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It's about having the option. How would they have gone if Neal was injured in the prelim? It's about having back up plans to the backup plans.

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Exactly. Also, giving players like Cripps a breather throughout the season and sometimes using him as a forward

Our main group won’t change but you need options and depth
 
In the grand final Brisbane used 4 players at CBA's (not including rucks) Neale 90 % Dunkley 87 % McCluggage 74 % and Ashcroft 44 %

So not the entire game? What did they use during the whole year?

In big games and key moments you use your guns. No brainer but it’s a long year and it would be improbable that they are all fit all year

To win a flag you need depth and options

Cripps last year had his best year ever and we finished 8th. We need to support him and others to win number 17
 
So not the entire game? What did they use during the whole year?

In big games and key moments you use your guns. No brainer but it’s a long year and it would be improbable that they are all fit all year

To win a flag you need depth and options

Cripps last year had his best year ever and we finished 8th. We need to support him and others to win number 17
Arrow provided the breakdown above across the whole year. Jarrod Berry and Lyons took Ashcrofts CBAs when he was out.

Apart from that its was still the same mix of types etc. Of course if injuries /management occur then you bring in mids like Cooper Lord

I do not want to see Motlop/durdin etc taking CBAs. I am o.k with Fogarty going in as a chop out as he was a mid as a junior and is actually o.k at getting clearances.
 

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Arrow provided the breakdown above across the whole year. Jarrod Berry and Lyons took Ashcrofts CBAs when he was out.

Apart from that its was still the same mix of types etc. Of course if injuries /management occur then you bring in mids like Cooper Lord

I do not want to see Motlop/durdin etc taking CBAs. I am o.k with Fogarty going in as a chop out as he was a mid as a junior and is actually o.k at getting clearances.

Lions also had Cameron, Bailey, Zorko, Rayner, Tunstill and if not for injuries may have had more playing mid minutes

The Swans had heaps of players rotating through the middle throughout the year. Heeney Parker C.Warner Chad Warner Mills Florent Rowbottom Gulden Jordan Adams McInerney and Papley all had time in the midfield in 2024. Papley has real "Impact" minutes as a mid in many games

So for you it's not the logic but the actual players we are discussing?
 
Thanks for highlighting and proving my point 👍

No team has same people doing ALL the CBAs. Our core will be Cripps Walsh Cerra Hewett. They will also not play every week

What we are talking about is who does extra minutes and fills in when needed to our pressure, impact etc doesn’t fall away. More options and flexibility the better
All blues fans know we need to improve our midfield set up. We were too one-paced and predictable. The club recognised it…moving on Kennedy and moving heaven and earth to draft Jagga. The core group, when all fit, are top shelf. Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, George and Jagga will do the majority.

I like most here, were surprised that you said Durdin, Motlop, Charlie and kemp should play midfield minutes. I would think we have way better options in Doc, Elijah, Lord, Williams and even Ben C.
 
Arrow provided the breakdown above across the whole year. Jarrod Berry and Lyons took Ashcrofts CBAs when he was out.

Apart from that its was still the same mix of types etc. Of course if injuries /management occur then you bring in mids like Cooper Lord

I do not want to see Motlop/durdin etc taking CBAs. I am o.k with Fogarty going in as a chop out as he was a mid as a junior and is actually o.k at getting clearances.

We actually used more players at CBAs than the Lions, 15 to 13 (excluding ruckmen). Both sides had 6 players attend 100 or more, we had 2 more players for rotations/cameos. It's a fallacy that we aren't using more players as rotations

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I think there are more pressing changes rather than the players rotating through the middle, such as better setups at those CBAs and other parts of the ground both in attacking and defensive layers. Also a better balance of ball movement
 
I like most here, were surprised that you said Durdin, Motlop, Charlie and kemp should play midfield minutes. I would think we have way better options in Doc, Elijah, Lord, Williams and even Ben C.

I listed them as options and we are talking about minute or two a game and maybe not every game. I’m looking over an entire season

The reason for naming them is they play other roles in the side as their primary role. I also listed Williams Docherty Elijah Lord etc as options

If we have a heap of pure mids in the side we will struggle in other areas

I am purely talking about having options and the ability to mix things up at times.

