2025 Federal Election: A Pox o' Both Your Houses

[The Punter]

Self-managed super funds and family trusts are the biggest ****ing rort. Salary and wage earners are being taken for a ride while the wealthy pay little tax.

Come on, the union movement can't manage everyone's super...

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Come on, the union movement can't manage everyone's super...

Given the consistent outperformance of retail funds by industry funds, that maybe wouldn’t be such a bad thing.

So long as it wasn’t the CFMEU, LOL.

 

[Gough]

Given the consistent outperformance of retail funds by industry funds, that maybe wouldn’t be such a bad thing.

So long as it wasn’t the CFMEU, LOL.

Don't want the wrong sort of chap getting seats on boards.

 

[nut]

Yes, kinda

But the important thing is debt=credit somewhere else
If the govt is in debt, the working class is in debt, who has the credit?

No the important thing is who gets to create debt and thus money/credit… the majority of it is made from private banks.

 

[Saint]

Don't want the wrong sort of chap getting seats on boards.

Some of them even went to Public schools, ewww!

I have a theory about Retail Super funds. If their board/traders were so confident they could out-perform the market by 10% (ludicrous to think you could, but let's assume they think they can). Then there's no way they wouldn't be investing their own money (I bet they use SMSFs themselves, not the retail fund) in those investments as well).

I would love to see how many big super fund plays are not preceded by trades by their employees. So they get to use the super money to underwrite and boost their own pre-emptive trades.

The moral of the story is that if you can beat other traders and the market by 10% working for a retail super fund, then you wouldn't need to work at a retail Super fund.

If you use a retail super fund, there's something wrong with your critical thinking (I bet there's a lot of overlap with religious people- how many times do we hear some fund trader ripped off everyone at his church?).

 

[Forward Press]

Some people on here need to see this - and yes, I am also talking about those on the left side of politics. Interview with Max Chandler-Mather of the Greens where he talks about engaging with those holding radically different views.

Think many lose sight of the fact that those without the same political opinions as you are also people.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Don't want the wrong sort of chap getting seats on boards.

It really must annoy older libs that this nation's economic reformer was a high school drop out from working class stdney.

And that his ideas of super also let's working and middle class people invest into super funds that outperform their private shcool pals.

 

[liz]

Peter Dutton’s taxpayer-funded flight to ‘long lunch’ on Noosa River was investigated by expenses watchdog

Exclusive: Expenses authority found claim was within parliamentary rules because Dutton attended ‘in his official capacity as a minister’

www.theguardian.com

This passes the parliamentary rules but not the sniff test. Both parties are guilty of similar rorts.

 

[Ticky009]

 

[liz]

It’s not just about raw numbers. It also counts how winnable seats are.

 

[troybe]

What are the rules regarding candidate signage? I’m starting to see a lot of street signage out the front of houses

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

ALP Majority has entered the chat.

I can't see a way they hold all of their seats. Lingiari in particular, after Labor got smashed in the NT election last year.

Bennelong, Higgins and Gilmore too, I wouldn't be backing the ALP.

The Trump effect means all bets are off. Canada should be a test case as to what could happen here. Don't be surprised any socially progressive/ economically conservative style seats either swing to Labor or they retain with a bigger majority. Aka centrist leaning. They do not want a far right agenda and Labor is the lesser of 2 evils.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

I think they'll lose more than they'll win. I don't think they have done enough to deliver what they promised in terms of cost of living. I can't see them getting more votes than last election. Obviously the distribution of those will be important, but across the board, I see a small swing against (toward minor parties) which will inevitably cost more seats than it wins.

I'm not sure Dai Le has done poorly enough, or that the damage from the Kenneally parachute can be completely undone.

But if I were betting, yes I think the ALP would win Fowler.

Dai Le has done bugger all for her electorate, very vanilla representative. Only reason she asks questions in Parliament is because she has been pressured by her constituents to do something. Heard this from a source. She's there to warm the seat not to be proactive.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Great, but I'm still not following, because not being a punter, I don't following betting odds for anything.

By saying the Labor majority odds are in "free fall", are you saying they have shortened dramatically in recent days?

Yes, you can see it's 2nd favourite now behind Minority government. It's clearly Trump related. He is killing any chance Dutton has of winning by the looks of it.

 

[Rotayjay]

Dai Le has done bugger all for her electorate, very vanilla representative. Only reason she asks questions in Parliament is because she has been pressured by her constituents to do something. Heard this from a source. She's there to warm the seat not to be proactive.

Labor runs an Asian candidate in Fowler = Dai Le loses

 

[Ticky009]

CURVES - a new voting group distinction

 

[peetoo]

I reckon younger voters are socially conservative. They just don’t like conservative politicians who don’t speak for them

And let’s remember there’s not many boomer politicians left. So ots not that

 

[nut]

 

[Shane Sheridan]

Hedged my bets with a Labor minority at $2.60, and halved that stake at $6.50 for a Labor majority

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Hedged my bets with a Labor minority at $2.60, and halved that stake at $6.50 for a Labor majority

If Roy Morgan's poll is accurate 6.50 is extremely juicy odds which says to me it's not. I stead of 54-45 it's more likely 52-48

 

[samFFC]

Let’s go Canada- do the right thing!

Canada's Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre thought he had the elections in his pocket, then this happened

Pierre Poilievres polling lead fades as Trumps influence divides Canadian conservatives. Explore shifting voter trends, Liberal gains under Carney, and the GOPs impact on Canadas 2025 election.

m.economictimes.com

 

[nut]

Interesting shift.
Looks like the LNP may need to offer some policies after all.

 

[nut]

Was there another poll out last night?

 

[Rotayjay]

Was there another poll out last night?

Looks like another Roy Morgan: 53-47. Labor's way. It's not the be-all and end-all, and a fair way to go, but it's undeniable that the tide has turned.

Opinion polling for the 2025 Australian federal election - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Yes, you can see it's 2nd favourite now behind Minority government. It's clearly Trump related. He is killing any chance Dutton has of winning by the looks of it.

Grey clouds, silver linings