USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

The debate is going to be meaningless - they are all just soundbyte farms for each side to use against one another. The attention span of the swinging voter is shorter and shorter (and each side is rusted on in their support). This is but a spectacle rather than substance.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Chicago1]

That's funny. Don't remember it.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Of course

25 Lies Kamala Harris Told In Her Debate Against Trump

Here are 25 of the biggest falsehoods Kamala Harris told during her Tuesday night debate with Donald Trump.

thefederalist.com

SNAFU.

Hahahahah.

1. ‘Middle-Class Kid’
Harris claimed that she grew up a “middle-class kid.” That is not true. As previously noted by journalist Megyn Kelly, Harris’ father was a professor at Stanford University, while her mother was a biomedical scientist at UC Berkley.

Yeah i think that a professor and scientist are reasonably middle class compared to a trust fund baby

2. Trump’s Tax Cuts
Harris falsely insinuated that the 2017 tax cuts approved by the Trump administration disproportionately benefited America’s billionaires and corporations.

That is not true. Data produced by the IRS has shown that “on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent,” according to Justin Haskins, writing in The Hill.

Lol. Yeah he gave a stack of money to billionaires. This isn't controversial. They are trying to use a closely defined % reduction rather than total amount

The 2017 Trump Tax Law Was Skewed to the Rich, Expensive, and Failed to Deliver on Its Promises | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Policymakers and the public should understand that the 2017 Trump tax law was skewed to the rich, was expensive and eroded the U.S. revenue base, and failed to deliver promised economic benefits. A 2025 course correction is needed.

www.cbpp.org

• Was skewed to the rich. Households with incomes in the top 1 percent will receive an average tax cut of more than $60,000 in 2025, compared to an average tax cut of less than $500 for households in the bottom 60 percent, according to the Tax Policy Center (TPC).[1] As a share of after-tax income, tax cuts at the top — for both households in the top 1 percent and the top 5 percent — are more than triple the total value of the tax cuts received for people with incomes in the bottom 60 percent.[2]

3. Trump ‘Sales Tax’
Harris claimed Trump will implement a “sales tax.” Trump has not pledged to do such a thing if elected president.

Pretty clear that tariffs across the board are an increase of cost and are form sales tax.

4. Jan. 6
Harris contended that the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol was the “worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.”

Contrary to Harris’ claim, the J6 events did not put American self-governance in jeopardy, nor did it expose Americans to risks like those experienced during World War I, the Japanese attacks on Pearl Harbor, or World War II, to name a few.

Again, clear that she was saying worst attack on democracy, WW1 and WW2 never threatened the homeland or their form of government. J6 did.

5. Project 2025
Harris claimed Trump will implement Project 2025 if elected. Trump has repeatedly said he has nothing to do with Project 2025.

Everyone knows that Project 2025 is on the cards if he wins. He's saying no now because it's toxic but he and the party support everything in there.

That's just the first 5 listed. Nothing remotely like immigrants eating dogs, abortion of babies after born, rubbish that he was saying.

 

[bourbons]

Fully here for the MTG v loomer beef


Would pay good $ to watch marj turn loomer into a pretzel

Glorious innit

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

He lost the debate and his supporters are more unhinged than ever.

There's only one Party dumb enough to commit such a rookie error and it ain't the Democrats.............................

 

[Aussie in exile]

More bad news for Diaper Don to go wuth all the other bad news. Happy days.

MSN

 

[iBeng]

Look, the Liberals have Taylor Swift, fine, but the Conservatives have Lara Trump and she sings like a...

Like a...

Look, she kinda sings.

 

[Present Not Past]

So Trump wins the election in 2024 and after his inauguration in 2025, the first question he's asked is:
"So, Mr President, do you still not know anything about Project 2025"?
Trump's response is of course "Sorry America, I lied".
Who'd of thought?

 

[bourbons]

He lost the debate and his supporters are more unhinged than ever.

They were set up by their echo chamber to believe Harris is dumb, can't from coherent sentences, can't do anything without a teleprompter etc.

So when they see her perform like she did you can understand it coming as a bit of a shock.

 

[Forward Press]

Look, the Liberals have Taylor Swift, fine, but the Conservatives have Lara Trump and she sings like a...

Like a...

Look, she kinda sings.

The Republicans have the musical stylings of Kid Rock and acting talent of Kevin Sorbo.

 

[bourbons]

Hahahahah.



Yeah i think that a professor and scientist are reasonably middle class compared to a trust fund baby


Lol. Yeah he gave a stack of money to billionaires. This isn't controversial. They are trying to use a closely defined % reduction rather than total amount

The 2017 Trump Tax Law Was Skewed to the Rich, Expensive, and Failed to Deliver on Its Promises | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Policymakers and the public should understand that the 2017 Trump tax law was skewed to the rich, was expensive and eroded the U.S. revenue base, and failed to deliver promised economic benefits. A 2025 course correction is needed.

www.cbpp.org

Pretty clear that tariffs across the board are an increase of cost and are form sales tax.



