Training 2025 Pre-Season

[AFC979810]

I hope you and mostyn are getting paid holiday pay

I know you aren't the sharpest.

Not sure why I would receive holiday pay,

My posting on this issue isn't supportive of the club by any means. Its just a shut down of the idiotic thinking that a draftees performance in cross training in December has any relevance at all.

Some players are gifted runners. They perform in running from very early on. Nick Daicos won the 2km time trial in November of 2022 for a premiership side at the age of 19.

 

[kirky]

Thoughts?



And Luke is doing so well on track he is listed twice.

 

[kirky]

Looks a pretty handy team to me,
No way should have they come anywhere near last

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Agree we should not have come last.

Walker on a wing? Wow.

 

[Cromulant]

Thoughts?

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And Luke is doing so well on track he is listed twice.

Pedlar would need a bit to go right to make the best 23.

Curtin isn't going to play BP in our side IMO.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

What does running in December have to do with bloody anything?

I would understand it if we had been getting run over in the last quarters / halves of games. If we didnt have the best fitness guru in the industry at our club.

Trying to judge anything on a December running session is plain stupid.

Seriously chill out!

You are yelling at clouds...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Thoughts?

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And Luke is doing so well on track he is listed twice.

23 looks similar to mine, except I have Crouch in for Nankervis with Laird in defence.

Also, swap Curtin & Cumming roles.

 

[AFC979810]

Seriously chill out!

You are yelling at clouds...

I am not the one saying the club accepts mediocrity because draper ran fast.

It was more yelling at Milo and the 9 people that liked his post saying the players and club should be embarrassed because of a December training session.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I am not the one saying the club accepts mediocrity because draper ran fast.

It was more yelling at Milo and the 9 people that liked his post saying the players and club should be embarrassed because of a December training session.

You made far more out of that post that what they were saying.

Time to move on...

 

[AFC979810]

You made far more out of that post that what they were saying.

Time to move on...

Disagree. Plenty for our club to be embarrassed about. A draftee running fast isnt one of them.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Disagree. Plenty for our club to be embarrassed about. A draftee running fast isnt one of them.

I agree with you, but you have made your point.

We get it... move on.

Draper is a known great runner, so no surprise to most.

 

[Crow_68]

Thoughts?

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And Luke is doing so well on track he is listed twice.

Hugh Bond getting no love??

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

The excuse at the time was a limited preseason to learn the new game plan because of Covid.

In hindsight, more likely just poor new game plan & coaching.

That is a handy side that should not have won a spoon.

I think that is definitely partly true. Nicks is no good but he was dealt a bad hand in 2020.

Looks a pretty handy team to me,
No way should have they come anywhere near last

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Sort of but a lot of those players weren’t anything yet, and I think a lot the senior players had written the season off. It’s not a good mentality to have if you want to be competitive.

 

[kirky]

I think that is definitely partly true. Nicks is no good but he was dealt a bad hand in 2020.



Sort of but a lot of those players weren’t anything yet, and I think a lot the senior players had written the season off. It’s not a good mentality to have if you want to be competitive.

Interestingly we struggled to run games out for the majority of the season (bar the last few games) so we weren’t at all prepared fitness wise which alludes to your point the senior players had written the year off.

And given we now know Nicks isn’t the best strategic coach so we were on a hiding to nothing.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Interestingly we struggled to run games out for the majority of the season (bar the last few games) so we weren’t at all prepared fitness wise which alludes to your point the senior players had written the year off.

And given we now know Nicks isn’t the best strategic coach so we were on a hiding to nothing.

Well, AFC979810 will vehemently disagree with you on the subject of fitness ......could it have something to o with having the 2nd youngest list, with the fewest PS's put into them

As for strategic coaches .....Chris Fagan copped all sorts of criticism in 2024 for his poor strategic thinking .....your problem is you're stuck in the Blight era time capsule

Fagan being 2-5 win/loss ....asked what the problem is ....he says he doesn't know
Just imagine if Nicks said that .....and everything else Fagan believes in, like full support of his group at 2:5 .....this board has already exploded over every misspoke word from the club

From the 4 min mark ....reference Fagans poor strategic coaching record

 

[Mutineer]

Well, AFC979810 will vehemently disagree with you on the subject of fitness ......could it have something to o with having the 2nd youngest list, with the fewest PS's put into them

As for strategic coaches .....Chris Fagan copped all sorts of criticism in 2024 for his poor strategic thinking .....your problem is you're stuck in the Blight era time capsule

Fagan being 2-5 win/loss ....asked what the problem is ....he says he doesn't know
Just imagine if Nicks said that .....and everything else Fagan believes in, like full support of his group at 2:5 .....this board has already exploded over every misspoke word

From the 4 min mark ....reference Fagans poor strategic coaching record

Davis must have whispered in his ear with a new game plan.... it's that obvious. LOL

 

[Mostyn]

Thoughts?

