Play Nice 46th President of the United States: Joe Biden 2: Incidit in scyllam cupiens vitare charybdim

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GreyCrow said:
Latest is scuttlebut that Joe is going to issue pre-emptive pardons for people like Fauci and Cheney and others for doing their job


Many of his recent threats targeted prosecutors who charged him with crimes: Smith, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

He has publicly called for investigations into prominent lawmakers: Cheney and the rest of the January 6 committee members (who he said “should go to jail”), former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (for her supposed “ties to Russia”), Senator-elect Adam Schiff (for his role in the Trump-Ukraine impeachment saga) and a host of other Democratic lawmakers.

Still, members of Congress have immunity from the Constitution’s “speech or debate clause” that offers such broad protections for their legislative work that even members of the defunct January 6 committee would be unlikely to take seriously any legal threats.

Trump also has said Vice President Kamala Harris “should be … prosecuted” for letting undocumented immigrants into the country. After the election, Trump called for probes of Iowa pollster Ann Selzer (for “election fraud,” by releasing a poll with Harris ahead), and into stock traders who spread “illegal rumors” about his investment in Truth Social.

During his first term, some of Trump’s calls for probes were apparently heeded, leading to investigations into 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, former FBI director James Comey, and former FBI deputy director Andy McCabe, now a CNN contributor.
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Mccabe and comey got special irs audits
 
GreyCrow said:
Latest is scuttlebut that Joe is going to issue pre-emptive pardons for people like Fauci and Cheney and others for doing their job


Many of his recent threats targeted prosecutors who charged him with crimes: Smith, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

He has publicly called for investigations into prominent lawmakers: Cheney and the rest of the January 6 committee members (who he said “should go to jail”), former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (for her supposed “ties to Russia”), Senator-elect Adam Schiff (for his role in the Trump-Ukraine impeachment saga) and a host of other Democratic lawmakers.

Still, members of Congress have immunity from the Constitution’s “speech or debate clause” that offers such broad protections for their legislative work that even members of the defunct January 6 committee would be unlikely to take seriously any legal threats.

Trump also has said Vice President Kamala Harris “should be … prosecuted” for letting undocumented immigrants into the country. After the election, Trump called for probes of Iowa pollster Ann Selzer (for “election fraud,” by releasing a poll with Harris ahead), and into stock traders who spread “illegal rumors” about his investment in Truth Social.

During his first term, some of Trump’s calls for probes were apparently heeded, leading to investigations into 2016 Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, former FBI director James Comey, and former FBI deputy director Andy McCabe, now a CNN contributor.
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What's Fauci done that would require a pardon?
 

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rank and file said:
What's Fauci done that would require a pardon?
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Thats what I don't get, didn't actually realise they could do pre-emptive pardons with no existing charges or convictions. What a system lol

What would the wording on the pardon be? Like I'm sure if Fauci got pre-emptive one he wouldn't then be able to then go a commit all the crimes he likes lol
 
bourbons said:
Thats what I don't get, didn't actually realise they could do pre-emptive pardons with no existing charges or convictions. What a system lol

What would the wording on the pardon be? Like I'm sure if Fauci got pre-emptive one he wouldn't then be able to then go a commit all the crimes he likes lol
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Hunters was a blanket pardon for a past time period. From memory when I read the other day they used a similar thing (albeit for a shorter time period) for Nixon to stop any real blowback from Watergate.

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Pardon of Richard Nixon - Wikipedia

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bourbons said:
Thats what I don't get, didn't actually realise they could do pre-emptive pardons with no existing charges or convictions. What a system lol

What would the wording on the pardon be? Like I'm sure if Fauci got pre-emptive one he wouldn't then be able to then go a commit all the crimes he likes lol
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faible said:
Hunters was a blanket pardon for a past time period. From memory when I read the other day they used a similar thing (albeit for a shorter time period) for Nixon to stop any real blowback from Watergate.

en.wikipedia.org

Pardon of Richard Nixon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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faible is correct.

Nixon was never charged. The pardon was for all crimes he may have committed while president.
 
zumahawk said:
If even some of those pardons take place all hell will break lose and Trump will lose his mind. I do think though it makes sense and some of it may happen.
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Honestly I don't think so. He'll pivot his attacks (unironically) to the pardon thing. He's not emotionally invested at all in this recrafted culture war. The target now is not marginalized sections of the country, it's political and cultural opponents real and imagined.
 
Spearman said:
Honestly I don't think so. He'll pivot his attacks (unironically) to the pardon thing. He's not emotionally invested at all in this recrafted culture war. The target now is not marginalized sections of the country, it's political and cultural opponents real and imagined.
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AND GRIFT
 
sdfc said:
Apparently the Bidens can't possibly be corrupt because Trump.
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The straw man - a well-worn Trumpie go-to.
 

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sdfc said:
So you agree Hunter's stint at Burisma was dodgy and looks even dodgier now.
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Yes, it was dodgy. Haven't seen any claims to the contrary. Not sure how the pardon makes it any more so, though.

Pathetic attempt at a gotcha after a pathetic straw man argument. You Trumpies are such hypocrites.
 
LuvtheKangas said:
Yes, it was dodgy. Haven't seen any claims to the contrary. Not sure how the pardon makes it any more so, though.

Pathetic attempt at a gotcha after a pathetic straw man argument. You Trumpies are such hypocrites.
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Of course Hunter's pardon being backdated to the start of his Burisma time makes it dodgier.
 
sdfc said:
Of course Hunter's pardon being backdated to the start of his Burisma time makes it dodgier.
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LOL, only for the slower ones amongst us.

We've already agreed Burisma was dodgy, so it makes sense for the pardon to cover it.

Anyway, what's the point you're making? Are you suggesting Burisma wasn't that dodgy really, until the pardon? Why were Trumpies so focused on Burisma if they didn't think it was dodgy before the pardon? What does "more dodgy" add to dodgy? Is it like the difference between really bad and really, really bad?
 
LuvtheKangas said:
LOL, only for the slower ones amongst us.

We've already agreed Burisma was dodgy, so it makes sense for the pardon to cover it.

Anyway, what's the point you're making? Are you suggesting Burisma wasn't that dodgy really, until the pardon? Why were Trumpies so focused on Burisma if they didn't think it was dodgy before the pardon? What does "more dodgy" add to dodgy? Is it like the difference between really bad and really, really bad?
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So you agree with me. You should have just said that in the first place. It would have taken less words.
 
sdfc said:
So you agree with me. You should have just said that in the first place. It would have taken less words.
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And here are the low comprehension skills. Congratulations, you've demonstrated the complete Trumpie package.
 
I've ruminated on it since he did it, and I've finally come to a conclusion I'm happy with.

Biden pardoning his son might be understandable, but it constitutes an utter betrayal of everything he purported to have stood for. He now stands not only as a hypocrite of the worst sort, but alongside Trump as someone who used his high office to benefit himself and who used his overwhelming power in his own self interest. By his own actions, he demeans the office he was elected to, and perpetuates the class dichotomies within the American system; money talks.

His party must now reflect on the fact that this man - their elder statesman, their middle of the road candidate, their moderate sop to middle America - has by this choice declared their side of the class divide to be that of the wealthy, the owners, and not the people they say they represent. They have a nigh impossible task to win the next election - beyond their feebleness, beyond any shenanigans Trump or the GOP seek to do - because they are so exposed as similarly opportunistic in this decision.

By this singular act, Joe Biden has disgraced himself and his party potentially beyond repair.
 

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