Again, clear that she was saying worst attack on democracy, WW1 and WW2 never threatened the homeland or their form of government. J6 did.



Everyone knows that Project 2025 is on the cards if he wins. He's saying no now because it's toxic but he and the party support everything in there.

That's just the first 5 listed. Nothing remotely like immigrants eating dogs, abortion of babies after born, rubbish that he was saying.

As always, if false equivalence was a sport MAGA enthusiasts would be Olympic standard

 

[Hank Scorpion]

Thanks Joe, thanks Kamala

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While we're at it, Donnie was insistent that crime was falling everywhere else in the world. And we must be emptying HM Barwon and flying them all into Ohio or something.

Thanks Joe!

 

[TheSunGod]

I put together curated playlists that include kids music and songs they request interspersed among a solid grounding of classic music that spans genres and time.

It’s great when my three year old hears the opening notes to something like Paint It Black or Red Right Hand and he calls out which song it is.

Good stuff Might I also suggest adding a healthy dose of Bob Marley to the mix.
Wherever I’ve traveled around the world, people may not have heard of The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Pink Floyd or Nick Cave, but everyone knows Bob and his songs of freedom. There’s a good reason for that.

 

[NSWCROW]

Look, the Liberals have Taylor Swift, fine, but the Conservatives have Lara Trump and she sings like a...

Like a...

Look, she kinda sings.

To quote the Rock 'n Roll Detective Ford Fairlaine -
" I've heard cats **** with more harmony ! "

 

[Crankyhawk]

You can postal vote. Still there's a bit of process to get a ballot paper and vote postal.

And a fear that some partisan election official will destroy or otherwise invalidate your vote

 

[FireKrakouer]

I must say that as an undecided voter endorser, this very genuine and real video has had some sway on me. It surely gets him a lil support from the cat-lady demographic? IIRC he did sign a bill in 2019 that made animal cruelty a federal felony.

 

[Randomizor]

Unfortunately for me the debate did make one thing clear: Harris is a Marxist.

She publicly owned Trump

 

[blackshadow]

The Republicans have the musical stylings of Kid Rock and acting talent of Kevin Sorbo.

Godammit I’ll take The Nuge on lead guitar though.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Bob Carr popping into my feed from who knows where with some truth.

 

[Forward Press]

Unfortunately for me the debate did make one thing clear: Harris is a Marxist.

She publicly owned Trump

 

[BigTacoBandit]

Remind me what earrings was Kamala wearing.

They almost look identical to the NovaH1 audio earbuds.

So Kamala needed the tag team 3 v 1 with moderators to debate Trump but also potentially being fed a script of how to debate Trump. It’s why I say potentially, there’s no true way of us knowing.

I wonder why she won’t debate him on X or Fox. Hmmm. She knows without the extra help, she will perform worse then Joe

I heard Trump had a hidden speaker in his neck pussy and that's what we were hearing.

There's no true way of knowing though...

 

[Crankyhawk]

Ooh a new bot!

Different type of bot, its one who fancies themselves as a guru on drafts and trading board which is a change

 

[happy_eagle]

 

[JackFlash]

No one has answered the question as to what her economic policy is? What is her foreign affairs policy? What will she do about Ukraine and Russia? The Israel in Gaza problem? China? Homelessness? The Drug problem? Illegal Immigration? Law and Order and general civil justice priorities? She was well trained in the debate but gave no real answers to any of these issues. She's not fooling anybody, but i suspect those who just hate Trump just don't care?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Kamala doesn’t lie, she tells the truth every time. She’s a rolemodel citizen.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on Projecf 2025, which Trump disavowed.

Didn’t see the moderators fact check her on falsely insinuating that the 2017 tax cuts approved by the Trump administration disproportionately benefited America’s billionaires and corporations. Data produced by the IRS has shown that “on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent.

Trump, Harris told Americans on Tuesday night, will sign a national abortion ban and hire a national “abortion … monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages” if he is elected. That’s beyond a lie.

What about Kamala’s flip flop stance on fracking.

Where are the ABC fact checkers. Rules for Trump but not thee

The flaw with the IRS data is that it is comparing a percentage of income benefit rather than the raw dollars
So while it says "a person on a income of $50k had a tax cut of 16-26% that works out to $8k to 13K per year
and the person on "more than $500k had a tax cut of 9 percent - which is $45k

the person on > 500k has received 3-6 times the benefit of the person on 50k
therefore the person on $500k has benefited more

 

[faible]

No one has answered the question as to what her economic policy is? What is her foreign affairs policy? What will she do about Ukraine and Russia? The Israel in Gaza problem? China? Homelessness? The Drug problem? Illegal Immigration? Law and Order and general civil justice priorities? She was well trained in the debate but gave no real answers to any of these issues. She's not fooling anybody, but i suspect those who just hate Trump just don't care?

Trump literally hasn't provided any detail on any of those things, yet you seem fine with it.