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And Luke is doing so well on track he is listed twice.

Seems a fair way off to me.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Davis must have whispered in his ear with a new game plan.... it's that obvious. LOL

The absolute funniest post I've read in my time on BF .....is that Davis was brought in to be Nicks replacement ....you couldn't make it up ...............oh hold on ...

 

[AFC979810]

Well, AFC979810 will vehemently disagree with you on the subject of fitness ......could it have something to o with having the 2nd youngest list, with the fewest PS's put into them

Absolutely.

First Quarter - won 9 lost 14.
Second Quarter - won 12 lost 10 drew 1.
Third Quarter - won 8 lost 15
Fourth Quarter - Won 13 lost 9

Seems to me our best quarters were the 2nd and 4th. Seems to me thats when fitness kicks in. Looks like we are out coached by the other side after long breaks.

Fitness was not an issue or a reason we missed the finals in 2023 or 2024.

 

[AFC979810]

I agree with you, but you have made your point.

We get it... move on.

Draper is a known great runner, so no surprise to most.

Not a Mod yet old son.

 

[Golumless]

Absolutely.

First Quarter - won 9 lost 14.
Second Quarter - won 12 lost 10 drew 1.
Third Quarter - won 8 lost 15
Fourth Quarter - Won 13 lost 9

Seems to me our best quarters were the 2nd and 4th. Seems to me thats when fitness kicks in. Looks like we are out coached by the other side after long breaks.

Fitness was not an issue or a reason we missed the finals in 2023 or 2024.

The other - and more likely* - argument is this indicates that we're using fitness (and by that, momentum) to try to counteract a lack of star-power in the team.

Which also is supported by the fact we're getting within two goals frequently but not quite able to climb over that hump (though, we have wasted a lot of opportunities).

* Considering the squad makeup in the last two years.

 

[Scorpus]

The other - and more likely* - argument is this indicates that we're using fitness (and by that, momentum) to try to counteract a lack of star-power in the team.

Which also is supported by the fact we're getting within two goals frequently but not quite able to climb over that hump (though, we have wasted a lot of opportunities).

* Considering the squad makeup in the last two years.

There's also teams taking the foot off the gas when they are decently in front at half time so we "win" the second half mounting a comeback against reduced opposition

For example in the final round we "won" the last quarter against Sydney but were down 49 at 3QT. Won the 4th against Gold Coast, down 29 at 3QT. Won the 4th against Melbourne, down 28 at 3QT. Won the 4th against Hawthorn, down 33 at 3QT. All these games we lost

 

[Cromulant]

There's also teams taking the foot off the gas when they are decently in front at half time so we "win" the second half mounting a comeback against reduced opposition

For example in the final round we "won" the last quarter against Sydney but were down 49 at 3QT. Won the 4th against Gold Coast, down 29 at 3QT. Won the 4th against Melbourne, down 28 at 3QT. Won the 4th against Hawthorn, down 33 at 3QT. All these games we lost

I don't think that's the case at all though, particularly not the Suns and Melbourne

 

[Scorpus]

I don't think that's the case at all though, particularly not the Suns and Melbourne

It was 51-22 in the Suns match and we had kicked 3 goals to 3QT. They were absolutely crusing, their foot came off the gas and we stormed back in with some momentum and attacking footy.

Melbourne were cruising too, up 9 goals to 4 mid way through the third quarter. You don't reckon that played into our comeback?

 

[Cromulant]

It was 51-22 in the Suns match and we had kicked 3 goals to 3QT. They were absolutely crusing, their foot came off the gas and we stormed back in with some momentum and attacking footy.

Melbourne were cruising too, up 9 goals to 4 mid way through the third quarter. You don't reckon that played into our comeback?

In AFL footy these days I don't think you can take your foot off the gas, particularly early in the season like those games were. Sides coming off disappointing season too.

Sydney game absolutely.

Footy these days is all about momentum, there was plenty of games this year where we had it and looked great. Likewise when oppo had it and we couldn't stop it

 

[Scorpus]

In AFL footy these days I don't think you can take your foot off the gas, particularly early in the season like those games were. Sides coming off disappointing season too.

Sydney game absolutely.

Footy these days is all about momentum, there was plenty of games this year where we had it and looked great. Likewise when oppo had it and we couldn't stop it

The tell for me is we won just 1 game after trailing at half time and 2 games after trailing at 3QT.

So even if we performed okay in those last quarters relative to others it rarely changed the existing path of the match