the last was Simon Goodwin in 2006. Bolton turns 26 in December. I'm just trying to be realistic.

cherry picking one award to highlight your point isnt actually that convincing, and i also just dont think thats true at all

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Lol, so 12 and 14 is not close according to the tweet Daniels put out but 28 year old zero pressure Owies gets it over the line? What the **** is going on at WC

 

[malpaso]

Very few players maintain their peak consistently for 6 -7 years. That is what you are hoping for if you think we will get 4 years peak Bolton. It is more likely that his peak is past. I posted on this earlier in this thread, only 3 payers older than 26 have wone the AFLCA, the last was Simon Goodwin in 2006. Bolton turns 26 in December. I'm just trying to be realistic.

I could give a **** about the AFLCA.. That doesn't do anything for Freo..

 

[DocT]

cherry picking one award to highlight your point isnt actually that convincing, and i also just dont think thats true at all

What awards wouold you sggest I use, and, if you have the time, what do they show?

 

[nurries]

Very few players maintain their peak consistently for 6 -7 years. That is what you are hoping for if you think we will get 4 years peak Bolton. It is more likely that his peak is past. I posted on this earlier in this thread, only 3 payers older than 26 have wone the AFLCA, the last was Simon Goodwin in 2006. Bolton turns 26 in December. I'm just trying to be realistic.

We don’t need the best player in the game. We need a game changer. Someone who makes goals out of not much. Someone who can pinch hit in the middle and change the mix. He is a puzzle piece that we don’t have.

 

[tonygeeks]

Bolton is 25. How can he be on the decline already considering he is 100% fit?

2 new draftee's could be injured the whole time too and never make it.

Boltons 26 this year and 100’s of players have started getting worse from there

100’s

I said it’s a possibility and if you think it’s impossible you’re dreaming


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[Mags98]

What awards wouold you sggest I use, and, if you have the time, what do they show?

id probably suggest the all australian teams if were going down that route or just have a general look at who are the best players in teh game across the years. plenty are in that age range

 

[Superkoops]

I wonder who Carlton are eyeing off at 3...

Finn O’Sullivan - Cousin of Walsh apparently

 

[DocT]

We don’t need the best player in the game. We need a game changer. Someone who makes goals out of not much. Someone who can pinch hit in the middle and change the mix. He is a puzzle piece that we don’t have.

I haven't said anywhere that we don't need Bolton. I think he's perfect for us. I'm simply discussing what we pay and more recently responding to someone who disagreed with my suggestion that it was unlikely that we would get 4 years of Bolton at his best. We might, we might not. it sounds to me that too many people are willing to pay a price as if his peak for 4 years was guaranteed. They sound like they have never followed what happens to other players' careers post-trade. Some excel, some don't. Many fall well below their previous trajectory.

 

[Ge3ks]

I hope this is just a big game of chicken and if we hold firm, the Tigs will cave for picks 10 and 18 just before the buzzer. I do really, really want us to keep 11 to draft Berry.

Then Richmond take Berry with pick 10.

 

[AstonSouffle]

Listening to Brierty this morning I can't see us budging and it is pretty much a take it or leave it situation for Richmond.

Good, I want Bolton but it must not extinguish the win win position Freo have developed for themselves

 

[Lach72]

Another day with **** all achieved trade wise

 

[DocT]

id probably suggest the all australian teams if were going down that route or just have a general look at who are the best players in teh game across the years. plenty are in that age range

Of course that's true, but it's a complex metric. And 'general looks' are valid but I was trying to avoid generalities.
And, all I was doing was making a case for when players peak. I'm amazed that there aren't more AFLCA award winners in the 27-29 age range. It does present a valid and interesting perspective on when players peak from the coaches' perspective.

 

[CapitalA]

Something was coming back our way.

"Was" eh...very cryptic....so the deal is off?