USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[deck]

I thought the money was for charging stations built by end of this decade. Still another 6 years to go.

It's this.

Or are you saying the whole $5B has already been spent and only 7 charging stations have been built?

No that is not the case.

 

[Spearman]

I remember being on a airplane trip to Singapore from Manila anyway I sat next to an American women and we starting talking about our different countries and she was gobsmacked how much cheaper our medicine is, our high minimum wage, maternity leave and rare gun violence. Even how NDIS will help pay for your nursing home fees if you cannot afford it. She went from USA greatest nation on Earth to how to I become an Australian citizen.

Medical insurance in the States can be a horror show if you don't have someone else pay for it. So if your self-employed, jobless, etc. it can be prohibitive. I went back for a study course for a year. Thank god I didn't have any issues or it would have bankrupted me, even with a basic health plan for that year.
Taiwan has a universal health care system. As an employer I pay in for my people. Like any government system, there are loopholes, corruption, and other problems, but it works. Even my mom, who visited us before her passing with a tube in her kidney, got great, inexpensive, and prompt treatment for a complication while in a bum**** part of the country.
The US health care system is and will continue to be a complete disgrace.

 

[GreyCrow]

Then there's the treatment of different plls. Discussion about the Selzter poll in Iowa was that it was an outlier, because it was markedly different from what it recorded before, but then the New York Times rep noted that their own poll had seen a 4 point shift to Trump in Pennsylvania in the past few weeks, but for some reason that wasn't an outlier....

I posted before how I viewed the September figure and the movement away from Trump

ie Tax Relief in July had Trump at 11% then in September Trump by 7%

In a similar time period Selzer moved June 18% September 4% and Nov1 Harris in front

To me that indicated that there was at least some movement to suggest a shift was occurring

Nov. 2-3	435	LV	SoCal Strategies	On Point Politics, Red Eagle Politics	Harris	44%	52%	Trump		Trump	+8
Nov. 2-3	501	RV	SoCal Strategies	On Point Politics, Red Eagle Politics	Harris	43%	50%	Trump		Trump	+7
Nov. 2-3	800	LV	InsiderAdvantage		Harris	46%	52%	Trump		Trump	+7
Nov. 1-2	800	LV	Emerson College	RealClearDefense	Harris	45%	54%	Trump		Trump	+9
Oct. 28-31	808	LV	Selzer & Co.	The Des Moines Register, Mediacom	Harris	47%	44%	Trump	More	Harris	+3
Sept. 27-28	600	LV	Cygnal	Iowans for Tax Relief Foundation	Harris	45%	51%	Trump		Trump	+7
Sept. 8-11	656	LV	Selzer & Co.	The Des Moines Register, Mediacom	Harris	43%	47%	Trump	More	Trump	+4
July 8-9	600	LV	Cygnal	Iowans for Tax Relief Foundation	Biden	39%	51%	Trump		Trump	+12
June 9-14	632	LV	Selzer & Co.	The Des Moines Register, Mediacom	Biden	32%	50%	Trump	More	Trump	+18

 

[Spearman]

Where do we sell all of that to? Who then uses that to make things to on sell to the US? What happens if demand craters because they aren't selling into the US?

Come on mate, think, it should be that hard to work out.

If Trump gets in and tries to do any sort of large scale tariffs scheme, there will be a huge fire sale of exemptions to whoever can pay for them. All under the table like the pardons sale.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Lady GAGA is 38, married with a daughter.

Holy **** I'm old! I can still remember her first bursting on the scene.

 

[OneGreatClub]

He and Trump have said this

 

[smelly cat]

I thought the money was for charging stations built by end of this decade. Still another 6 years to go.

Or are you saying the whole $5B has already been spent and only 7 charging stations have been built?

The point I was trying to make was that throwing money at things does not correlate with achievement.

Saying that Space X's achievements are courtesy of democrat donations understates the generational talents of Musk.

Whether you agree with his politics or not, he would have succeeded with or without democrat aid.

Meanwhile, regarding the EV stations. They need to be making 50,000 per year to meet their deadline. They have all the money they need and the tech is established. Unlike Musk, they don't have to invent a thing. Just build.

You're right. They still have time to complete it. But considering the democrats have included EV vehicles as one of their current solutions to inflation, well, they better hurry the hell up.

 

[Millky95]

Who could forget this banger

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Had never even seen this bozo, nor interacted with him before i got that lol

95 posts, most on this board, unseen in 2 years

 

[OneGreatClub]

OK didn't Trump exempt Australia from tariffs form steel and aluminium. My point is our lives in Australia won't change much regardless who is president.

FFS

 

[OneGreatClub]

I remember being on a airplane trip to Singapore from Manila anyway I sat next to an American women and we starting talking about our different countries and she was gobsmacked how much cheaper our medicine is, our high minimum wage, maternity leave and rare gun violence. Even how NDIS will help pay for your nursing home fees if you cannot afford it. She went from USA greatest nation on Earth to how to I become an Australian citizen.

Which is why we don’t want shitty cookers like Carlson, Don jr, Kelly etc telling us that we need to be more like the US.

 

[Maggie5]

The point I was trying to make was that throwing money at things does not correlate with achievement.

Saying that Space X's achievements are courtesy of democrat donations understates the generational talents of Musk.

Whether you agree with his politics or not, he would have succeeded with or without democrat aid.

