List Mgmt. 2024 Young Talent Time (Drafting)

[Snuffaluphagus]

 

[anchor man]

Heard an interview with Malakai Champion this afternoon and he was asked to pick 3 from WA that he thought might be drafted this year, and he went for Bo Allan, Kayle Gerryn and Luke Urquhart. So he probably chucked up 3 names from a question he wasn't prepared for, but it does make me wonder how many WA players might get picked up in this draft.

Without making this question seem like a "draft WA kids" post, out of the 75 or so players that get added to AFL lists this year (including rookies/train on players, but not recycled AFL players) what numbers do draft watchers expect will be from WA:

5 or less
5-10,
more than 10

Wasn't the list that went to the draft camp supposedly the worst ever group by some experts?
Not sure many will go based on that assessment.

 

[Mogumber]

The journo that got hit by the truck, Sam Landsberger stated that in a story at the start of the year.
WA came 3rd in the Nationals, and really were close to beating Vic Country at Claremont Oval.
Think it was hyperbole on the journo's part (RIP) myself

 

[Alfonz]

Wasn't the list that went to the draft camp supposedly the worst ever group by some experts?
Not sure many will go based on that assessment.

Which experts? The Vic centric ones? Not saying the WA talent pool is amazing, but they performed reasonably well against supposedly much superior teams in the Allies, Vic C and Vic M. And thrashed SA. I don't think the WA crop is too bad and think there is decent value in the late/rookie chances like Boxshall (he may go a bit earlier), Hayes, Angove, Artemis, Dennis, Urquhart.

There might also be an element that next year's WA crop is supposed to have more high end talent, so this year's crop is marked a bit harshly in comparison.

 

[anchor man]

Which experts? The Vic centric ones? Not saying the WA talent pool is amazing, but they performed reasonably well against supposedly much superior teams in the Allies, Vic C and Vic M. And thrashed SA. I don't think the WA crop is too bad and think there is decent value in the late/rookie chances like Boxshall (he may go a bit earlier), Hayes, Angove, Artemis, Dennis, Urquhart.

There might also be an element that next year's WA crop is supposed to have more high end talent, so this year's crop is marked a bit harshly in comparison.

I saw where Bo Allen was angry about how the pool was assessed by the experts, and yes probably from Melbourne.
But people like Sheehan are generally pretty spot on with assessments of our talent.
I have not heard what his thoughts are.

 

[bone2468]

If Berry is gone by our pick I’m starting to get a good feeling about Cooper Hynes watching his highlights looks like he could be a gem

 

[Taylor]

If Berry is gone by our pick I’m starting to get a good feeling about Cooper Hynes watching his highlights looks like he could be a gem

Looks quite a competitor, clean hands and a strong body. The sort of later first/early second round pick that knuckles down on his running work and suddenly turns into Jordan DeGoey

 

[bone2468]

Looks quite a competitor, clean hands and a strong body. The sort of later first/early second round pick that knuckles down on his running work and suddenly turns into Jordan DeGoey

Ranked in top 20 in twomey rankings

 

[_007_]

18 years old and still trying to kick his first drop punt.

 

[theGav56]

Liked your post for sharing, don’t like their order, miss all of Berry, Travaglia and Lindsay.

Nah, that's good. We'll get an amazing player we rated much higher and couldn't believe he was still available.

 

[Docker82]

I saw where Bo Allen was angry about how the pool was assessed by the experts, and yes probably from Melbourne.
But people like Sheehan are generally pretty spot on with assessments of our talent.
I have not heard what his thoughts are.

You’ve got to be careful with Sheehan IMO. Ask him about any draftee and he starts talking about them like they’re his own child - i.e. they’re the best everything, can’t do anything wrong etc.

Think his lists on best say small forwards, midfielders, key backs etc. go alright though. Put them together and see how many WA players they are in that group (probably 50+ players so there’s a few).

 

[anchor man]

You’ve got to be careful with Sheehan IMO. Ask him about any draftee and he starts talking about them like they’re his own child - i.e. they’re the best everything, can’t do anything wrong etc.

Think his lists on best say small forwards, midfielders, key backs etc. go alright though. Put them together and see how many WA players they are in that group (probably 50+ players so there’s a few).

Ablett, is a West Aussie. He seems to know his stuff.
We seldom hear from our WA footy experts on our draftees. So can only go by what the wise men from the East say.

