Game Day 2024 Trade Period - Lian Yu - that liminal space between trade and draft.

[Stinky Lomax]

Jesus Christ Melbourne is beyond being a dumpster fire. You can't try to trade a bloke 2 years in a row and not follow through. The people running that place need to be fired into the sun

They remind me so much of the Eagles in the 2000’s.
A win at all costs culture & we’ll deal with the consequences later.

 

[Joao]

Jesus Christ Melbourne is beyond being a dumpster fire. You can't try to trade a bloke 2 years in a row and not follow through. The people running that place need to be fired into the sun

They need a new, progressive board. A board that sees a young man struggling with living in Melbourne and does what it takes to make him happy. Even if that means leaving the club. That sort of board.

#noulteriormotive

 

[DragoDelph]

And we’re off.

Paperwork lodged for cumming and battle

 

[Daddoo]

We have completely failed to draft another elite small forward since Sonny and then got very lucky and then very unlucky with Schultz.

Cooper Simpson says hi.

One thing I haven’t read on the last 12,000 posts is what this guy might become. Is he another Bolton or Sonny? Probably not. But those guys don’t grow on trees. Super cooper’s got potential to be another solid contributor. Maybe we get either Pickett or Bolton but not both. Could cooper take the next step in year two?

 

[MakeshiftMartyr]

Some of these callers are worse than the ads.

 

[Cobbler]

Yeh but they’ve got a suitor ( Freo) at the ready with decent picks
Could Port match us after the Lukoscius deal ?

Yes, but Pickett is far from their issue or at an age to consider.

Imagine keeping Petracca and Oliver but trading Pickett! That would be beyond horrendous for them.

Port aren’t a worry to us.

 

[Purpletown]

Anyone who thinks we should trade for an extra F1 next year knows nothing about AFL trading obviously.

Presumably the idea is to stockpile draft capital for Chad Warner? What a dumb idea.

Firstly all we need is a single first round pick (our own will be fine) to get into the picture for Warner next year. We would also have our 2026 R1 pick available.

In the AFL the player picks the club they want to go to and that’s it. A deal then gets done with whatever draft capital teams have available.
Unless it’s completely and ridiculously out of the required range a deal inevitably gets done.

If Collingwood had pick 10 this year - Petracca would be going there. They have nothing but next years F1 so that’s a rare example where not enough capital is in the hands of the buying club.

You will notice something in the AFL - the really big clubs, the ones in perennial finals recently - I’m talking Geelong, pies, even Brisbane the last few years, none of these teams are stockpiling future picks to please a rival club. That is the mindset of a weak, passive, minnow club.

The only ones laughing will be Sydney if we trade for an F1.

Take geelong - they knew Bailey smith was coming to them over 12 months ago. Was Andrew Mackie sitting around last year saying “oh gosh let’s get an extra R1 pick next year to please the Bulldogs”?

Was he ****.

They spent every bit of capital they had, used pick 11 on Conor o Sullivan.
As for the bulldogs? They will have to just suck it up and take pick 15.

Imagine for a second the roles were reversed. Let’s say Hayden Young had one year remaining on his deal and every one knew that he wanted to get to Carlton next year.
Do we really think Carlton would be trading out of this draft into next year so they could give us an extra pick next year? Even better - from north Melbourne, so probably a future top 5 pick?
You must be joking. Carlton would not give a rats ass about us. They won’t even put pick 11 on the table this year for a dual AA in Houston!



Use the picks this year on trades or draft selections.
We need one pick in the first 18 selections next year to be able to trade for the chad if he nominates us. That’s all. Anything more than that is a waste of draft capital.

A welcome voice of reason.

 

[rgauci]

Cooper Simpson says hi.

One thing I haven’t read on the last 12,000 posts is what this guy might become. Is he another Bolton or Sonny? Probably not. But those guys don’t grow on trees. Super cooper’s got potential to be another solid contributor. Maybe we get either Pickett or Bolton but not both. Could cooper take the next step in year two?

Given 2024 we looked a decent side. I think we’re top 4 picking Mannagh instead of Simpson. With hindsight we grab that mature player. I don’t mind Simpson, but we’re probably entering 2026 when he’s truly contributing. He needs a big offseason. Hopefully he can rocket into the best 22.

 

[Suma Says]

Given its the Dees who told him to look around this is likely just posturing from the Dees re Oliver.

Letting Geelong know their plan of offering a second rounder or two isn't going to fly

 

[go_the_dockers]

Given 2024 we looked a decent side. I think we’re top 4 picking Mannagh instead of Simpson. With hindsight we grab that mature player. I don’t mind Simpson, but we’re probably entering 2026 when he’s truly contributing. He needs a big offseason. Hopefully he can rocket into the best 22.

