3 scumbag thugs at Sunshine station

[Karl Pilkington]

It's okay Mantis. If the minority declared war on the colour grey tomorrow, you would find a way to agree with them. We get it. Stand up and have an opinion of your own.

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I'm not the biggest fan of mantis, but I think the point is clear.

If we want to deport people for bad behaviour, most of us white folk will be back in the UK before long. If any one demographic is badly behaved in Australia, it is the whites.

My solution? Kill all the white man

 

[mantis]

It's okay Mantis. If the minority declared war on the colour grey tomorrow, you would find a way to agree with them. We get it. Stand up and have an opinion of your own.

Good to see you didn't have an opinion on the horrific crime these four scumbags committed & the pathetic sentence they received. Had they been ethnics, you would have wanted them hung. I don't care what colour, or religion someone is, but anyone commiting these types of crimes, should be punished more harshly.

These four arseholes have been jailed, but they are in protective custody, bullshit, after what they did to that poor old guy, they should be in general populattion.

 

[mantis]

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I'm not the biggest fan of mantis, but I think the point is clear.

If we want to deport people for bad behaviour, most of us white folk will be back in the UK before long. If any one demographic is badly behaved in Australia, it is the whites.

My solution? Kill all the white man

Stop being silly RJ, all we need is proper sentences for all crims, no matter their race or religion.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

Stop being silly RJ, all we need is proper sentences for all crims, no matter their race or religion.

Or maybe we need stfu and let our justice department, you know the paid professionals who are experienced in this stuff, decide?

 

[medusala]

Medusala, what type of ethnic groups reside in South London?

Afro Caribbean in the main. Huge issues. The government does nothing about in large part due to memories of the Brixton riots.

 

[medusala]

MI6 consider the IRA a more likely candidate to commit terrorist bombings in London at the moment. Checking everyone's bags would make sense, regardless of race.

KP, I dont think the IRA were ever really in to suicide bombings on public transport (although I can recall one chap who accidentally blew himself up in London).

So no, I dont think it makes sense.

 

[Mr Magoo]

Following on from this story i came across this in today's sun, so is it a media beat up or not?

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25174563-2862,00.html

Sunshine shop owners arming themselves against local violence
Article from: Herald Sun

Matt Johnston

March 12, 2009 12:00am

SHOP owners in Sunshine have armed themselves in self-defence against violent criminals they say are sweeping their suburb.

Residents in the western Melbourne suburb are planning a community rally against what they say is a lack of protection and an under-staffed police force.

Abdullah Rubel, who owns a store near Sunshine train station, said the violent attack on a youth, featured in the Herald Sun last month, sadly, was not an isolated incident.

He said he had a "small stick as a symbol of defence" behind his counter, and had lost many customers who refused to stay in Sunshine.

He said a friend of his was attacked the day after the train station violence and people were sick of the constant attacks and vandalism.

Police were under-resourced in the area, he said, and after his friend was attacked, it took three hours for officers to respond.

"I said I didn't need help any more, someone could be dead by now," he said.

Sunshine Residents Association president Darlene Reilly said residents would protest at the Sunshine train station tomorrow evening to take a peaceful stand against "vicious gangs in our community".

She said she could no longer allow her children to use public transport and the community wanted action.

"We now dare those government MPs who are concerned for the welfare of this community to come out to this rally and speak to the voters of Sunshine and explain what the Government is planning to combat the increasing violence," she said.

 

[mantis]

Violence is getting worse, because kids can almost burn a man to death & only get a slap on the wrist.

 

[Vaders_1st]

Violence is getting worse, because kids can almost burn a man to death & only get a slap on the wrist.

Violence is getting worse, because the majority is getting multiculturalism shoved down our throats by a soft minority.

They think they can just toss in 500 different types of culture and hope it all gels together.

 

[skilts]

Violence is getting worse, because kids can almost burn a man to death & only get a slap on the wrist.

Much as I admire your work Mantis, I've seen no real evidence of this. In the 1950s people said the world was coming to an end because of a spate of stabbings by Italians. "They're wogs, they're dangerous, what would you expect? They'll bring about our ruination." was the reaction.

If you think these thugs at Sunshine station are something new, think of the rockers and sharpies who plagued Melbourne in the 50s and 60s. These people hadn't had a good night out unless they'd assaulted someone who was defenceless.