Seems people have run with it like I’m changing our midfield which is not correct
 
We actually used more players at CBAs than the Lions, 15 to 13 (excluding ruckmen). Both sides had 6 players attend 100 or more, we had 2 more players for rotations/cameos. It's a fallacy that we aren't using more players as rotations

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I think there are more pressing changes rather than the players rotating through the middle, such as better setups at those CBAs and other parts of the ground both in attacking and defensive layers. Also a better balance of ball movement

So again proving my point. Thanks 👍
 
I like most here, were surprised that you said Durdin, Motlop, Charlie and kemp should play midfield minutes. I would think we have way better options in Doc, Elijah, Lord, Williams and even Ben C.
Here is my post. Fair to say people are misrepresenting my comments

“Trying to fit Cripps Walsh Cerra Hewett Smith Elijah Lord Docherty and get maximum benefits is going to be interesting. I also hope we give Williams Fogarty Durdin Motlop and even Kemp & Charlie some mid minutes at times to mix it up

I expect Ben Campo & Wilson to be pushing for a game at some stage

If we can get it right that is one heck of a midfield that won't let up on the opposition”
 
Imo, we have our core mids whom have been spoken about, but I also think the more players we have for cameo chop outs the better it will serve us. It’s a long season and we need to at times be able to preserve our best mids a little. If possible, I’m all for rotating(only for a few minute spells and if there fit enough)the likes of mots, durds,Williams, lij, doc ect as it also adds different dynamics in midfield set ups and keeps the opposition on there toes to an extent.
 
Imo, we have our core mids whom have been spoken about, but I also think the more players we have for cameo chop outs the better it will serve us. It’s a long season and we need to at times be able to preserve our best mids a little. If possible, I’m all for rotating(only for a few minute spells and if there fit enough)the likes of mots, durds,Williams, lij, doc ect as it also adds different dynamics in midfield set ups and keeps the opposition on there toes to an extent.

Always good to have viable options and or players used as a change up.

Based on last year, we are no different to any other side in this space, especially where we used more players than the premiers
 
Always good to have viable options and or players used as a change up.

Based on last year, we are no different to any other side in this space, especially where we used more players than the premiers
The other key for me(like u alluded to in another post) is our set ups/ mix at stoppage. Imo, we need some certain types that if we don’t win the ball, then we can also chase/tackle/harass ect when the opposition get it. That was a big issue for me last year.
Obviously the perfect scenario is to win the ball first, but realistically that won’t always happen so we need to be a little mindful about it.
 
The other key for me(like u alluded to in another post) is our set ups/ mix at stoppage. Imo, we need some certain types that if we don’t win the ball, then we can also chase/tackle/harass ect when the opposition get it. That was a big issue for me last year.
Obviously the perfect scenario is to win the ball first, but realistically that won’t always happen so we need to be a little mindful about it.

Agreed, the likes of Smith will certainly help, but there are other variables than just the mix of centre bounce/stoppage players.

I'm more interested in the players/setup on the edge of those stoppages, wings, HBs, HFs and how Voss utilises these variables when we have or don't have the pill
 

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Here is my post. Fair to say people are misrepresenting my comments

“Trying to fit Cripps Walsh Cerra Hewett Smith Elijah Lord Docherty and get maximum benefits is going to be interesting. I also hope we give Williams Fogarty Durdin Motlop and even Kemp & Charlie some mid minutes at times to mix it up

I expect Ben Campo & Wilson to be pushing for a game at some stage

If we can get it right that is one heck of a midfield that won't let up on the opposition”
Me thinks you protest too much. Charlie, Kemp, Motlop will never play midfield minutes.

As for Wilson. I nominated him months ago as my boy. He has the attributes to strengthen our team. Needs to dominate the VFL and put his hand up before he’s looked at though. Hoping he plays a handful of games this year, as that would be a huge positive for the club.

Good to see you and others are on board 👍
 

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