Game Day 2024 Trade Period

ignoramus · 2024-10-14T18:47:31+1100

DocT said:
Very few players maintain their peak consistently for 6 -7 years. That is what you are hoping for if you think we will get 4 years peak Bolton. It is more likely that his peak is past. I posted on this earlier in this thread, only 3 payers older than 26 have wone the AFLCA, the last was Simon Goodwin in 2006. Bolton turns 26 in December. I'm just trying to be realistic.

4 years peak? That's not a peak, that's a plateau!

Given all kinds of things can happen (injuries) that affect performance, what you'd be hoping for, rather, is either 4 years of the kind of consistent quality that would get you top 10 in the Doig, or should their be injuries, then say 2 of the 4 or so years being AA-squad quality or better.

Cobbler · 2024-10-14T18:52:13+1100

I wonder what odds I could get on no trades tomorrow...

Cam Payne · 2024-10-14T18:57:11+1100

Bloody Gill would have made a couple of phone calls and trades would drop daily, keeping people somewhat interested. Dill on the other hand has no influence and it's all happening on Wednesday.

Dockeroo · 2024-10-14T18:59:34+1100

This entire trade period has been terrible as a general spectacle.

Days and days of waiting and listening to media shit talk for nothing.

About as enjoyable as rubbing your balls with a cheese grater

One_Wing · 2024-10-14T19:06:06+1100

Dockeroo said:
This entire trade period has been terrible as a general spectacle.

Days and days of waiting and listening to media shit talk for nothing.

About as enjoyable as rubbing your balls with a cheese grater

so buisness as usual for trade period.

Vimal Anand · 2024-10-14T19:11:23+1100

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Snuffaluphagus · 2024-10-14T19:15:07+1100

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Spot on from Rhino, shit is all over the place and teams are getting reamed...

Dirty_banchez · 2024-10-14T19:15:52+1100

It sounds like the deal will be 10, 18 and 30 for Bolton + P51.

30 + Rioli for 6 + 23 which is very close to the Prestia deal from a few years ago.

Snuffaluphagus · 2024-10-14T19:16:57+1100

Dirty_banchez said:
It sounds like the deal will be 10, 18 and 30 for Bolton + P51.

30 + Rioli for 6 + 23 which is very close to the Prestia deal from a few years ago.

Where dis from?

Cleansweep17 · 2024-10-14T19:18:08+1100

ngl your offer to us is weird

10 and 11 is too high for Bolton apparently

You value him at 10 and 18, fair enough

Then you offer us 10,11, 18 for Bolton and Baker?

This means you value Baker at 11? I don’t get it that’s bigger overs than Bolton.

pK75 · 2024-10-14T19:18:21+1100

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Reading that I just realised tigers are going to get suns P23 which is still a 1st round pick, maybe we want that instead of 24 so we can tick off taking 2 x 1st round picks this year, I don’t like it but…
10+11 for Bolton + 23 is a real possibility, meaning we end up with 18,23 and 30 and tick off the 2x 1st round picks this year so could conceivably trade 3x1st if we win the cup next year and still want Chad

MadMundy · 2024-10-14T19:19:22+1100

What is it with Richmond clowns continuing to come over and try to convince us this is a trade we desperately need to make?

Sounds like they're more desperate than us.

freo84 · 2024-10-14T19:19:42+1100

Cleansweep17 said:
ngl your offer to us is weird

10 and 11 is too high for Bolton apparently

You value him at 10 and 18, fair enough

Then you offer us 10,11, 18 for Bolton and Baker?

This means you value Baker at 11? I don’t get it that’s bigger overs than Bolton.

I agree with you. If it were me I'd offer you pick 30 for Baker.

gaskin · 2024-10-14T19:19:59+1100

Cleansweep17 said:
ngl your offer to us is weird

10 and 11 is too high for Bolton apparently

You value him at 10 and 18, fair enough

Then you offer us 10,11, 18 for Bolton and Baker?

This means you value Baker at 11? I don’t get it that’s bigger overs than Bolton.

We aren't offering that. That is all media speculation about what we would offer.

