List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[Yawkey way]

Yes mate he is a gun but how many running players do you want? Someone has to actually win the ball themselves

Looks like we’ll have two first rounders I’d be happy he hear his named called with one of them, quality is quality. Also if and it’s only an if peatling winds up with us he’ll go straight into the midfield.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

*hypothetical

IF battle signed on,
Would people trade out next years future first for a pick in the top 10 this year to snag two midfielders and a faster year of development ?

It would take more than that.
Future picks are worth less than current picks, then there's the uncertainty of what pick it is.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Lot of Hunter Clark love. Always injured, hasn’t put on a shred of muscle and still can’t run out a game properly (56 percent game time on the weekend!).

Like him as a player but think he’s been very underwhelming and can’t fathom why he’s been on our list since 2018 and is still unfit. Injuries sure but I can’t remember looking at him and thinking he looks fit.

Hopefully he has a well overdue big off season.

Good luck with that, he will look and have the same fitness levels next year , 100%

 

[saintbill]

Still reckon Hotton will get delisted.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Owens and Stocker need to keep away from the gym and just run to get fit and drop some kg's so they can run games out better and get to more contests, Hunter needs to both but since he looks like a biaffrin the least he can do is get fit.
I'm sure all of them need to work on some part of their game including Mr Edd (aka Max ) but the three I mentioned can make a big difference if they can lift the bar

 

[The Boar]

If we secure Pick 8 as compo.
How keen are Freo on Bo Allen and would they bite to trade up to grab him?

They have some decent selections shortly after, would still be able to grab Tavaglia

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[CaptainRisky]

Still reckon Hotton will get delisted.

Showed bugger all in my eyes

 

[Gavinmitchell11]

Bonner, Allison, Van Es and Campbell all delisted. Must be more to come though.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Showed bugger all in my eyes

Agree, crying out for mids but Hugo has gone past him. Hall showed more damage and we’ll pick up at least 2-3 more midfielder over summer.

 

[Jesuswasacarpenter]

Clark has been a very handy addition to the mids since coming back into the team and managing to play a set of games. He has a great ability to be in the right spot to get the quick kick or handball out.
It helps when you can have consistency without having to have your face operated on every third match.
In saying that I'm with The Steadier when he suggests some high altitude Himalaya running. However with Clark I'd be worried he'd see it as an opportunity for some high altitude Charas smoking.

Flower gets such a bad rap from the conservative nongs on here....smoking's bad yes...oil, gummies Lolly pops, cake, muffins brownies, caramels and cookies are the go!
A big couple of Ayahuasca sessions in the off season by the team and the coaches will help sharpen their focus...they visualize the promised land and the steps to get there will be seen and imprinted in their pyhscie

 

[Mat Mann]

List changes discussion can go here, please

List Mgmt. - 2024 List management Discussion

https://www.saints.com.au/news/1640958/ Thought TC and Van Es may have gone around again

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just trying to stop this thread being a catch all

 

[Teflon]

Clark has been a very handy addition to the mids since coming back into the team and managing to play a set of games. He has a great ability to be in the right spot to get the quick kick or handball out.
It helps when you can have consistency without having to have your face operated on every third match.
In saying that I'm with The Steadier when he suggests some high altitude Himalaya running. However with Clark I'd be worried he'd see it as an opportunity for some high altitude Charas smoking.

Yep
Hea the guy at the ground sometimes you wonder what he’s done
You get home watch the replay..and see how many deft touches bottom of a pack he gets a hand on to get it going our way …he’s a bit of a freak at it actually…I’m confident when there’s a bottom of the pack scrap…he drags it saints way often
It’s like sometimes when he is tackled or cornered for a kick….has this weird ability to get foot to ball our way ….not often rag dolled
He’s clearly a nature loving naturalist type dude who I’d think off field might be a touch weird …likes sunbathing nude in the woods sorta thing but meh …keep getting it going our way Hunter and you can do what you want…(in legal limits of course…)

 

[gringo2011]

Give them our second round (Adelaide’s pick) for both Tsatas and Hobbs, then it might be worth it. Depending on our recruiter’s view of their potential, what’s holding them back at bombers..

Hobbs is one position inside mid. Gets played outside of his best role or as a sub. He dominates at VFL level given his natural spot.