I would love for us to target a mature ager, with our picks after 27.

I think it makes so much sense for any club looking to contend.

I also don't understand on the decision to keep potentially offer Emmett a rookie spot. I think their are better 2nd tier player available.

 

[Cobbler]

Cooper Simpson says hi.

One thing I haven’t read on the last 12,000 posts is what this guy might become. Is he another Bolton or Sonny? Probably not. But those guys don’t grow on trees. Super cooper’s got potential to be another solid contributor. Maybe we get either Pickett or Bolton but not both. Could cooper take the next step in year two?

Despite my posts on him towards the end of the season, he oozes class. He could certainly be a low possession high impact player at AFL.

The thing is we’re in that awkward phase of beginning to ‘contend’ so, opportunities are limited.

 

[dont bowl there]

Max Gawn must be embarrassed of that place and probably can’t wait to retire and enter a media job FT.

You assume that the Captain of the club isn't also part of the issue?

 

[freo1997]

You assume that the Captain of the club isn't also part of the issue?

I reckon he’s probably the only voice of reason.

 

[Dockeroo]

Cooper Simpson says hi.

One thing I haven’t read on the last 12,000 posts is what this guy might become. Is he another Bolton or Sonny? Probably not. But those guys don’t grow on trees. Super cooper’s got potential to be another solid contributor. Maybe we get either Pickett or Bolton but not both. Could cooper take the next step in year two?

He’s a pick 36 when all is said and done, we need to set expectations accordingly.

While we may get lucky with him, it’s not a good strategy to just assume he will become a star.
The most likely outcome is that he will become a solid role player. That would be a decent result.

I thought he showed some promising flashes at peel but had a long long way to go yet.

The best strategy for freo is to assume he will produce average or par for what a pick 36 will, and that means we need to recruit more talent in the half forward/small forward position with earlier draft picks.
That can be a combination of Bolton via trade, and ideally pick 10 and 27 also used on small or medium forwards.

The ball is then back in coopers court - if he’s good enough to beat out those guys for a spot (along with existing B22 players like Frederick and Switta) then good for him.

If he turns out to be a bust, well then at least we haven’t put all our eggs in his basket.
Same applies for Jack Delean but I reckon he’s further away TBH.

At the end of the day there is only 22/23 places on the team and if you aren’t good enough you’ll be moved past fairly quickly.

As a member and a fan that’s exactly what I want, unsentimental, hard competition for places to drive higher standards and performance and ultimately team success.

 

[dont bowl there]

I reckon he’s probably the only voice of reason.

Highly doubtful, the captain has allowed the standards to drop so far and players to turn on each other. Angus Brayshaw was probably the leader and voice you are looking for, no coincidence the wheels fell right off when he left the club. Think about how much of a leader Andrew is for Fremantle and what our culture would be like without him and Caleb. Gawn and Goodwin are thick as thieves.

 

[dont bowl there]

He’s a pick 36 when all is said and done, we need to set expectations accordingly.

While we may get lucky with him, it’s not a good strategy to just assume he will become a star.
The most likely outcome is that he will become a solid role player. That would be a decent result.

I thought he showed some promising flashes at peel but had a long long way to go yet.

The best strategy for freo is to assume he will produce average or par for what a pick 36 will, and that means we need to recruit more talent in the half forward/small forward position with earlier draft picks.
That can be a combination of Bolton via trade, and ideally pick 10 and 27 also used on small or medium forwards.

The ball is then back in coopers court - if he’s good enough to beat out those guys for a spot (along with existing B22 players like Frederick and Switta) then good for him.

If he turns out to be a bust, well then at least we haven’t put all our eggs in his basket.
Same applies for Jack Delean but I reckon he’s further away TBH.

At the end of the day there is only 22/23 places on the team and if you aren’t good enough you’ll be moved past fairly quickly.

As a member and a fan that’s exactly what I want, unsentimental, hard competition for places to drive higher standards and performance and ultimately team success.

Cooper Simpson should be trialled at Peel as a running half back to start 2025, I can see him turning into a Daniel Rioli type from the back half.

 

[Dirty_banchez]

If I was Oliver, I would get absolutely poleaxed at the BnF. A total no ****s given type of night.

 

[freo1997]

If I was Oliver, I would get absolutely poleaxed at the BnF. A total no ****s given type of night.

I think there’s enough photos and gossip about him by now. He is 2nd rounder territory. Peter Bell was dumb enough to think Hogan was pick 50 odd after his off field stuff..they are probably in the same bracket at this point. Just shows you why Bell was fired from his position.