MadMundy · 2024-10-14T19:20:40+1100

gaskin said:
We aren't offering that. That is all media speculation about what we would offer.

Exactly, I'm surprised people are genuinely buying that we've put an offer on the table for both of them. It's all theatrics.

DocT · 2024-10-14T19:23:00+1100

dominguez said:
Based on what?

Bolton is 25. Walters plays a similar role and was All Australian at 29.

Based on your argument if you like.
Clear the decks first - Bolton is 26 before next season, we'll look at Walters from 26 on ie 2017.

Walters had 5 seasons kicking 30+goals, only 2 were after 2016.
Walters had 6 seasons of 300+ disposals, only 3 after 2016. (Serong, Young and Brayshaw are 500+ by comparison).

His AA year, age 28, was outstanding and by far and away his best season.

In light of your own comparison it's not likely that we will get 4 years of peak Bolton. We might, but anyone assessing his trade value should not be basing their assessment on the best case scenario.

Career Season Totals

Year	Team	GM	K	H	D	M	G	B	T	HO	FF	FA	GA	I50	CL	CG	R50	BL
2024	Dockers	17*	90	59	149	43	17	13	31	0	11	5	5	18	6	25	2
2023	Dockers	20*	127	72	199	56	33	13	33	0	14	21	16	29	10	46	1
2022	Dockers	21	172	124	296	82	25	15	57	0	30	19	11	42	18	62	5
2021	Dockers	16	147	76	223	63	14	11	32	0	21	14	9	32	19	35	8
2020	Dockers	14	145	102	247	44	15	7	40	0	26	10	7	36	43	44	17	8
2019	Dockers	22	303	176	479	83	40	17	79	0	51	26	10	86	83	64	24	11
2018	Dockers	18	206	150	356	65	22	14	59	1	40	32	18	63	47	68	13	8
2017	Dockers	17	197	130	327	74	22	14	45	0	29	25	16	67	46	54	9	10
2016	Dockers	22	244	157	401	91	36	21	66	0	36	20	14	86	39	71	16	3
2015	Dockers	22	225	107	332	77	44	19	54	0	37	17	12	67	29	41	11	3
2014	Dockers	8	79	28	107	29	15	13	20	0	11	9	10	23	6	15	3
2013	Dockers	21	231	93	324	108	46	23	52	0	32	20	21	60	23	49	13	6
2012	Dockers	10	83	36	119	40	22	11	29	0	13	5	8	29	3	14	5
2011	Dockers	3	19	5	24	3	4	3	8	0	4	1	2	5	2	3	0
2010	Dockers	5	52	17	69	15	8	1	12	0	12	6	4	9	3	13	6
2009	Dockers	3	21	11	32	14	2	1	5	0	0	2	3	9
Career		239*	2341	1343	3684	887	365	196	622	1	367	232	163	652	377	604	133	49

s_wd6 · 2024-10-14T19:24:56+1100

Dirty_banchez said:
It sounds like the deal will be 10, 18 and 30 for Bolton + P51.

30 + Rioli for 6 + 23 which is very close to the Prestia deal from a few years ago.

Too much. If we’re giving 30 we should be getting a 20s pick back

Dirty_banchez · 2024-10-14T19:26:57+1100

Snuffaluphagus said:
Where dis from?

Ralph from HS saying that's what the deal is looking like for Rioli. I'm guessing the club will ask for P51 knowing that pick will come in by 5-10 places through academy and F/s bids.

I think it is plausible.

Snuffaluphagus · 2024-10-14T19:27:15+1100

s_wd6 said:
Too much. If we’re giving 30 we should be getting a 20s pick back

10 and 18 is clearly going to at best be marginally not enough. We arent getting an upgrade of 30.

Also, that pick 51 would come in a shitload on draft night. The actual difference between 30 and 51 probably wont be THAT much

Dirty_banchez · 2024-10-14T19:29:16+1100

s_wd6 said:
Too much. If we’re giving 30 we should be getting a 20s pick back

We are only downgrading pick 30 by 10 or so places. Not worth the angst if we are getting Bolton.

Rockmelon · 2024-10-14T19:30:46+1100

Dirty_banchez said:
It sounds like the deal will be 10, 18 and 30 for Bolton + P51.