 

[Diehard Saint]

In fairness, we did play some very boring footy mid way through the year, and then some exciting footy in the last 4-5 weeks.

We were boring because the only way we could stay in a game was to lock it down. Our midfield injuries were huge - Crouch, Clark, Jones, Henry, Windy etc and Pou was not ready to be a midfielder.


Our exciting form kind of coincided with our injured players like Wood, Jones and Clark getting back and having a few weeks to get back into form and some good games from Pou on his return..

I don't think its rocket science.

 

[gringo2011]

I'd be reluctant given that we have Dow and Stocker in a similar situation.
We could hold onto dozens of other peoples failed drafts and get nowhere.

Both have talent. Scott is playing an older squad trying to get wins. They have been ignoring development for optics.

 

[gringo2011]

If you are going to target anyone from the 2022 draft, i'd go for Humphrey. Far superior proposition to Tsatas and Hobbs. Would cost more but there is an A grader in there that hasn't come out yet.

Didn’t he sign on long term?

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

We must have a ruckman lined up

Even if we don't, we could very easily get Campbell back on the list.

Odds are he will still be training with us over pre-season.

 

[gringo2011]

So Sam Edmund reporting Tomlinson maybe to Saints as UFA.
We would need to trade for him so if Battle leaves we don't lose the compo pick.

Maybe a late second or our old chestnut a future second should be more than the compo Melbourne would get andwe still get the Battle compo.

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We would be absolutely idiotic to pay a second round pick for him.

 

[gringo2011]

NGA kid who was in the Metro champs team and had a very good final.

People making definitive statements on a raw 18 y.o still learning the craft makes me laugh.


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Cole?

 

[Diehard Saint]

As much as we stuffed up with drafting McCartin, you can see where we were coming from a little bit.

Petracca is a massive flog. Albeit, very good at football.

He and Oliver are sinking the Dees.
The Petracca saga is going to go on for ages, maybe even get legal.
You could understand his angst at the club initially, but he’s coming across as pretty precious now.

Can just hear Richo now…the situation is “very disappointing”

 

[Atomboy]

You're only up to the Brad Crouch off season? Dude you won't believe who our head coach is in a couple of years.

Ffs, I am losing the plot.

Hopefully Josh Kelly has won a Brownlow for us by now.

 

[Leap of Faith]

Anyone paying a second for a bloke in his 30s with a history of injuries who has averaged about 10 games a year for the last 4 has lost their minds.

He and Oliver are sinking the Dees.
The Petracca saga is going to go on for ages, maybe even get legal.
You could understand his angst at the club initially, but he’s coming across as pretty precious now.

Can just hear Richo now…the situation is “very disappointing”

“G’day Demons fans…”. Oh god he was painful.

 

[Sainter88]

Ffs, I am losing the plot.

Hopefully Josh Kelly has won a Brownlow for us by now.

Wait till you find out we finally end up righting the wrong of not drafting Petracca but it’s for King and 2 first rounders and he’s on the park less than Hanners

 

[The_Steadier]

A balanced list will sharpen our focus

Hunter Clark operating in a phone box...he is elite...if he plays the whole year next year watch out...Hunter takes Crouch's spot.

I agree- he is like a slippery eel in the clinches.

The problem is that a footy oval is over 2000 square metres.

A phonebox is what- about 2 squares?

Crouch could run all day extracting the pill- hunter only being capable of playing half a game (and being gassed for large parts of that 50%)- means we are down half a bench rotation every week.


Over the course of a season- that's a LOT of extra running his midfield teammates need to do to cover him.
Especially in an endurance taxing gameplan like ross the boss plays.

To offset that- we need clark to be an absolute star, not a meat and potatoes extractor like crouch.

The eagles had a similar problem with nic nat- he couldn't play more than ~50% time on ground.
But they took that on the chin- because the star stuff he did in that 50%, made up for that extra ~30% he was sitting on the pine.

In summary- if clark is able to star in his 50% time on ground- that's fine.
But being a meat and potatoes extractor AND only 50% TOG... yeah nah- trade him and give his mid minutes to windy etc.

 

[MightySaint]

Didn’t he sign on long term?

You're right, signed through to 2028, must have must missed that.