Despite (maybe because of) the best efforts of sociologists and social workers, not to mention cops and politicians, things are much the same as they've ever been. The difference now is that 'The Age' is the modern-day 'Truth'. The 'Herald-Sun' is all those British tabloids we used to deride. The populace is just as manipulable as ever. If I had the energy, I'd despair.

 

[mantis]

Violence is getting worse, because the majority is getting multiculturalism shoved down our throats by a soft minority.

They think they can just toss in 500 different types of culture and hope it all gels together.

OH of course, those mean, nasty immigrants made those poor, innocent white boys try to burn a man alive.

 

[skilts]

OH of course, those mean, nasty immigrants made those poor, innocent white boys try to burn a man alive.

Hmm, on second thoughts I may have just brought on an irony bypass by not reading all posts in the thread since I last looked at it. If so, many apologies Mantis.

 

[Vaders_1st]

If that man attacked by the three coloured folk was also black there would have been no attack, rest assured.

 

[mantis]

Hmm, on second thoughts I may have just brought on an irony bypass by not reading all posts in the thread since I last looked at it. If so, many apologies Mantis.

I agree that their has always been violence in Australia, I guess when I say worse, it is more the actual acts seem to be far more sadistic now & for the perpetrators entertainment. Maybe if people had phones that took videos back in the 60's the results might have been the same.

 

[mark73]

I agree that their has always been violence in Australia, I guess when I say worse, it is more the actual acts seem to be far more sadistic now & for the perpetrators entertainment. Maybe if people had phones that took videos back in the 60's the results might have been the same.

What it also is Sandie is the acts are more publicised these days. In about 1979 or thereabouts a known Melbourne criminal shot a guy dead for turning his stereo down. High as a kite.

It's just more regular these day's and more exposed. And in the end, to put the finishing touches to this thread, Lance Uppercut was right.

All 3 have been caught.

But let the hysteria continue...

 

[jiphoc]

When something like this happens you have to look at the situation from a few steps back. They are from a 3rd world country where life is cheap and the only reason they are alive today is because they are able to do what they did to that old man. Sure it was the wrong thing to do, but by prosecuting people to the full extent of the law for doing something which is only natural to who they are is wrong of us. We should instead encourage them to try fit in to the society and change.

Punish these people and there is only another 1000 others who will do the same thing given the opportunity. Fix the cultural and the seperation which is in place now and this will never happen again.

People do not realise what they have living here in Australia and how lucky we all are here. Visit a 3rd world country and people will understand more of what I am talking about.

 

[haywood jablome]

When something like this happens you have to look at the situation from a few steps back. They are from a 3rd world country where life is cheap and the only reason they are alive today is because they are able to do what they did to that old man. Sure it was the wrong thing to do, but by prosecuting people to the full extent of the law for doing something which is only natural to who they are is wrong of us. We should instead encourage them to try fit in to the society and change.

Punish these people and there is only another 1000 others who will do the same thing given the opportunity. Fix the cultural and the seperation which is in place now and this will never happen again.

People do not realise what they have living here in Australia and how lucky we all are here. Visit a 3rd world country and people will understand more of what I am talking about.

The fart I just let out is smarter than the shit you just wrote.

 

[jiphoc]

The fart I just let out is smarter than the shit you just wrote.

Spoken like a true Australian who have never left the comforts of your own country and have no life experiences in the matter but still think you are correct. You cannot base this on Australia and first world countries like I would guess you are.

 

[haywood jablome]

Spoken like a true Australian who have never left the comforts of your own country and have no life experiences in the matter but still think you are correct. You cannot base this on Australia and first world countries like I would guess you are.

You are completely wrong in your assumptions, just because someone disagrees with you does not suddenly mean they don't have all this magic information you think you posses in your magic head. I don't want to turn this into a pissing contest about how many third world countries we have visited.

You said in your post it is completely natural for the Sudanese to go around bashing the weak and robbing them. This is simply wrong and an overblown and ridiculous assumption. The majority of the Sudanese actually don't go around bashing people, it is a small few who tarnish the image of the majority (like the majority of things). Don't act like they are all damaged individuals who pick on the weak. Treat them like individuals and stop making excuses for the pathetic actions of those three men or should I say boys.

 

[jiphoc]

You are completely wrong in your assumptions, just because someone disagrees with you does not suddenly mean they don't have all this magic information you think you posses in your magic head. I don't want to turn this into a pissing contest about how many third world countries we have visited.