 

[Cobbler]

He’s a pick 36 when all is said and done, we need to set expectations accordingly.

While we may get lucky with him, it’s not a good strategy to just assume he will become a star.
The most likely outcome is that he will become a solid role player. That would be a decent result.

I thought he showed some promising flashes at peel but had a long long way to go yet.

The best strategy for freo is to assume he will produce average or par for what a pick 36 will, and that means we need to recruit more talent in the half forward/small forward position with earlier draft picks.
That can be a combination of Bolton via trade, and ideally pick 10 and 27 also used on small or medium forwards.

The ball is then back in coopers court - if he’s good enough to beat out those guys for a spot (along with existing B22 players like Frederick and Switta) then good for him.

If he turns out to be a bust, well then at least we haven’t put all our eggs in his basket.
Same applies for Jack Delean but I reckon he’s further away TBH.

At the end of the day there is only 22/23 places on the team and if you aren’t good enough you’ll be moved past fairly quickly.

As a member and a fan that’s exactly what I want, unsentimental, hard competition for places to drive higher standards and performance and ultimately team success.

A few in our front half were very low selections.
Yes, curb expectations, but we’ve all seen his class.
What’s the knock on him? He doesn’t get enough of it.
No one says stuff like ‘he can’t kick. He lacks vision. He’s too slow’

He has great attributes, but he just doesn’t touch it enough.

This is why I raised the concern at the back end of the WAFL season. He was getting 6 touches a game. Why? Is he running completely poor patterns? Are his teammates ignoring him? (This is what many were saying - I don’t buy that)

Perhaps he’s the sort of player that would play better with class around him, but I also don’t buy that. 6 touches a game for about 5-6 weeks?

He’s certainly one to keep watching. Whenever I watch him and he gets it, you just think ‘Man this guy is class’ then you can literally not see him on screen for over a quarter.

 

[DocT]

I think there’s enough photos and gossip about him by now. He is 2nd rounder territory. Peter Bell was dumb enough to think Hogan was pick 50 odd after his off field stuff..they are probably in the same bracket at this point. Just shows you why Bell was fired from his position.

Have a look at the Hogan video in the Former Players thread. There were no other takers even for no picks at all...

 

[freo1997]

Have a look at the Hogan video in the Former Players thread. There were no other takers even for no picks at all...

Bull. There would of been a few Johnny come latelys. We made the deal before trade period even began remember. Like a a day or two before the start. We were idiots.

 

[Moo]

If I was Oliver, I would get absolutely poleaxed at the BnF. A total no ****s given type of night.

Then get up on stage and read Baker's speech.

 

[freo1997]

Bull. There would of been a few Johnny come latelys. We made the deal before trade period even began remember. Like a a day or two before the start. We were idiots.

Wait for the interest in Stringer come during the trade period. Next to mine now but there will be plenty of clubs coming late.

 

[DragoDelph]

Paperwork lodged for Tom Campbell

38

Tom Campbell

Age

33

Ht

201cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

17.0

5star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

1star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

2.0

5star

D

7.2

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

3.0

3star

CL

1.2

4star

HO

13.2

5star

as a DFA.

 

[Swiggy]

He’s a pick 36 when all is said and done, we need to set expectations accordingly.

While we may get lucky with him, it’s not a good strategy to just assume he will become a star.
The most likely outcome is that he will become a solid role player. That would be a decent result.

I thought he showed some promising flashes at peel but had a long long way to go yet.

The best strategy for freo is to assume he will produce average or par for what a pick 36 will, and that means we need to recruit more talent in the half forward/small forward position with earlier draft picks.
That can be a combination of Bolton via trade, and ideally pick 10 and 27 also used on small or medium forwards.

The ball is then back in coopers court - if he’s good enough to beat out those guys for a spot (along with existing B22 players like Frederick and Switta) then good for him.

If he turns out to be a bust, well then at least we haven’t put all our eggs in his basket.
Same applies for Jack Delean but I reckon he’s further away TBH.

At the end of the day there is only 22/23 places on the team and if you aren’t good enough you’ll be moved past fairly quickly.

As a member and a fan that’s exactly what I want, unsentimental, hard competition for places to drive higher standards and performance and ultimately team success.

Walls has a good record with these kind of picks.

Think get another pre season into Simpson he will only get better.

I still hold out hope for Delean too. I think he could pop.
Only have to look at how far someone like Draper come in 12 months.
Takes times to get use of everything.
Delean played league SANFL at 17 he definitely has enough talent hopefully it clicks over summer