 

[Lach72]

If Berry is gone by our pick I’m starting to get a good feeling about Cooper Hynes watching his highlights looks like he could be a gem

Looks quite a competitor, clean hands and a strong body. The sort of later first/early second round pick that knuckles down on his running work and suddenly turns into Jordan DeGoey

Ranked in top 20 in twomey rankings

Reminded me a bit if Morabito for some reason…

 

[bone2468]

Reminded me a bit if Morabito for some reason…

Damn I miss Morabito what a first season he had

 

[Docker4eva]

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We should be looking at pick 17, not 14, right? After all the shitty NGA and father son stuff.

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[Joao]

We should be looking at pick 17, not 14, right? After all the shitty NGA and father son stuff.

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Technically yes, but the easiest way to do it is just to rank the non-bid players and look at who is going in the 12-16 range.

 

[CapitalA]

We should be looking at pick 17, not 14, right? After all the shitty NGA and father son stuff.

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He has removed all of the father son and academy picks in that list.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We should be looking at pick 17, not 14, right? After all the shitty NGA and father son stuff.

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Other rankings you'd do that but because I removed points players, you just look at 14

 

[ubiquitous226]

Other rankings you'd do that but because I removed points players, you just look at 14

I look forward to you continuing to answer this question frequently before draft night

 

[Dayts]

How would you feel reading that if your player comparison was Atkins or Redmond when every other bloke is Pendlebury, Chad or Stewart?

Further to that, seems we can get Nick Riewoldt at 19... decent get.

It’s got me…
I was thinking Murphy Reid sounds like he could be a battler if the footy smarts don’t transition into the pace of senior footy
no wonder he’s “sliding”

Read he’s like Harry Sheezle. So now I’m gonna be bitterly disappointed if he’s not a docker

 

[malpaso]

We should be looking at pick 17, not 14, right? After all the shitty NGA and father son stuff.

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Ignore them. We can't pick those players anyway and neither can anyone else besides the teams that can. They just don't count.
It's a big furphy that our pick number drops.

 

[go_the_dockers]

New Gettable Episode

Top 10 - Who they expect to go top 10 (Names 13 players)
Apologies for spelling mistakes.

6 certainties
lawlor
ashcroft
smith
o'sulivan
draper
langford


Next level - very likely
smile
Taura


Possible
kako
lombard
reid
allen
travaglia

Did mention clubs are tight lipped at the moment.


Mention Fremantle. We will keep 14. Looking at the below players.
Travaglia - bit of fight for him at the moment form 8 to 15
Berry
Lindsay
Hotton

 

[ubiquitous226]

Ignore them. We can't pick those players anyway and neither can anyone else besides the teams that can. They just don't count.
It's a big furphy that our pick number drops.

I've seen this debated ad nauseum.

Personally I sit on the other side of the fence, the eventual pick number represents where you sat in the pecking order in terms of priority of choosing talent.

Rules like father son and academies dilute what you have access to as a non-aligned club.
There is a fair argument the northern academies add talent so it's not black and white though.

Long story short our pick sliding does represent something in my view.

 

[Joao]

I've seen this debated ad nauseum.

Personally I sit on the other side of the fence, the eventual pick number represents where you sat in the pecking order in terms of priority of choosing talent.

Rules like father son and academies dilute what you have access to as a non-aligned club.
There is a fair argument the northern academies add talent so it's not black and white though.

Long story short our pick sliding does represent something in my view.

It definitely matters in general, but I don't think it matters in the sense of our discussion for the draft, which I believe was the point that was being made here.

If all you want to know is who will be available and who is ranked around our pick, it makes sense to just flat out ignore the bid players.

 

[arsesmart]

Ignore them. We can't pick those players anyway and neither can anyone else besides the teams that can. They just don't count.
It's a big furphy that our pick number drops.

We can bid though...

What sound does a unbidden bid make in a locked box buried in an empty forest?

 

[ubiquitous226]

It definitely matters in general, but I don't think it matters in the sense of our discussion for the draft, which I believe was the point that was being made here.

If all you want to know is who will be available and who is ranked around our pick, it makes sense to just flat out ignore the bid players.

Agreed, and the approach Snuff has taken for the draft list makes complete sense.

It was probably the comment that it is a "big furphy" that the pick number drops that triggered me a little.