I'd say wing
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& O’Monahan this year?
Tough initiation learning the game in the VFL in 2024 as a forward (prob any team, though I thought Casey made a decent fist of it when he came across, socks up & all).
Sounds like he's probably got the tank to play wing as well.
Won a 2km time trial in 6m24s over in Ireland - which would have placed him just outside of the top half dozen in the AFL draft combine this year....and sounded like the conditions were less than ideal. First time running the trial, and reckons he could break the 6 minute barrier in Australia.
"Over the last fortnight, club representatives flew into Ireland and put some hopefuls through their paces, including a 2km time trial.
Duffy won that race in six minutes 24 seconds and reckons he could have gone faster in different conditions. It clearly impressed Carlton, who described him as a “running machine” when announcing his signing."
Rising Longford star Matt Duffy: AFL was too big a chance to turn down
It’s been a breakthrough 12 months for ‘The Irish Experiment’ in the AFL.
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Sounds like he's probably got the tank to play wing as well.
Won a 2km time trial in 6m24s over in Ireland - which would have placed him just outside of the top half dozen in the AFL draft combine this year....and sounded like the conditions were less than ideal. First time running the trial, and reckons he could break the 6 minute barrier in Australia.
"Over the last fortnight, club representatives flew into Ireland and put some hopefuls through their paces, including a 2km time trial.
Duffy won that race in six minutes 24 seconds and reckons he could have gone faster in different conditions. It clearly impressed Carlton, who described him as a “running machine” when announcing his signing."
Rising Longford star Matt Duffy: AFL was too big a chance to turn down
It’s been a breakthrough 12 months for ‘The Irish Experiment’ in the AFL.
Haven't seen him move since the ACL, but has Acres type traits
Runs all day, happy to come into traffic, very upright
If he has recovered well, could surprise late in the season
Rate him better than Monahan
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Of the top 10 in the Brownlow 1 was traded but 4 were not available in the open draft. So half of the top 10 have been traded or you are unable to draft.
The top 21 of the AFLCA vote 7 of the top 21 are the same.
Considering probably 10 times the value of draft picks are used in the draft rather then traded I still think I would be looking to make as many trades as I could every single year your salary cap allows.
I went back and looked at Cooper Lord's VFL highlights yesterday. The two things you pick up from those clips were firstly, how ridiculously impressive he was from his first game in the navy.
And secondly, if we don't add Liam McMahon to our senior list, we're crazy imo. He can easily slot in as a 3rd marking option up forward behind Charles and H. Leads into space, excellent overhead, and a bewdiful set shot at the big sticks....AND can pinch hit down back as well - although he's more of a natural forward.
Still only 22yo, and a far less speculative option than your gonna get late in the draft or as a rookie.
And secondly, if we don't add Liam McMahon to our senior list, we're crazy imo. He can easily slot in as a 3rd marking option up forward behind Charles and H. Leads into space, excellent overhead, and a bewdiful set shot at the big sticks....AND can pinch hit down back as well - although he's more of a natural forward.
Still only 22yo, and a far less speculative option than your gonna get late in the draft or as a rookie.
Oh I agree. Whenever it's required to improve your list, absolutely.
For example, we've traded every year for the past 10 years or so, except this one, bringing in Saad, Chez, Acres, Elijah etc.
We decided this year, in this draft, it was a better way to go, than trading. Dan Houston the example. Don't get me wrong, if Houston was a gun mid we might have gone a different way. I was merely wanting to point out the benefits of the draft, coz that's the way we went this year.
I did not intend to diminish the importance of trading or FA, for that matter. Both certainly have their place and are very important in building the right list.
My use of the word occasionally was not right.
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The draft is generally your only way to manage your cap. Get your draft picks wrong, its a tough gig paying to plug those holes via the trading table as well as trading for the premiership last mile of the list, as we have seen.
List Management is a very fine balancing act.
A lot of moving parts. Not hard to get wrong I would think. Trade? Draft? Salary cap? Etc
Glad it's not me doing it for this great club. Not with us lot to answer to
forget that. Way too much pressure for my old ticker.
I certainly don't have the credentials to build a premiership list, but I am hoping like anything that one Nick Austin does! That's why they got him in the 1st place, I would hope, and not just because of his relationship with the club. They had/have faith in him, to build a premiership list.
Faith. Tricky thing about faith is, it depends on the strength of your belief/s. My belief in this club, over my time, has been immensely strong, but it has been eroded somewhat over the past 20 years.
One of the reasons for that, was the people in charge of our club, who, in my eyes, didn't make the right decisions. Most, if not all, those people are not there now. Now I believe we have the right people.
My belief, and therefore, my faith in Nick and the club, to not only get pick 3 right this year, but also get the list right, is, at this point, probably about 90%.
I think he's the right guy, but then again, so does the club.
The rest of the 10% will be the proof of the pudding and a majority of that pudding is in this draft and the decisions made.
I will also say that I think G Wright is an extremely good operator and a very savvy guy.
I firmly believe he "jumped ship" to us (from them) because he sees not only what's there now, but what's to come, for both camps. Winners or losers. Who do you want to be on?
We have been in the "wilderness" for far too long.
That's about to change I reckon and so does GW.
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A lot of moving parts. Not hard to get wrong I would think. Trade? Draft? Salary cap? Etc
Glad it's not me doing it for this great club. Not with us lot to answer to
forget that. Way too much pressure for my old ticker. I certainly don't have the credentials to build a premiership list, but I am hoping like anything that one Nick Austin does! That's why they got him in the 1st place, I would hope, and not just because of his relationship with the club. They had/have faith in him, to build a premiership list.
Faith. Tricky thing about faith is, it depends on the strength of your belief/s. My belief in this club, over my time, has been immensely strong, but it has been eroded somewhat over the past 20 years.
