USA Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his role in the Trump government

[Achy Blakey Heart]

I know. Just didn't know what you were talking about.

I think his intent is personal gain.

Nothing more or less.

Isnt that every politicians intent?

 

[Chief]

Isnt that every politicians intent?

This thread is about RFK Jr who claims his intent is to "fix" the American health system.

His actions and proposals show this is not his intent.

 

[Chicken Treat]

He's back.

They're are coming out of the wilderness.

 

[Chief]

Just calm down lol

I remember the people hired to work in the last Trump administration had similar things to say. Like, they owed it to the country to reserve judgment until he had been in office for a while, so they would take the job(s) he offered.

How many regretted that?

 

[Royces Hart]

He's back.

They're are coming out of the wilderness.

Bad typo from the Daily Telegraph.

Cooker book.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

He seems to be against the excessively processed foods Americans largely eat, and for removing some of the food additives that are legal in the US but illegal in the EU. That sounds reasonable.

And he also wants to remove fluoride from water, proving he's an idiot.

 

[Satan]

Bird flu detected in raw milk sold in California, health officials say

California health officials warned the public to avoid drinking one batch of whole raw milk from Raw Farm, which has issued a voluntary recall.

www.nbcnews.com

Wow

 

[Chief]

 

[Jamolad]

Eating maccas to get the job

You just know he never even took a bite - all he is swallowing there is some pride, as he sells even more of his soul.

He really does smile with his eyes.

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Or at least usually does.

Very 'Hide-the-pain-Harold' like

 

[Jamolad]

I don't think anyone has issue with his thoughts that align with what us kids of the 70s and 80s heard from our mums - sunshine and exercise - but as said no one is suppressing that.

But his weird stuff is much weirder than the weirdest stuff us 70s/80s kids heard from our mums, like "let the dog lick it, it will heal faster" (waiting for him to announce this one soon).

 

[Satan]

Warning

 

[rank and file]

I don't think anyone has issue with his thoughts that align with what us kids of the 70s and 80s heard from our mums - sunshine and exercise - but as said no one is suppressing that.

But his weird stuff is much weirder than the weirdest stuff us 70s/80s kids heard from our mums, like "let the dog lick it, it will heal faster" (waiting for him to announce this one soon).

Dogs been annoyingly licking my foot.
Fretting if I've got cancer.
Take him down the beach tomorrow,should
be right.

 

[lizard man]

What does he think is wrong with fluoride?

 

[lizard man]

It’s a shame because while there’s a part of me that thinks he’s a man of the people there’s also another part of me that’s concerned about the fluoride stuff

 

[liz]

It’s a shame because while there’s a part of me that thinks he’s a man of the people there’s also another part of me that’s concerned about the fluoride stuff

The fluoride reservations are one of his positions where he has some support from elements of the credible scientific community. I haven’t bothered to evaluate the claims of each side of the debate, but I know the risks/rewards are somewhat contested.

The objections might be equivalent to the pronouncements we read from time to time that “food stuff X” is carcinogenic, based on injecting rats with high concentrations of such foodstuff and finding some develop tumours.

Here’s an article (from a hopefully credible source) that sets out the sides of the debate.

Is Fluoridated Drinking Water Safe? | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

Since the mid-1940s, compounds containing the mineral fluoride have been added to community water supplies throughout the U.S. to prevent tooth decay. Health concerns expressed by opponents have largely been dismissed until recently.

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Now, whether Kennedy should really be sticking his nose in, or should leave it to those qualified to interpret the research, is another matter.

 

[lizard man]

The fluoride reservations are one of his positions where he has some support from elements of the credible scientific community. I haven’t bothered to evaluate the claims of each side of the debate, but I know the risks/rewards are somewhat contested.

The objections might be equivalent to the pronouncements we read from time to time that “food stuff X” is carcinogenic, based on injecting rats with high concentrations of such foodstuff and finding some develop tumours.

Here’s an article (from a hopefully credible source) that sets out the sides of the debate.

Is Fluoridated Drinking Water Safe? | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

Since the mid-1940s, compounds containing the mineral fluoride have been added to community water supplies throughout the U.S. to prevent tooth decay. Health concerns expressed by opponents have largely been dismissed until recently.

