USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[Swan4Life]

MAGA is white nationalist and misogynistic. It is explicitly angry white male. It is identity politics.


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That's what you want to believe.

It's a broad church where a person's wealth and status are irrelevant. Where the elites do not call the shots. Where the bureaucrats have less influence on the lives of the working class.

Now if you have a problem with whites and/or males then that is a separate issue which just proves that progressives are not immunized from being sexist and racist - the very thing they claim to find detestable.

 

[Satan]

I’ve got a 13 year old daughter, her and her girlfriends are already living in and realising the MAGA bullshit from 13/14 year old boys at school.
FACT.

The likes of Andrew tate have a lot to answer for

 

[Satan]

Where the elites do not call the shots.

Elon and Peter thiel say hi

Billionaire Elon Musk joined President-elect Donald Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Wednesday, multiple sources with direct knowledge of the call told ABC News.

 

[JB1975]

That's what you want to believe.

It's a broad church where a person's wealth and status are irrelevant. Where the elites do not call the shots. Where the bureaucrats have less influence on the lives of the working class.

Now if you have a problem with whites and/or males then that is a separate issue which just proves that progressives are not immunized from being sexist and racist - the very thing they claim to find detestable.

The rabid misogynists, hateful evangelicals white nationalists all coalesce around MAGA.

Odd coincidence.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Okay then.

FireKrakouer, you have 24 hours to demonstrate that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump. A failure to do so will see you receive a serious infraction for misinformation.

You have been warned.

Lol. In what way is me saying "as some argue may have occurred" a statement of definitive fact? Trump had his chance to provide concrete evidence in court and he couldn't. Infract away but we both know it's a case of playing the man and not the ball here.

 

[Gethelred]

Lol. In what way is me saying "as some argue may have occurred" a statement of definitive fact? Trump had his chance to provide concrete evidence in court and he couldn't. Infract away but we both know it's a case of playing the man and not the ball here.

You have repeatedly drawn reference to the 2020 election having been stolen. Put your money where your mouth is.

You have 22 hours to demonstrate your claim.

 

[Blue1980]

I’ve got a 13 year old daughter, her and her girlfriends are already living in and realising the MAGA bullshit from 13/14 year old boys at school.
FACT.

Yeah I had a friend whose son has gone down the Andrew Tate pipeline who is like 14.

 

[Blue1980]

Lol. In what way is me saying "as some argue may have occurred" a statement of definitive fact? Trump had his chance to provide concrete evidence in court and he couldn't. Infract away but we both know it's a case of playing the man and not the ball here.

 

[carltonchelsea]

Yeah I had a friend whose son has gone down the Andrew Tate pipeline who is like 14.

Yeah, my boy, he’s 19 now, he did that thing 3/4 years ago, so I made him do one of those political tests you get online, turned out he was further left than I was, it gave him great cause for reassessment!

 

[carltonchelsea]

The likes of Andrew tate have a lot to answer for

See my post to Blue1980 above^

 

[stefcep]

No, that talks about an increase in economic activity in certain parts of the US.

Yeah the Republican ones which also have low taxes, less business regulations and costs and stronger law and order policies.

It makes no mention (let alone analysis) of the policy prescription you mentioned. Instead, it suggests that the pandemic might have been the impetus.

What I'm after is cause and effect.

The article says it began during the pandemic but is ongoing years after.

I don't have access to the full article now but I may look at it later.

 

[Chief]

Yeah the Republican ones which also have low taxes, less business regulations and costs and stronger law and order policies.

Higher crime rates. Higher poverty. Higher infant death rates. Lower literacy levels. The list goes on.

 

[stefcep]

There were will be many vacancies when 20 million get deported . How many get taken up by Americans is another issue .