One of the reasons for that, was the people in charge of our club, who, in my eyes, didn't make the right decisions. Most, if not all, those people are not there now. Now I believe we have the right people.
My belief, and therefore, my faith in Nick and the club, to not only get pick 3 right this year, but also get the list right, is, at this point, probably about 90%.
I think he's the right guy, but then again, so does the club.
The rest of the 10% will be the proof of the pudding and a majority of that pudding is in this draft and the decisions made.
I will also say that I think G Wright is an extremely good operator and a very savvy guy.
I firmly believe he "jumped ship" to us (from them) because he sees not only what's there now, but what's to come, for both camps. Winners or losers. Who do you want to be on?
We have been in the "wilderness" for far too long.
That's about to change I reckon and so does GW.
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With Haynes, the elevating of Boyd, and the return of Duffy as a rookie A player, we have 32 senior list players, 4 rookie A and 1 rookie B.
That's 7 spots to fill and they can 4-6 seniors, or 1-3 rookies.
I think we will go with 5 seniors and 2 rookies at this stage. Pick 3, Pick 38 and the Campo boys, one DFA and 2 rookies.
If 38 is burnt on Ben Camporeale though, we'd probably take an extra DFA.
I'm loving the flexibility we have right now.
The point is we have room to add the likes of Allison if he suits us. With his endurance base and marking ability, he could be a tall winger like Mason Wood. He could end up being a lead up link player that means McKay can stay at home or we have a dual threat up the line.
We don't have that exact type. Acres would never be accused of being a key forward, so height and reach are two different things.
The Saints couldn't use him in that role as they already had Wood.
I at least like the out of the box thinking and reinventing of players with decent attributes but no form to fall back on.
That's 7 spots to fill and they can 4-6 seniors, or 1-3 rookies.
I think we will go with 5 seniors and 2 rookies at this stage. Pick 3, Pick 38 and the Campo boys, one DFA and 2 rookies.
If 38 is burnt on Ben Camporeale though, we'd probably take an extra DFA.
I'm loving the flexibility we have right now.
The point is we have room to add the likes of Allison if he suits us. With his endurance base and marking ability, he could be a tall winger like Mason Wood. He could end up being a lead up link player that means McKay can stay at home or we have a dual threat up the line.
We don't have that exact type. Acres would never be accused of being a key forward, so height and reach are two different things.
The Saints couldn't use him in that role as they already had Wood.
I at least like the out of the box thinking and reinventing of players with decent attributes but no form to fall back on.
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Save one rookie spot for SSP - we've already indicated we'll have a spot free. Prob means just one rookie in your scenario.
We can also move a player from primary list to rookie list after the ND (to return to desired 36-6).
Duffy will be Cat B.
The DFA period is closed.
I’d be pretty shocked if we add more than 4 to the Senior List (all in the ND) then probably 1-2 in the Rookie Draft, leaving 1-2 spots open for SSP.
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Duffy is already listed as a Cat-B player on the AFL website, though whether that's accurate or not, I don't know - there's a published date of 13-Nov for "International signings". And you'd like to think Carlton would have published something if it was already done. Either way, I agree, he will be Cat-B.
I think there's another DFA period to come. In years past there were 3, and I can find references to such again this year, but nothing that confirms dates. The main draft board says there's one after the ND. The "Key Dates" on the AFL trade hub doesn't list any beyond the first period (which is already closed as you say), but it's clearly an incomplete list of dates. So, who knows!!
I wouldn't be shocked if we added 5 to the senior list (from this point, not including Boyd), but neither do I think it's likely. If we do add more than four, it's probable that we move a player (or two) to the rookie list.
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We are probably 2 or 3 players off seriously challenging, hopefully we can find them within the list space we have created this year.
Average across the league for the last decade is 9 changes per club, nothing unusual
Which clearly shows the ones we want to keep are happy at the club and aren’t leaving
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The rookie spot makes no difference as the list size can only be 44 anyway. However, there is/was a rule that you can only have one Irish Rookie B on your list and any others have to be Rookie A. Unless Monahan is Rookie A, this would mean Duffy has to be A. I guess we could have asked for special dispensation.
DFA or SSP, we can sign delisted players regardless.
Bringing it here, not a rumour.
It makes a difference, because if Duffy is Cat A, we do lose a list spot unless we find another Cat B.
The rule about only 1 Irish Cat B seems to be done away with. Although the AFL is absolutely pathetic about announcing such changes, or being clear to the public about the rules. The AFL website said Duffy was Cat B. But again, that could be wrong.
The difference between DFA and SSP is whether they join the Senior List or the Rookie List.
It makes a difference, because if Duffy is Cat A, we do lose a list spot unless we find another Cat B.
The rule about only 1 Irish Cat B seems to be done away with. Although the AFL is absolutely pathetic about announcing such changes, or being clear to the public about the rules. The AFL website said Duffy was Cat B. But again, that could be wrong.
The difference between DFA and SSP is whether they join the Senior List or the Rookie List.
There was an interview with Liam in the papers the other day where he talked about how after being drafted in the 2nd round he barely played year 1 due to covid and then had a reasonable year in the 2s in defense where he though he was tracking well. At his exit interview Fly said the Pies were closer to a Premiership than they had thought and were going for more experienced options and then brought in Frampton (and maybe Kreuger). I guess it worked for the Pies but it has left them with a hole in their youth. Liam was very stiff to be dropped and we definitely need the depth.
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Agreed, I guess it depends on if someone decides to be a prick and bids on Lucas.
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Yep, that rule went away a few years ago.
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To add to Stam's comment, see:
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The one Irish Cat-B player rule was removed in 2021.
I doubt that is the case for clubs finishing in finals, let alone top 4 the year before. Our list was weak, as argued 2 years ago
