USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[Blue1980]

Maybe not but they might vote for someone who dials down leftist, socialist sentiments, winds back the judgmental oppression and discrimination of critical race theory, intersectionalism, diversity, equity and inclusion, identity, climate and victim politics, and cancel culture. Which is what people seem to want over there. Sadly, I'm not sure we have anyone that strong here.

It just sounds like you want them to be conservatives re the Dems that is.

What polices would they even run on in this case? We are the same as MAGA but like elections?

I think they need to go further left and progressive, in terms of economic policy. Get a plain speaking economic message out there, that is the key.

 

[stefcep]

Biden must be a genius. I was told these people voted against the Dems because they screwed their economies.

Well its State not Federal policy that has many people and businesses leaving Democrat run states for Republican ones

 

[stefcep]

2 of the more worthy ones to have a say, I wish the Queen JKR could too but at least she can influence like this

How can anyone reasonably argue with any of that?

 

[Blue1980]

How can anyone reasonably argue with any of that?

It's not a factor into people worried about affordability and cost of living expenses going up. Its a culture war issue perpetuated by the online right.

I don't think 12 million less people voted for the dems than last time because of "gender ideology", or 3 less million republicans than last time did the same.

 

[hawkinoz]

The trans stuff is irrelevant, that stuff doesn’t move the needle in any which way unless you are terminally online.

Regular people care about affordability being able to put food on the table etc.

The trans stuff is a complete nothing burger.

Ok then

 

[hawkinoz]

Thiel and Elon? Those guys would sell your organs for a more efficient use of capital if you gave them a chance.

Jo would have the cops watching your kids for signs of aberrant behaviour.

Aah right, another gaslighting

 

[Chief]

Aah right, another gaslighting

So:

Who are these people in the video?
What is this story about Elon getting annoyed at someone shorting his overvalued company? Where did they hear it? Is it true?
Why is Bill Gates opinion of Tesla relevant here? Why is Bill Gates the yardstick?
Are Teslas the pinnacle of environmental protection? Mass transit seems a better, cheaper bet, doesn't it?
If you consider Elon a purist, why has he been trying to make Twitter turn a profit? Isn't he in it for free speech?
The list goes on.

 

[Blue1980]

Ok then

They tried the same stuff in the 2022 midterms with anti-trans stuff, did nothing. The difference now Trump is on the ballot. He is the celebrity who gets them out to vote, they like the show, the entertainment, the promise to burn the whole system down.

Claiming this as some sort of ideological shift is absurd. Right wing parties will win and lose elections in future, and people will claim that its all because of the culture wars to make the feel the people who brought into it feel better about themselves.

 

[Chief]

Hopefully not Canada Dry.

Yeah, save some for the rest of the Canucks!

 

[hawkinoz]

They tried the same stuff in the 2022 midterms with anti-trans stuff, did nothing. The difference now Trump is on the ballot. He is the celebrity who gets them out to vote, they like the show, the entertainment, the promise to burn the whole system down.

Claiming this as some sort of ideological shift is absurd. Right wing parties will win and lose elections in future, and people will claim that its all because of the culture wars to make the feel the people who brought into it feel better about themselves.

I have no problems if you guys continue to sleep just like this Dem Loyalist who thing 1% actions don't affect the lives of 50% of population and woman's rights are at stake.



but also I am aware that you guys are scared that people( Academics, pollies, media, celebs etc) in Australia will learn the lessons and stop the madness here. My kids are older but if they were younger, I would be moving states. Such is the risk for families with this issue.

It is a somethingBurger. I posted few posts up the ad campaign in last days which mobilised people to get out and vote.

 

[Moonwatcher]

A quick video on apparent differences in number of voters between 2020 and 2024 elections.

 

[Blue1980]

I have no problems if you guys continue to sleep but also I am aware that you guys are scared people in Australia will learn the lessons and stop the madness here. My kids are older but if they were younger, I would be moving states. Such is the risk for families with this issue.

It is a somethingBurger as I posted the ad campaign in last days which mobilised people to get out and vote.

Probably not the talk for this thread, but appears you don't think trans people are real and have "done your own research" to try and get to the conculusion you want.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Republican ads signed off with “Kamala’s for they/them; Trump is for you”. Looks like it might have resonated.

 

[hawkinoz]

Probably not the talk for this thread, but appears you don't think trans people are real and have "done your own research" to try and get to the conculusion you want.

real or not, actions taken under that issue affects 50%(female) of population directly and the rest(male) indirectly. So you trying to sweep it as nothingburger is useless. I have updated my post above with a Dem loyalist showing her ignorance

Australia has ignored CASS review but won't be able to much longer. Once Trump actions roll out, reactions will follow. They have already started flowing. People who have colluded till now and desperately working over time to cover their backs.

Luckily we have tools to uncover it all.



