Game Day 2024 Trade Period - Lian Yu - that liminal space between trade and draft.

[MadMundy]

I'd like to see Knobel go around next year, seems like this site is the only one that rates him over Reidy though.

Lots of "Surprised he's getting another go" comments online.

 

[FreoRicci]

I'd like to see Knobel go around next year, seems like this site is the only one that rates him over Reidy though.

Lots of "Surprised he's getting another go" comments online.

He is being Re Rookies, which is fine.
Him and Jones are raw and bulking up would do them but wonders.
Need all the KPD and ruck depth we can get.

 

[serial_thrilla]

Bin Chicken Board is keen on Knobel:

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I'd like to see Knobel go around next year, seems like this site is the only one that rates him over Reidy though.

Lots of "Surprised he's getting another go" comments online.

From what I've seen from the average facebook / twitter comment that unfortunately crosses my eyes while looking at a tweet that was linked to me, most of them wouldnt have a clue.

 

[greatgatsby]

So is Knobel exposed in the rookie draft or not. If he is the club is making promises it can't keep.

 

[freo_leo29]

Yes he is able to be picked elsewhere


It's generally doesn't happen unless knobel agrees to it with another team

It's a very small chance that anyone picks him but it's not 0

 

[Docker82]

I think we'll upgrade Karl Worner to the senior list tbh.

It won't make people on here happy but we re-signed him prior to the new rules that allow clubs to keep rookies for more than three years. Under AFL rules we don't have to honour any promises made before the rules were changed but I reckon Freo would.

 

[kuhni]

I can't see a good outcome for us here. If he's isn't good enough he'll be delisted, and if he is good enough he won't get much opportunity behind Darcy and Jackson, so will leave as a free agent for probably no compensation.

He'll probably have a good year in the WAFL next year then leave on a two year deal to Melbourne where he'll only be behind 33 year old Gawn and Campbell.

Is the rookie list just an annual contract?

 

[freo_leo29]

I think we'll upgrade Karl Worner to the senior list tbh.

It won't make people on here happy but we re-signed him prior to the new rules that allow clubs to keep rookies for more than three years. Under AFL rules we don't have to honour any promises made before the rules were changed but I reckon Freo would.

It's fine if we have SSP we want to trial I guess

 

[Docker82]

It's fine if we have SSP we want to trial I guess

It doesn’t sound like that’s going to happen.

I think Narkle will be added like Sharp was day one of the SSP. Hopefully the delisting of J.Carroll has made them change their mind though

 

[Ge3ks]

I think we'll upgrade Karl Worner to the senior list tbh.

I forgot he was even on our list still. What is his upside? Haven't seen him do anything particularly well yet.

 

[freo_leo29]

It doesn’t sound like that’s going to happen.

I think Narkle will be added like Sharp was day one of the SSP. Hopefully the delisting of J.Carroll has made them change their mind though

Extra spot if we are upgrading worner though

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

I forgot he was even on our list still. What is his upside? Haven't seen him do anything particularly well yet.

Best case scenario would be a different version of prime Ethan Hughes. Worner's strengths and weaknesses don't exactly line up with Hughes': Hughes the better athlete and more versatile defender, Worner has better outside run. But basically that solid hand type where you can always rely on him to give a solid effort, but you also know there's better out there. Likely won't have any 1 elite attribute either: there's significantly better rebounders, interceptors and pure defenders out there.

Worth noting he had an outstanding WAFL season, finishing 2nd in the Peel B & F.

 

[theGav56]

I don't even think he needs to play well in the preseason, he's a lock for round 1 if fit.

Surely a great pre-season on top of being the best player in the WAFL and GF should see Erasmus become a best 23 player?

If that happens, Fyfe or O'Meara look tenuous to me.

 

[Docker82]

Extra spot if we are upgrading worner though

There’s one spot on our Category A rookie list currently. Select Knobel in the rookie draft and it’s none.

Upgrading Worner would creat one spot.

 

[Docker82]

Best case scenario would be a different version of prime Ethan Hughes. His strengths and weaknesses don't exactly line up with his: Hughes the better athlete and more versatile defender, Worner has better outside run. But basically that solid hand type where you can always rely on him to give a solid effort, but you also know there's better out there. Likely won't have any 1 elite attribute either: there's significantly better rebounders, interceptors and pure defenders out there.