You said in your post it is completely natural for the Sudanese to go around bashing the weak and robbing them. This is simply wrong and an overblown and ridiculous assumption. The majority of the Sudanese actually don't go around bashing people, it is a small few who tarnish the image of the majority (like the majority of things). Don't act like they are all damaged individuals who pick on the weak. Treat them like individuals and stop making excuses for the pathetic actions of those three men or should I say boys.

There backgrounds are full of violence and in some of there cases the only reason they are alive is by doing acts such as this one. You cannot hide that fact.

Those who have been to Africa know that life over there is cheap and sometimes it is hard to get that concept out of people who grew up in that kind of culture. Yes it is the minority which act out such as this but ask yourself why they do it. Instead of, like a lot of the Australian's who I talk to, think in bring down the full extent of the law on them we help them adapt to our society and how in our society it is wrong and unnecessary you will stop this from the core of the problem. Maybe they needed money or a way to support themselves? We need to help them understand that places such as centerlink need to be utilize and that you should not be afraid to use it.

 

[haywood jablome]

There backgrounds are full of violence and in some of there cases the only reason they are alive is by doing acts such as this one. You cannot hide that fact.

Those who have been to Africa know that life over there is cheap and sometimes it is hard to get that concept out of people who grew up in that kind of culture. Yes it is the minority which act out such as this but ask yourself why they do it. Instead of, like a lot of the Australian's who I talk to, think in bring down the full extent of the law on them we help them adapt to our society and how in our society it is wrong and unnecessary you will stop this from the core of the problem. Maybe they needed money or a way to support themselves? We need to help them understand that places such as centerlink need to be utilize and that you should not be afraid to use it.

Um.. You can't be serious... Wow.. You are basically excusing criminals and removing any self-blame from the perpetrators. Hey it's ok that guy just robbed and bashed that grandma, he needed money to fix his crack habit. Instead of putting him in jail lets send him to a psychologist and get to the bottom of why he did it. I'm sorry but what you are saying is incredibly stupid and apologetic to every single criminal. Do you REALLY think the 3 thugs thought what they were doing was OK? Imagine a society where every criminal got counselling instead of being locked up in jail, what a joy that would be.

 

[jiphoc]

Um.. You can't be serious... Wow.. You are basically excusing criminals and removing any self-blame from the perpetrators. Hey it's ok that guy just robbed and bashed that grandma, he needed money to fix his crack habit. Instead of putting him in jail lets send him to a psychologist and get to the bottom of why he did it. I'm sorry but what you are saying is incredibly stupid and apologetic to every single criminal. Do you REALLY think the 3 thugs thought what they were doing was OK? Imagine a society where every criminal got counselling instead of being locked up in jail, what a joy that would be.

More and more I get the feeling you have never left the country and am not grasping what I am saying. Have a think to these peoples background. How many times they most likely have been opened up to war from there earliest memory. All the people they could have seen killed in front of them. Maybe they had to hurt someone in order to survive themselves. This is a small part of what these people left behind. Habits formed from growing up like this is hard to break in a few short years. If you want to be cold hearted to people like this who have had the WORST up bringing on earth then that is fine it just says more about you and the type of person you are.

I on the other hand have seen this to a certain degree in South Africa with the Zimbabwe crisis which is currently going on and I know that by just blindly punishing these people you will acheive nothing.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

jiphoc, your heart is in the right place and you show a basic understanding of some of the issues that can contribute to crime in Australia amongst ethnic groups from war torn countries, but the way you're expressing it si bordering on patronising.

 

[Daytripper]

Maybe they needed money or a way to support themselves? We need to help them understand that places such as centerlink need to be utilize and that you should not be afraid to use it.

One of the stupidist things I've read on this Board.

Do you really think they don't know where the local Centrelink office is ?

They've all got ipods, mobile phones, the best sneakers, jackets etc - they are not some tribesman from central Mozambique.

 

[Barry Zuckercorn]

When something like this happens you have to look at the situation from a few steps back. They are from a 3rd world country where life is cheap and the only reason they are alive today is because they are able to do what they did to that old man. Sure it was the wrong thing to do, but by prosecuting people to the full extent of the law for doing something which is only natural to who they are is wrong of us. We should instead encourage them to try fit in to the society and change.

Punish these people and there is only another 1000 others who will do the same thing given the opportunity. Fix the cultural and the seperation which is in place now and this will never happen again.

People do not realise what they have living here in Australia and how lucky we all are here. Visit a 3rd world country and people will understand more of what I am talking about.

Good troll