USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[CM86]

What problem are you referring to? Economic, social, environmental, whatever else that should probably be discussed in a more appropriate setting?

As a general observation, though, the consequences (positive or negative) of rapid population growth are the same as those of "natural" population growth. Those consequences merely happen more... well, rapidly.

I'd say it's pretty obvious from my post. But if you don't actually want to discuss it that's not a problem.
I made an assumption based on your long post. I was wrong. We can leave it there.

 

[EagleMan87]

Pete Davidson was right - he really can't read properly and deliver a punchline.

WTF is going on with make-up????

He looks so small

 

[OneGreatClub]

This is hilarious.

 

[Episode IV]

I'd say it's pretty obvious from my post. But if you don't actually want to discuss it that's not a problem.
I made an assumption based on your long post. I was wrong. We can leave it there.

Sure.

 

[Royces Hart]

Pete Davidson was right - he really can't read properly and deliver a punchline.

WTF is going on with make-up????

Let’s go Turkey Legs!

 

[OneGreatClub]

Where is the proof that more people of faith, will cop less jail time for rape, under Trump? If you’re going to (Onegreatclub) make that type of claim, back it up with facts.
All I’m seeing so far, are assumptions.

A Trump / Vance presidency aim is to bring in the 7 Mountain Mandate.
Christian Nationalst control over all realms of society including the government, schools, the courts.
Religion and religious ideology will reign supreme is the plan of Project 25.
As I am sure you would know the church has hidden and ignored rape within its walls for centuries.

If they have their way, religious zealots will be basically running society.
I guess an American version of the Taliban if you want to take it to extremes but of course hopefully it wouldn’t come to that, but maybe Taliban lite initially.

Right wing ideologues in government positions and the court. You can already see what a captured SCOTUS has achieved.

One part of the massive Project 25 document states a plan to return to the Trump administration’s Title IX sexual harassment and assault standards, which placed burdensome restrictions on the ability of survivors to report assault and obtain justice.

So….
a theocracy which controls the courts with right wing religious ideologues and deterioration of women’s and hence children’s rights along with the well documented history of church cover ups of rape and molestation creates the situation I describe.

You can see already what a right wing captured SCOTUS has achieved.
If you are still curious there is plenty of stuff out there you can look up.
Project 25
Dominionism
7 Mountains Mandate
Opus Dei
Lance Wallnau and the NAR
History of the Church’s management of pedophilia and rape within its walls.
Trump’s sexual assault cases and accusations.
And on and on…

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[OneGreatClub]

Quite the article and sure we will see a rerun in 3 weeks with the NAR recruiting the next round of election disrupters and denialists.

 

[Satan]

 

[FireKrakouer]

That Al Smith dinner speech was hilarious, real 2016 energy about it. Kamala's the first candidate in 40 years to not attend, but I'm not hating here, she made the right decision politically to not turn up and be humiliated.

My favourite joke was when "White Dude For Harris" came up and Trump said "I'm not worried about them, because their wives and their wives' lovers are all voting for me".

A close second was when he looked at Schumer and said "Chuck, with how woke the Democrats are now, perhaps you'll be the first female president?"

How about you guys, same?? List your favourite jokes here m8.

 

[10571z]

I'm not sure where to start with this utter rubbish.
Let's start with the trans issue. Do you actually know anyone who identifies as trans? Any dealing with any? Or is anything you see found on tv/social media? They aren't taking this path to get easy access to women and children. Are there bad people that use it as a way. No doubt. But those numbers would be extremely small. As many have pointed out there are plenty of straight white religious types that seem to get arrested for doing such things. Why no outcry there?

It's ridiculous to think that being aware of the privilege that white people and in particular white men have had over centuries is a negative thing. And yet when we acknowledge that privilege it gets termed white hate. What an absolute crock. (Im white, male in my 40s and quite happy to admit I've been lucky to be privileged. Even though I spent my early childhood in lower socio-economic areas, dealings with DHS, foster families, domestic violence, drugs and social housing. I consider myself a lot luckier than others who happened not to be white. Hell i even had the chance to have my own lawyer to argue my case that i shouldnt have been made ward of the state)
Is that why we have cowards in my area masking up and throwing the nazi salute around thinking it makes them tough?

Lastly, what the **** is so goddamn scary about a Welcome to Country. Does it actually hurt you? Are your sensitivities so fragile that some words welcoming you to country makes you suffer? Put yourself in the shoes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. I think their suffering gives them a right to make us reflect on what our nation has been responsible for and if that makes white people uncomfortable then good.

Woke is used as a device of fear for those who fear progress and change. Who wish for things to stay the same and keep the status quo. The same type of people that no doubt thought homosexuality should have remained against the law in state legislation around the country. Or that those that thought that those who weren't white shouldn't enter the country or even that the term of Terra Nullius was a perfectly reasonable argument. Or that wives were the property of men able to be used whenever they wanted. Like it was before the 1970s in the country.

So when I hear woke being used as an argument I automatically assume I'm hearing it from a white guy with fears he is no longer going to be privileged.
That isn't changing for a while. But it's about time the playing field is being levelled.

My reply was in response to a poster

“Why is it that you think many are choosing trump? Just interested to know.
Is it economics? Is it wokism (and if so which parts in particular)? Is it foreign policy? Is it support for religion? Something else?”