Will Donald Trump deport 20 million illegal immigrants if re-elected? Know about his plans in detail - The Economic Times

Donald Trump has said that the US will not bring in anyone from Gaza, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, or anywhere else that threatens the security of the country. He plans to round up, detain and deport millions of illegal immigrants.

m.economictimes.com

Republicans are hedging their bets now

Rep. Maria Salazar on why Trump's message resonated with so many Hispanic voters

Donald Trump made important and surprising inroads with key groups he needed to get to win the election. Chief among them, Hispanic voters. Rep. Maria Salazar is a Republican from Florida and joined Amna Nawaz to discuss Trump's agenda.

www.pbs.org

Trump is only going after the criminals
There are 200000 undocumented migrants in her area . Not all of them are criminals How many people are going to be caught up in the net

He will not deport 20 million.

 

[stefcep]

Higher crime rates. Higher poverty. Higher infant death rates. Lower literacy levels. The list goes on.

And yet California has the most violent and property crime, the Republican States' economic growth outpaces Blue states, and their share of GDP is now higher than many of the hitherto Democrat economic powerhouse states.

 

[hawkinoz]

Elon and Peter thiel say hi

Billionaire Elon Musk joined President-elect Donald Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Wednesday, multiple sources with direct knowledge of the call told ABC News.

2 of the more worthy ones to have a say, I wish the Queen JKR could too but at least she can influence like this

 

[carltonchelsea]

3 days, Russia and Ukraine ain’t over til it’s over, so many tears we’ve cried….

 

[JB1975]

Yeah the Republican ones which also have low taxes, less business regulations and costs and stronger law and order policies.



The article says it began during the pandemic but is ongoing years after.

I don't have access to the full article now but I may look at it later.

I'll wait for actual evidence.

 

[Royces Hart]

the Republican States' economic growth outpaces Blue states, and their share of GDP is now higher than many of the hitherto Democrat economic powerhouse states.

Biden must be a genius. I was told these people voted against the Dems because they screwed their economies.

 

[Chief]

2 of the more worthy ones to have a say, I wish the Queen JKR could too but at least she can influence like this

Thiel and Elon? Those guys would sell your organs for a more efficient use of capital if you gave them a chance.

Jo would have the cops watching your kids for signs of aberrant behaviour.

 

[Blue1980]

2 of the more worthy ones to have a say, I wish the Queen JKR could too but at least she can influence like this

The trans stuff is irrelevant, that stuff doesn’t move the needle in any which way unless you are terminally online.

Regular people care about affordability being able to put food on the table etc.

The trans stuff is a complete nothing burger.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

That's what you want to believe.

It's a broad church where a person's wealth and status are irrelevant. Where the elites do not call the shots. Where the bureaucrats have less influence on the lives of the working class.

Now if you have a problem with whites and/or males then that is a separate issue which just proves that progressives are not immunized from being sexist and racist - the very thing they claim to find detestable.

lol the cult leader is a billionaire and the other leader is a halfwit billionaire.

It is an identitarian movement of angry white males, who are happy to ignore their guy is a rapist and pedophile.


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[Dogs_R_Us]

I really can't see Australians voting for 3 time adulterer, sexual predator, felon, habitual liar, multiple time failed businesses, stealing from his own charity or ripping students off.

Maybe not but they might vote for someone who dials down leftist, socialist sentiments, winds back the judgmental oppression and discrimination of critical race theory, intersectionalism, diversity, equity and inclusion, identity, climate and victim politics, and cancel culture. Which is what people seem to want over there. Sadly, I'm not sure we have anyone that strong here.

 

[Chief]

The trans stuff is irrelevant, that stuff doesn’t move the needle in any which way unless you are terminally online.

Trans people don't just exist online.

Regular people care about affordability being able to put food on the table etc.

I think they can be compassionate about other people AND think of themselves.

The trans stuff is a complete nothing burger.

 

[sherb]

This bloke sets it out well.

 

[Blue1980]

Trans people don't just exist online.


I think they can be compassionate about other people AND think of themselves.

I think it’s more the trans panic is perpetuated by people who have most likely never met a trans person or associated with a trans person in their lives.