USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[Maggie5]

You've always been a savage and vindictive woman...

I agree that character is relevant, and Don is a fiend of the lowest order, but I'm not comfortable in dismissing the worst of Harris as a strategic gambit.

Voting for someone in the hope or expectation that they'll come good later on seems fraught, especially if there is nothing in their current iteration which reassures you about the future.

Relevant, nah critically important to me.

Rapists, sexual predator and denigrates females.

Not even going into the the fact he is a convicted felon, pathological liar, fraudster and grifter. (might have left out a few.)

The lowest of the low. Harris for me by miles.

Anyway, carry on.

 

[OneGreatClub]

His mate Elon, probably dropped a large bet....
Just saying.

Exactly so

 

[carltonchelsea]

no he is not a trumper. Providing analysis and predicting a voting trend/ fearing a voting trend does not = support for trump
you are better than this

In reverse order, nah I’m not really better than this, by nature and nurture I’m a sceptical shit stirrer and antagonist!
I do however begrudgingly, like seeing pj’s somewhat limited evidential analysis of voting trends, I don’t do this at all, so any content pertaining to these trends are useful personally.
All evidence to me, would suggest he’d prefer another trump term=trumper!

 

[JB1975]

Relevant, nah critically important to me.

Rapists, sexual predator and denigrates females.

Not even going into the the fact he is a convicted felon, pathological liar, fraudster and grifter. (might have left out a few.)

The lowest of the low. Harris for me by miles.

Anyway, carry on.

For me, what a candidate might do when they're in office also comes into the equation.

 

[FireKrakouer]

I'm not a Black-American, no.

I think it's time for me to acknowledge that this should disqualify me from making any assessment of how Obama makes a pitch to Black-American men.

After all, it seems that there's a racial hive-mind which Barack is attuned to, one that isn't really disturbed by any other factors such as gender, socio-economics, human psychology etc.

I withdraw my comments.

You learned quickly how little folks here care for diversity of thought, nuance, intellectual curiosity n all that. Questioning the genius of Saint Barry is a definite no-no.

Head to the US Politics thread on the conspiracies board if you're after a more robust, high-brow discussion of the issues with the big dogs (admittedly bourbons stinks the place up a little, but asking him to leave at this point would just be impolite). The password to enter is "covfefe" - but you didn't hear that from me! Godspeed.

 

[campbell]

For me, what a candidate might do when they're in office also comes into the equation.

ooooo, so giving vital clinical equipment to Russia, when US citizens need it and are dying, is okay with you.

Disgraceful.

 

[JB1975]

ooooo, so giving vital clinical equipment to Russia, when US citizens need it and are dying, is okay with you.

Disgraceful.

I don't appreciate being swiped by Swift.

You might not have picked up on my ever-so-subtle subtext, but I'm not a supporter of Trump. He enjoys no advantage in character or policy intention.

 

[OneGreatClub]

They know they’re going to have to win by corruption and by force and an even bigger lie than the big lie

 

[OneGreatClub]

Lol

 

[EagleMan87]

You're forgetting LBJ's 'Great Society' programs in the 1960s, which managed to get up amidst a hostile Congress and the Vietnam War.

I know that the Democrats are more inclined to pay attention to poor folk, but there needs to be some acknowledgment that things have continued to shift in the wrong direction, and that many people have a right/reason to feel like their vote has been taken for granted.

Not acknowledging this (as well as not doing enough to correct the perception) has been instrumental in the creation of Trump.

That was an odd time US politics; when the Democrat and Republican voting blocks more or less switched places.

Don't disagree with the rest of your post. It's sadly been happening in Aus and the UK since the 80s as well.

 

[JB1975]

Mrs Harris is ethical and empathetic.

Palestinians aren't feeling it.

 

[10571z]

Harris campaign in free fall. A trump presidency looking likely

 

[OneGreatClub]

Harris campaign in free fall. A trump presidency looking likely

Thanks Elon

 

[10571z]

Thanks Elon

Polls/betting markets show the same.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Polls/betting markets show the same.

Again, thanks Elon Oh and probably a bit of input from Thiel.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[FireKrakouer]

Yikes, Dems in shambles rn. Condolences!!

 

[Maggie5]

For me, what a candidate might do when they're in office also comes into the equation.

Oh, you mean further enrich himself. Okay.

 

[JB1975]

Oh, you mean further enrich himself. Okay.

I don't disagree, Mags. I have nothing positive to say about the prospects of another term of Don.

 

[10571z]

Again, thanks Elon Oh and probably a bit of input from Thiel.

Time to roll out Obama. Last ditch effort

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Time to roll out Obama. Last ditch effort

Better than rolling out Kid Rock I guess

 

[happy_eagle]

RCP looking grim yet again, almost back to Biden/Trump era figures






Although from this map all it would take is two of Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina and Georgia to flip it back to Harris.

 

[pjcrows]

RCP looking grim yet again, almost back to Biden/Trump era figures

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Although from this map all it would take is Michigan and Pennsylvania to flip the election.

Not really. Trump led nationally by 3 and was up easily in these swing states.

This is very close. As close as it can get.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

RCP looking grim yet again, almost back to Biden/Trump era figures

Could go either way

Which is kinda ****ed