30 + Rioli for 6 + 23 which is very close to the Prestia deal from a few years ago.

Watch Richmond fans try and gaslight us into saying that we paid overs lol

Quokka · 2024-10-14T19:31:15+1100

Cleansweep17 said:
ngl your offer to us is weird

10 and 11 is too high for Bolton apparently

You value him at 10 and 18, fair enough

Then you offer us 10,11, 18 for Bolton and Baker?

This means you value Baker at 11? I don’t get it that’s bigger overs than Bolton.

If it seems too good to be true

thewiz0033 · 2024-10-14T19:32:36+1100

Cleansweep17 said:
ngl your offer to us is weird

10 and 11 is too high for Bolton apparently

You value him at 10 and 18, fair enough

Then you offer us 10,11, 18 for Bolton and Baker?

This means you value Baker at 11? I don’t get it that’s bigger overs than Bolton.

heypenny · 2024-10-14T19:32:50+1100

Dirty_banchez said:
Ralph from HS saying that's what the deal is looking like for Rioli. I'm guessing the club will ask for P51 knowing that pick will come in by 5-10 places through academy and F/s bids.

I think it is plausible.

Are you predicting this based on the Ralph tweet about the Rioli deal? Or do you have another source?

We absolutely do not need to include pick 30 to the deal. I'm happy to swap a future third for their future fourth, or something else meaningless. 10 and 18 is more than enough.

Dockeroo · 2024-10-14T19:34:12+1100

DocT said:
Based on your argument if you like.
Clear the decks first - Bolton is 26 before next season, we'll look at Walters from 26 on ie 2017.

Walters had 5 seasons kicking 30+goals, only 2 were after 2016.
Walters had 6 seasons of 300+ disposals, only 3 after 2016. (Serong, Young and Brayshaw are 500+ by comparison).

His AA year, age 28, was outstanding and by far and away his best season.

In light of your own comparison it's not likely that we will get 4 years of peak Bolton. We might, but anyone assessing his trade value should not be basing their assessment on the best case scenario.

Career Season Totals

Year Team GM K H D M G B T HO FF FA GA I50 CL CG R50 BL
2024
Dockers
17*
90
59
149
43
17
13
31
0
11
5
5
18
6
25
2

2023
Dockers
20*
127
72
199
56
33
13
33
0
14
21
16
29
10
46
1

2022
Dockers
21
172
124
296
82
25
15
57
0
30
19
11
42
18
62
5

2021
Dockers
16
147
76
223
63
14
11
32
0
21
14
9
32
19
35
8

2020
Dockers
14
145
102
247
44
15
7
40
0
26
10
7
36
43
44
17
8
2019
Dockers
22
303
176
479
83
40
17
79
0
51
26
10
86
83
64
24
11
2018
Dockers
18
206
150
356
65
22
14
59
1
40
32
18
63
47
68
13
8
2017
Dockers
17
197
130
327
74
22
14
45
0
29
25
16
67
46
54
9
10
2016
Dockers
22
244
157
401
91
36
21
66
0
36
20
14
86
39
71
16
3
2015
Dockers
22
225
107
332
77
44
19
54
0
37
17
12
67
29
41
11
3
2014
Dockers
8
79
28
107
29
15
13
20
0
11
9
10
23
6
15
3

2013
Dockers
21
231
93
324
108
46
23
52
0
32
20
21
60
23
49
13
6
2012
Dockers
10
83
36
119
40
22
11
29
0
13
5
8
29
3
14
5

2011
Dockers
3
19
5
24
3
4
3
8
0
4
1
2
5
2
3
0

2010
Dockers
5
52
17
69
15
8
1
12
0
12
6
4
9
3
13
6

2009
Dockers
3
21
11
32
14
2
1
5
0
0
2
3
9

Career

239*
2341
1343
3684
887
365
196
622
1
367
232
163
652
377
604
133
49

You should do Lachie Neales last 6 seasons since we traded him now as a counterpoint.

Might need to pour yourself a stiff drink after reading it though to counteract the depressing reality of how good the trade was for the Lions

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