Worth noting he had an outstanding WAFL season, finishing 2nd in the Peel B & F.

In future years he wouldn’t be upgraded unless he got over the ten game mark IMO.

But in previous years he’d get upgraded because the only other alternative is delisting him.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Anyone got the maths then on how many spots available across rookie and main lists at the moment assuming Knobel is on the rookie list?

 

[freo_leo29]

Started with 36 Main

7 Rookie

2 Cat B


36- 5 (Tabs, Hughes, Emmett, Knobel, Corbett) + 1 Bolton = 32 on Main

7 - 2 (Kuek, Stanley) + 1 (Knobel) = 6

2 - 1 (Conrad) = 1

So we have 4 main list spots, 0 rookies and 1 Cat B spot

 

[ROGS]

I'd like to see Knobel go around next year, seems like this site is the only one that rates him over Reidy though.

Lots of "Surprised he's getting another go" comments online.

Having seen a lot of him at Peel this year he is a definate keeper, will eventually be better than Reidy

 

[Superkoops]

Anyone got the maths then on how many spots available across rookie and main lists at the moment assuming Knobel is on the rookie list?

1. Primary list (started 36)
Out: Emmett, Corbett, Knobel, Tabs, Hughes
In: Bolton
Quote from Brierty today: “Unfortunately for Max, we need to take three selections into the National Draft,”

So four spots left but according to this quote they will select someone as DFA (Narkle).

Rookie list (started 7); needs to be trimmed to 6
Out: Stanley, Kuek
Retained: Worner, Sharp, Reidy, Voss, Jones
In: Knobel

Cat-B Rookie list (started 2)
Retained: Josh Draper
Out: Conrad Williams

List changes:
Primary list ins: Bolton, DFA (Narkle), ND 3 selections (14,30,67)
Rookie list: zero change (round 1 will be Knobel)
Cat-B: 1 new selection

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Started with 36 Main

7 Rookie

2 Cat B


36- 5 (Tabs, Hughes, Emmett, Knobel, Corbett) + 1 Bolton = 32 on Main

7 - 2 (Kuek, Stanley) + 1 (Knobel) = 6

2 - 1 (Conrad) = 1

So we have 4 main list spots, 0 rookies and 1 Cat B spot

That would make it 1 rookie right or we aren't counting Kuek? Which list is Voss on?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

1. Primary list (started 36)
Out: Emmett, Corbett, Knobel, Tabs, Hughes
In: Bolton
Quote from Brierty today: “Unfortunately for Max, we need to take three selections into the National Draft,”

So four spots left but according to this quote they will select someone as DFA (Narkle).

Rookie list (started 7); needs to be trimmed to 6
Out: Stanley, Kuek
Retained: Worner, Sharp, Reidy, Voss, Jones
In: Knobel

Cat-B Rookie list (started 2)
Retained: Josh Draper
Out: Conrad Williams

List changes:
Primary list ins: Bolton, DFA (Narkle), ND 3 selections (14,30,67)
Rookie list: zero change (round 1 will be Knobel)
Cat-B: 1 new selection

Are we decreasing to 6 because of LTI or AFL rule change I missed?

 

[ilikepotatoes]

I don't mind delisting Emmett but dropping him and recruiting Narkle/Bolton isn't going to increase our forward pressure. (No not for a second am I suggesting Emmett should be in the conversation for Bolton's spot).

It's making me worry about JLs coaching even more tbh we seem to be doubling down on the low pressure game plan from a list management perspective.

He's probably the best forward pressure we have outside the best 23.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I don't mind delisting Emmett but dropping him and recruiting Narkle/Bolton isn't going to increase our forward pressure. (No not for a second am I suggesting Emmett should be in the conversation for Bolton's spot).

It's making me worry about JLs coaching even more tbh we seem to be doubling down on the low pressure game plan from a list management perspective.

He's probably the best forward pressure we have outside the best 23.

The disposal was too big an issue to overcome in the end. You can't be missing uncontested handpasses to a running team mate under WAFL pressure.

Seems a few small forward options throughout the draft so hopefully we plan to nab one somewhere. Wouldn't be hard to produce what Emmett could give pretty quickly for a good draft pick.

 

[freo_leo29]

That would make it 1 rookie right or we aren't counting Kuek? Which list is Voss on?

We had an extra due to lti Corbett

Voss is a rookie