PS : POST Updated

 

[Blue1980]

real or not, actions taken under that issue affects 50% of population directly and the rest indirectly. So you trying to sweep it as nothingburger is useless. I have updated my post above with a Dem loyalist showing her ignorance

Australia has ignored CASS review but won't be able to much longer. Once Trump actions roll out, reactions will follow. They have already started flowing. People who have colluded till now and desperately working over time to cover their backs.

Luckily we have tools to uncover it all.

50% of the population directly? Who are these 50%?

 

[Randomizor]

Serious question for the Trumpers in here:

How does the existence of trans people affect your day to day lives?

 

[_Cerberus_]

The likes of Andrew tate have a lot to answer for

This is the type of stuff Tate, Musk, Proud Boys, Aus Fascists, Nick Fuentes and ultra MAGA/far right types worship. If anyone here likes these guys, then you endorse this sort of commentary. Australian teachers came out a year or two ago, and said that they were on the end of some disgusting comments by male students who worship Tate.

 

[Blue1980]

Serious question for the Trumpers in here:

How does the existence of trans people affect your day to day lives?

It’s imagined.

They are also trying to retrofit their fear of trans people onto the election result so they feel vindicated.

Just as those of us more left leaning do, the online right need to realise most people in day to day life don’t know any of this shit they’re spouting.

The count has been updated to show Trump has got slightly more votes than last time and the Dems about 10 million down. So these 10 million in their minds can be attributed as being because of “gender ideology”.

It’s becoming a bit revelatory in recent days since Trumps win, some real mask off takes happening.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

They tried the same stuff in the 2022 midterms with anti-trans stuff, did nothing. The difference now Trump is on the ballot. He is the celebrity who gets them out to vote, they like the show, the entertainment, the promise to burn the whole system down.

Claiming this as some sort of ideological shift is absurd. Right wing parties will win and lose elections in future, and people will claim that its all because of the culture wars to make the feel the people who brought into it feel better about themselves.

If “the system” is that good, who would want to burn it down? You’re implying that Trump voters are the uneducated, who are taken in by bright colours and mindless entertainment. In other words, deplorables.

Allow yourself to consider if it just might be something else.

 

[Randomizor]

It’s imagined.

They are also trying to retrofit their fear of trans people onto the election result so they feel vindicated.

Just as those of us more left leaning do, the online right need to realise most people in day to day life don’t know any of this shit they’re spouting.

The count has been updated to show Trump has got slightly more votes than last time and the Dems about 10 million down. So these 10 million in their minds can be attributed as being because of “gender ideology”.

It’s becoming a bit revelatory in recent days since Trumps win, some real mask off takes happening.

It’s very baffling to me. I can’t imagine spending the energy to hate other people so much. It has to be some sort of insecurity right? These people hate themselves so they project onto others?

 

[hawkinoz]

Serious question for the Trumpers in here:

How does the existence of trans people affect your day to day lives?

Too late, we were banned & silenced when we tried to educate you guys. Its action time now. Left only listens to action, not words.

We don't care about persuading you guys, that time is gone.

 

[Blue1980]

If “the system” is that good, who would want to burn it down? You’re implying that Trump voters are the uneducated, who are taken in by bright colours and mindless entertainment. In other words, deplorables.

Allow yourself to consider if it just might be something else.

I never said the system was good. People in general would rather throw a hand granade at it than get more status quo, or by their voting patterns, don't give a shit and happy not vote.

100% that is on the dems for being establishment hacks thinking CNN/MSNBC orthodoxy is the way to go.

Dems either need to be disolved, or taken over by a MAGA style movement of progressives by a Bernie type.

 

[Financialpanther]

Too late, we were banned & silenced when we tried to educate you guys. Its action time now. Left only listens to action, not words.

We don't care about persuading you guys, that time is gone.



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I read this confusing stuff as a “call to action” - was that the intent, and if so, what action are you seeking?

Genuinely confused

 

[Randomizor]

Too late, we were banned & silenced when we tried to educate you guys. Its action time now. Left only listens to action, not words.

We don't care about persuading you guys, that time is gone.



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So it doesn’t affect your day to day life at all, in simpler words?

I’m really sorry but I don’t count memes as relevant sources, but what I would give to be a teenager like you again. Enjoy your youth while it lasts!

 

[Blue1980]

Too late, we were banned & silenced when we tried to educate you guys. Its action time now. Left only listens to action, not words.

We don't care about persuading you guys, that time is gone.



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So when the non further right party don't win an election, this proves the opposite?

People vote to say **** you and not thank you, and people were pissed off at cost of living.

In 2020 people were pissed off at COVID.

Neither had anything to do with the "woke mob" winning or losing.

Majority of people vote on their economic situation most of the time, many don't even understand the left v right paradigm, and they decide elections.