2nd T20 Australia v Pakistan November 16 1830hrs @ The SCG

[PhatBoy]

Stats can be deceiving . Its the position where your expected to have the highest average. A strike rate of 120 , is 60 runs off 50 balls. Alot of those grounds played on in the PSL, are 200+ wickets and some are 220+ and 240+ wickets. Watched a fair bit of PSL, you do notice a dramatic acceleration in the last 10 overs in those fixtures, probably more so than any other franchise leagues around the world.

I know they are different wickets but its just intent for me.

The game has changed . Ive watched SA V India, West Indies v England and Australia v Pakistan bat over the last week. The contrasts between 4 of those nations, South Africa and Pakistan couldn't be more different. South Africa simply dont have the talent in batting , especially in the Top 3. Pakistan have the talent but the intent isnt there. The other 4 are going from the get-go, they know they have to attack that first 6. And thats where the Power Surge in the BBL is showing in the international game. You have a Power Surge (2 overs), as a batting side, you know you cant waste 12 deliveries. The minimum expectation in a BBL Power surge is around 25+ runs, and teams tend to be clearing 30+ at times.

I actually dont have a problem with Aussies losing 4 wickets or whatever was the other night inside the powerplay, i put a bit more blame on that middle order for not playing the right shots in the middle overs. Gone are the days where you lose 2 to 3 wickets in the Powerplay (first 6 overs) and look to consolidate and get yourself in.



That score above tells you all you need to know.

India 129/1 after 10 the other day v SA. (Yes I know they are different wickets but again look at the intent)

The averages can be deceiving in T20 especially for an opener. Pakistan wickets are high scoring grounds and Dubai/Abu Dhabi (assuming that Pakistan played a fair bit) are high scoring grounds. I can make a bit of an exception for a lower strike rate at Sharjah, having attended that ground in person before, seems like a surface that is generally harder to score on. (I dont have the exact numbers on me)

A closer look at Rizwans numbers:

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Ill also say that because Pakistan players dont get to play in the IPL- it hinders a bit their ability by no fault of their own. Rizwan might be compatible on Australian grounds for Test matches and ODI games. He's shown that in Tests multiple times. But he can't bat fast here because his release shots do not get him boundaries here. I also consider a 120 strike rate on overseas flat wickets not comparable to 120 strike rates on Australian wickets . Australian grounds mostly are bigger grounds compared to alot of grounds the world.

After watching Samson, Abhishek, Fraser McGurk, Short, Salt , Jacks, Lewis and Hope bat, the contrasts in method couldnt be more different.

Im reading from some Pakistan fans saying he should be used at 4 in case wickets falls but that record doesnt make for great reading either. Looking at those numbers, I would have gone 'horses for courses'. You dont have power, you dont get picked.

Pakistan play South Africa next and my feeling is those grounds will suit his style as they tend to be better batting wickets for T20 due to a few of those games being at altitude and the records sort of support that.

What has the PSL got to do with his international numbers where he has a strike rate of 140 in Pakistan?

If it’s so easy to average nearly 50, why is Virat Kohli the only player from a tier 1 nation with 1000+ runs with a better average?

Whatever the analysis, there is no circumstance in which you could accuse him of being a shit t20 batsman.

 

[4Seasons]

Well done lads defended very well

Good bowling by the quicks and zamps class again

Inglis good bowling changes field placements

Still work to to do with the bat by overall going okay

The psycho WA guy with the Inglis nod, embarrassing.
Even as a Western Australian I can see Johnson is the real deal, Morris a prospect.
Our psycho numpties will continue to say the whole of Australia is against WA, and Morris and Richardson don't have injury history.

 

[NYRB]

What has the PSL got to do with his international numbers where he has a strike rate of 140 in Pakistan?

If it’s so easy to average nearly 50, why is Virat Kohli the only player from a tier 1 nation with 1000+ runs with a better average?

Whatever the analysis, there is no circumstance in which you could accuse him of being a shit t20 batsman.

The game today is much different to what it was when the 2007 T20 World Cup was on. Its even different to what it was 10 years ago. I just think the game has changed to even what the game was 2 years ago. In the IPL, they talk about T20 evolving , the comms keep bringing this up and I believe it.



There is a reason why Pakistan didnt make it out of the World Cup group stages (Canada and Ireland also gave them a game) and are now 0-2 down, with a sweep likely.

Until Pakistan are serious about winning a World Cup T20 again they should be looking at potential youth or even some of the batsman that showed more aggressiveness from the ODI series. They are there, they just aren't using them. And if you are to play Rizwan, you could have him at 4, and float him around given the game situation. Promote power hitters ahead of him, if openers get on a run. Saim Ayub one name is that potentially could take over the reigns of an opener spot. He was striking it at 97.65 in the recent ODI series.

This Pakistan journalist hit the nail-in-the head.



Given players a cap for 'six hitting' or 'highest strike rate' . Need to stop rewarding 'averages'. And if it means bringing Bonus Points like in Australias Marsh Cup so be it. I believe the SA20 still use the Bonus Point system.

 

[PhatBoy]

The game today is much different to what it was when the 2007 T20 World Cup was on. Its even different to what it was 10 years ago. I just think the game has changed to even what the game was 2 years ago. In the IPL, they talk about T20 evolving , the comms keep bringing this up and I believe it.



There is a reason why Pakistan didnt make it out of the World Cup group stages (Canada and Ireland also gave them a game) and are now 0-2 down, with a sweep likely.

Until Pakistan are serious about winning a World Cup T20 again they should be looking at potential youth or even some of the batsman that showed more aggressiveness from the ODI series. They are there, they just aren't using them. And if you are to play Rizwan, you could have him at 4, and float him around given the game situation. Promote power hitters ahead of him, if openers get on a run. Saim Ayub one name is that potentially could take over the reigns of an opener spot. He was striking it at 97.65 in the recent ODI series.

This Pakistan journalist hit the nail-in-the head.

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Given players a cap for 'six hitting' or 'highest strike rate' . Need to stop rewarding 'averages'. And if it means bringing Bonus Points like in Australias Marsh Cup so be it. I believe the SA20 still use the Bonus Point system.

And if there was ever a circumstance for using a ‘floating batsman’ the other night when they basically needed 7 an over, it was it:

Plus here is what people need to understand. And what I will never ever understand when people make these generalisations.

Players can have all the good intentions in the world.

IF YOU ARE NOT MIDDLING THE BALL, YOU WILL NOT SCORE RUNS, QUICKLY OR OTHERWISE.

Rizwan is not, as we both know, a slogger. He scores his boundaries though fairly conventional shots compared to most t20 players and through finding gaps and occasionally simply hitting the ball over the fielders that are in the circle. He didn’t time a single ball the other night when he tried to play conventional shots and was getting squared up left right and centre by some pretty decent bowling when he just tried to defend. He was plainly seeing it like a tic tac. There was some irony in the fact that when he finally took a blind slog he actually hit it reasonably well and found the boundary.

Making the assumption that a player’s scoring rate in any given innings is simply a matter of intent is unfair. I doubt more than 2-3 balls he faced found the middle of his bat in that innings.

 

[MJG14]

Apparently Gillespie is gone. Pakistan cricket governance is comical.