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Now, whether Kennedy should really be sticking his nose in, or should leave it to those qualified to interpret the research, is another matter.

Ohh so there’s truth to rfk’s fluoride claim? I did not expect that …. Maybe I should investigate further?

 

[liz]

Ohh so there’s truth to rfk’s fluoride claim? I did not expect that …. Maybe I should investigate further?

Truth? Not qualified to conclude. But the article I linked to indicates it’s a debated topic.

Unlike his claims on vaccines, where the vast majority of the science points to the benefits far, far outweighing the risks (and zero credible support for the autism claim).

 

[RCAB]

What does he think is wrong with fluoride?

It's too sciency

 

[Chief]

objections might be equivalent to the pronouncements we read from time to time that “food stuff X” is carcinogenic, based on injecting rats with high concentrations of such foodstuff and finding some develop tumours.

They pretty much are.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

The fluoride reservations are one of his positions where he has some support from elements of the credible scientific community. I haven’t bothered to evaluate the claims of each side of the debate, but I know the risks/rewards are somewhat contested.

The objections might be equivalent to the pronouncements we read from time to time that “food stuff X” is carcinogenic, based on injecting rats with high concentrations of such foodstuff and finding some develop tumours.

Here’s an article (from a hopefully credible source) that sets out the sides of the debate.

Is Fluoridated Drinking Water Safe? | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

Since the mid-1940s, compounds containing the mineral fluoride have been added to community water supplies throughout the U.S. to prevent tooth decay. Health concerns expressed by opponents have largely been dismissed until recently.

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Now, whether Kennedy should really be sticking his nose in, or should leave it to those qualified to interpret the research, is another matter.

Good post and article. I know fluoride was added to water as it wasn't included in toothpaste. But now that it's in toothpaste, there probably isn't as big of a need to have it in water.

 

[liz]

They pretty much are.

I figured that was likely, but haven’t done the reading necessary to conclude that.

 

[Chadwiko]

This thread is about RFK Jr who claims his intent is to "fix" the American health system.

His actions and proposals show this is not his intent.

 

[lizard man]

Someone who grew up in a family of political royalty is "a man of the people"?

That’s what I’ve heard yes …. Weren’t the kennedy’s loved by the people? Like wasn’t he a very popular president?

 

[DickieKnee]

What does he think is wrong with fluoride?

There's a lot of countries don't add it to their water. Most of western Europe doesn't.

• Western Europe: 98% of the population in western Europe drinks non-fluoridated water, including Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, and Switzerland.
• Other countries: Norway, Scotland, and Sweden have also stopped fluoridating their water.
  • Former fluoridation countries: The Federal Republic of Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands, Czechoslovakia, the German Democratic Republic, the Soviet Union, and Finland all previously fluoridated their water, but stopped.

 

[IlovethePies]

RFK is a certifiable maniac who is opposed to vaccination and is an active proponent of conspiracy theories.

In 2023 he claimed that Jews and Chinese people are less susceptible to the virus which is the cause of the global pandemic, and that this may be the result of deliberate genetic engineering.

However, he cannot be dismissed as a fringe lunatic. He is giving expression to powerful trends within the US ruling elite, which is deliberately whipping up fascistic sentiments that have a long history in America—antisemitism, racism, anti-Chinese bigotry.

Kennedy, who has no medical degree, has used his immense wealth, fame and connections to spread the pernicious lie that vaccines cause virtually all developmental disorders and diseases.

He intervened in Samoa with his anti vaccine demagogy to agitate against vaccination for measles. He contributed significantly to the entirely preventable deaths of 83 Samoan children from measles.

This is what Dr. Alec Ekeroma, director general of Samoa’s Health Ministry, told the Washington Post :Kennedy “will be directly responsible for killing thousands of children around the world by allowing preventable infectious diseases to run rampant.”

His intention and his assigned role in the Trump administration is to repudiate all public health measures that are any barrier to profit.

Trump's appointment of Bhattacharya to the head of the National Institute of Health complements the appointment of RKF. Bhattacharya was one of the leading advocats of "herd immunity" policy (articulated in the Great Barrington Declaration) which declared that COVID should be allowed to run rampant without any public health restrictions.

These appointments, of anti-science quacks and sociopaths signal that the intention of the trump administration is to totally eviscerate public health in the US and its connection to scientific knowledge.