Meanwhile, regarding the EV stations. They need to be making 50,000 per year to meet their deadline. They have all the money they need and the tech is established. Unlike Musk, they don't have to invent a thing. Just build.

You're right. They still have time to complete it. But considering the democrats have included EV vehicles as one of their current solutions to inflation, well, they better hurry the hell up.

Not sure about the bold.

California certainly helped him out with clean air credits $$$ about $2.5 billion in 2009 as he was starting out.

Anyway, he will have to work on Trump given he is building a new manufacturing plant in Mexico.

Could hurt him if Trump increases tariffs.

 

[deck]

Family member who has visited USA a few times commented on the inability to find fruit and veg (things we take for granted in every Coles/ Aldi/ woolies) everything is prepackaged

This is something I read from Aussies who have traveled to the US all time. I find it quite hilarious as it can't be any further from the truth from my experience.

But yes for a tourist staying in a hotel without the amenities of your own kitchen the pre packaged stuff they sell a lot is handy for easy access to fruit & veg.

 

[Maggie5]

Medical insurance in the States can be a horror show if you don't have someone else pay for it. So if your self-employed, jobless, etc. it can be prohibitive. I went back for a study course for a year. Thank god I didn't have any issues or it would have bankrupted me, even with a basic health plan for that year.
Taiwan has a universal health care system. As an employer I pay in for my people. Like any government system, there are loopholes, corruption, and other problems, but it works. Even my mom, who visited us before her passing with a tube in her kidney, got great, inexpensive, and prompt treatment for a complication while in a bum**** part of the country.
The US health care system is and will continue to be a complete disgrace.

I was visiting family in the states in the 90's and was carving a leg of lamb (should cut away) anyway took the skin off the side of my thumb. A few stitches and cost me $75.00. Was shocked.

 

[smelly cat]

Not sure about the bold.

California certainly helped him out with clean air credits $$$ about $2.5 billion in 2009 as he was starting out.

Anyway, he will have to work on Trump given he is building a new manufacturing plant in Mexico.

Could hurt him if Trump increases tariffs.

I'm not disputing that the dems have given him money.

My point is that money alone does not correlate with outcome. Otherwise all our problems could be solved by throwing money at them.

If you feel this way, then we can just agree to disagree

 

[Cyber_punk]

Tucker doesn't believe one iota about all that supernatural demon shit. It's just good red meat for his dumb fu$k supporters.

Tucker is a survival of the fittest type guy to the end with a born to rule complex. I remember listening to part of a podcast interview with him years ago, it was more informal but he went on about 'Yeah I was fortunate, but you gotta keep saying the right things so the peasants don't come knocking on the castle door" or something to that affect.

Then of course you have Trump and Elon having a good belly laugh at union workers being fired just a couple of months ago

All the people simping for them think they are in on the joke, when in reality the joke is on them.

 

[GreyCrow]

All the people simping for them think they are in on the joke, when in reality the joke is on them.

It will be interesting - if Trump loses - what these people do

The shills the cucks the simps - do they turncoat once more or dig even deeper or (god forbid) shift the focus to Junior or Barron etc?

 

[MadMundy]

I've gone on every social media and blocked/muted any page discussing the election, it's too much with how often it comes up.

America is ****ed regardless, Trump and Harris are garbage individuals (to be fair all politicians are, you can't be a good person and a politician)

 

[swingdog]

I've gone on every social media and blocked/muted any page discussing the election, it's too much with how often it comes up.

America is ****ed regardless, Trump and Harris are garbage individuals (to be fair all politicians are, you can't be a good person and a politician)

And so you decided to come here because?

 

[MadMundy]

And so you decided to come here because?

Eh to watch the shit show, feel like at least here the debates will be funnier compared to Twitter/Reddit etc.

 

[Cyber_punk]

It will be interesting - if Trump loses - what these people do

The shills the cucks the simps - do they turncoat once more or dig even deeper or (god forbid) shift the focus to Junior or Barron etc?

I think that's why Tucker is ramping up the religious crap.

He's 55, in American politics that's basically a kid

Waiting to pounce once the old man is out of the way.

 

[GreyCrow]

I think that's why Tucker is ramping up the religious crap.

He's 55, in American politics that's basically a kid

Waiting to pounce once the old man is out of the way.

He was a front runner in the polls on here on '' who is next '' so you could be right

 

[james Dean]

I've gone on every social media and blocked/muted any page discussing the election, it's too much with how often it comes up.

America is ****ed regardless, Trump and Harris are garbage individuals (to be fair all politicians are, you can't be a good person and a politician)

I like using Reddit. It has become absolutely insufferable over the past few months.

 

[OneGreatClub]

I've gone on every social media and blocked/muted any page discussing the election, it's too much with how often it comes up.

America is ****ed regardless, Trump and Harris are garbage individuals (to be fair all politicians are, you can't be a good person and a politician)

One is absolute garbage, the most inappropriate candidate for POTUS in recent history. The other is….a woman.

 

[MadMundy]

I like using Reddit. It has become absolutely insufferable over the past few months.

Even on non-political subs now it's just all political garbage, r/pics is just "look at me I voted Harris give me validation please"

 

[MadMundy]

One is absolute garbage, the most inappropriate candidate for POTUS in recent history. The other is….a woman.

To be fair I think anyone who willingly goes into politics is a garbage human being, you have to be a special sort of evil to be a politician.

But I do agree, it's better for America to be ****ed under Harris than completely ****ed under Trump.