I replied to that citing some reasons.

These aren’t my personal opinions but these are the issues raised over and over.

Trump for example has said he’d stop Trans in female sports. That’s a popular opinion for many Americans

Bill Mahers viral clip dissing land acknowledgments… again is a view many Americans agree with.



You can rebut these and that’s great but this is the sort of stuff winning huge numbers of American votes.

 

[iBeng]

These 1889 pages of new evidence are fascinating. He tried to force the Arizona speaker of the house to reconvene their congress to decertify the election results

Rusty asked "well do you have evidence" and Trumps team said "No, but we have theories"

Literally he had a concept of some evidence.

THEY WROTE DOWN THEIR PLANS LOL

 

[Gough]

Election interference in Trump's eyes is people finding out things he's actually done.

 

[darrenmorgan]

These 1889 pages of new evidence are fascinating. He tried to force the Arizona speaker of the house to reconvene their congress to decertify the election results

Rusty asked "well do you have evidence" and Trumps team said "No, but we have theories"

Literally he had a concept of some evidence.

THEY WROTE DOWN THEIR PLANS LOL

If people actually read what went on during that time (and during his previous administration in general) there’s no way he’d still be so prominent in politics. Unfortunately the vast majority of Trump supporters either can’t read or don’t care to, which is just the way he wants it.

 

[GreyCrow]

THEY WROTE DOWN THEIR PLANS LOL

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[adogsfan5]

A Trump / Vance presidency aim is to bring in the 7 Mountain Mandate.
Christian Nationalst control over all realms of society including the government, schools, the courts.
Religion and religious ideology will reign supreme is the plan of Project 25.
As I am sure you would know the church has hidden and ignored rape within its walls for centuries.

If they have their way, religious zealots will be basically running society.
I guess an American version of the Taliban if you want to take it to extremes but of course hopefully it wouldn’t come to that, but maybe Taliban lite initially.

Right wing ideologues in government positions and the court. You can already see what a captured SCOTUS has achieved.

One part of the massive Project 25 document states a plan to return to the Trump administration’s Title IX sexual harassment and assault standards, which placed burdensome restrictions on the ability of survivors to report assault and obtain justice.

So….
a theocracy which controls the courts with right wing religious ideologues and deterioration of women’s and hence children’s rights along with the well documented history of church cover ups of rape and molestation creates the situation I describe.

You can see already what a right wing captured SCOTUS has achieved.
If you are still curious there is plenty of stuff out there you can look up.
Project 25
Dominionism
7 Mountains Mandate
Opus Dei
Lance Wallnau and the NAR
History of the Church’s management of pedophilia and rape within its walls.
Trump’s sexual assault cases and accusations.
And on and on…

I can’t fault the effort. It’s an A+ for effort of response here, thank you.

I’ve got some reading to do it seems.

It’s the Christianity / religious zealots taking over courts for me that I can’t get my head around.
How it’s possible for a president to come in and do that / how others would even get replaced.

But I guess time will tell. I personally don’t see him winning it, but if he does, I guess we can revisit this one.

 

[blackshadow]

Wokeism has played a huge part.

People are sick of having woke ideals shoved down their throat at every turn.

Which parts? Trans, White hate, Welcome to country to start..:

You’re absolutely full of shit.

Where is this welcome to country in the US?

 

[10571z]

You’re absolutely full of shit.

Where is this welcome to country in the US?

Apologies they do “Land Acknowledgments”

 

[Randomizor]

These 1889 pages of new evidence are fascinating. He tried to force the Arizona speaker of the house to reconvene their congress to decertify the election results

Rusty asked "well do you have evidence" and Trumps team said "No, but we have theories"

Literally he had a concept of some evidence.

THEY WROTE DOWN THEIR PLANS LOL

And after Rusty refused he got doxxed, death threats, swatted, and shunned by his fellow republicans.

 

[Satan]

And after Rusty refused he got doxxed, death threats, swatted, and shunned by his fellow republicans.

Him and the georgia secretary of state who wouldnt look for the 11000 odd votes trump demanded

Family of Georgia's secretary of state was still getting death threats months after election, report says

Georgia Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, his wife, Tricia, and their family received threats of violence months after the election that former President Donald Trump falsely claims was riddled with fraud, Tricia Raffensperger told Reuters in an exclusive interview.

amp.cnn.com

 

[MarcMaverick]

No one here worships Kamala. You think Don can do no wrong.

I disagree, mainly because she's not Trump/"orange man bad".

Don is a messy individual himself, but the Dems did themselves no favours by putting up another member of their Corporate Elite Half rather than a firebrand Progressive half.

 

[Satan]

Trump sitting on towel leakage?

 

[swingdog]

I disagree, mainly because she's not Trump/"orange man bad".

Don is a messy individual himself, but the Dems did themselves no favours by putting up another member of their Corporate Elite Half rather than a firebrand Progressive half.

Who would that have been?

 

[Randomizor]

Think we are all missing the biggest revelation from today.

“I love cows” said the former president in response to a question from a child. “I love cows. They are so beautiful. Some people say I love cows too much. Maybe they’re right, I don’t know. The cows don’t complain”

 

[GreyCrow]

Trump sitting on towel leakage?View attachment 2147262

Cant have shart stains over the white couch