Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: Here we go again!

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[Bloods86]

haha I was just in Savannah yesterday, am in Charleston now. many cool bars in Savannah, didn't make that one but had a great time anyway. beaut place.

PM'd a few of my top picks.

And a list of polling places the Dems say have less scrutiny, hope it helps.

 

[Blue1980]

There’s too much wrong with this to comment on each mistake.

So as usual, you've got nothing.

 

[Saint Shags]

ive already voted 4 times for Harris in the past 3 days, they haven't asked once for my ID. and the best part is, im not even a US citizen!

I wonder if I posted and tagged Leon on an X post with this screenshotted would he run with it?

 

[Borough Blood]

So as usual, you've got nothing.

Stop ganging up on him and expect him to back up statements with pesky evidence.

 

[Blue1980]

Stop ganging up on him and expect him to back up statements with pesky evidence.

I at least got him to stop referencing Peter Thiel as a positive influence on Trump's inner circle. Not that he admitted he was wrong or anything.

 

[Jamolad]

Wrong, this happened in Texas since they changed their laws.

Josseli Barnica grieved the news as she lay in a Houston hospital bed on Sept. 3, 2021: The sibling she’d dreamt of giving her daughter would not survive this pregnancy.

The fetus was on the verge of coming out, its head pressed against her dilated cervix; she was 17 weeks pregnant and a miscarriage was “in progress,” doctors noted in hospital records. At that point, they should have offered to speed up the delivery or empty her uterus to stave off a deadly infection, more than a dozen medical experts told ProPublica.

But when Barnica’s husband rushed to her side from his job on a construction site, she relayed what she said the medical team had told her: “They had to wait until there was no heartbeat,” he told ProPublica in Spanish. “It would be a crime to give her an abortion.”

For 40 hours, the anguished 28-year-old mother prayed for doctors to help her get home to her daughter; all the while, her uterus remained exposed to bacteria.

Three days after she delivered, Barnica died of an infection.

A Texas Woman Died After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.

www.propublica.org

So after all the waiting, the anticipation, all the promises (and the concept)...this is Trump's health plan?

 

[Present Not Past]

It’s ridiculous that in life threaten situations they are even worried about legal issues. There should be sensible abortion laws.

There was.

 

[big_e]

How anyone can support this man and not be incredibly embarrassed by it will forever be beyond me.

That side of politics loves to crap on about "snowflakes" being "triggered" but JFC, is Trump the most insecure person on the planet?

 

[Royces Hart]

How anyone can support this man and not be incredibly embarrassed by it will forever be beyond me.

“In any event, that affected him greatly”

Everything is a projection with this lump of shit.

 

[Not Important]

vance would not act as honourably. remember that.

 

[Chief]

“In any event, that affected him greatly”

Everything is a projection with this lump of shit.

He capitalises the word Television like it's a brand new invention. I suppose, like the Radio and Women's Suffrage, it was brand new in his lifetime.

 

[JackOutback]

I will be very surprised if he doesn’t win, and I think he is the better option of the two.

I'm genuinely curious why you think this.

Trump has been convicted of 34 felonies relating to falsifying business records around hush money he paid to a woman he had an affair with, he's facing further charges over attempting to overthrow the results of an election, he's been found in court on the basis of probabilities to have sexually assaulted a woman. At any other time in history, any one of these issues would have disqualified him from running. The only way to not only think he should be allowed to run but is also the better option of the two is to a) not believe them to be true, which would require a deep dive down the conspiracy rabbit hole, or b) not care.

He was responsible for one of the most shambolic COVID responses, which left one million of his own citizens dead, the economy performed well under him at first but then tanked (now obviously COVID was a factor, but Biden's economic track record is also pretty good, having come out of cost of living factors that were likewise beyond his control), evidence shows Democrats have outperformed Republicans on the economy over the last 30 years, people claim he didn't start wars but as evidenced in this thread, he dropped significantly more drone bombs than Obama and made decisions that certainly exacerbated conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East (embassy in Jerusalum, for example).

He has described immigrants as animals, lied about them eating pets, referred to his own citizens as the enemy within, says he wants to utilise the army against people in his own country (it's interesting that Republicans clutch their pearls when they think Biden called all supporters garbage, even though he immediately clarified, while ignoring Trump's comments when he refuses to recant and often doubles down). He lies constantly, refuses to acknowledge he lost an election, has an insanely thin skin.

So again, I'm genuinely curious why you think he's the better option because from where I'm sitting, it's hard to find a reason beyond being conspiracy minded, misinformed, ideologically bound or in agreement with a lot of the shit I just posted above.

 

[TheSunGod]

I'm genuinely curious why you think this.

Trump has been convicted of 34 felonies relating to falsifying business records around hush money he paid to a woman he had an affair with, he's facing further charges over attempting to overthrow the results of an election, he's been found in court on the basis of probabilities to have sexually assaulted a woman. At any other time in history, any one of these issues would have disqualified him from running. The only way to not only think he should be allowed to run but is also the better option of the two is to a) not believe them to be true, which would require a deep dive down the conspiracy rabbit hole, or b) not care.

He was responsible for one of the most shambolic COVID responses, which left one million of his own citizens dead, the economy performed well under him at first but then tanked (now obviously COVID was a factor, but Biden's economic track record is also pretty good, having come out of cost of living factors that were likewise beyond his control), evidence shows Democrats have outperformed Republicans on the economy over the last 30 years, people claim he didn't start wars but as evidenced in this thread, he dropped significantly more drone bombs than Obama and made decisions that certainly exacerbated conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East (embassy in Jerusalum, for example).

He has described immigrants as animals, lied about them eating pets, referred to his own citizens as the enemy within, says he wants to utilise the army against people in his own country (it's interesting that Republicans clutch their pearls when they think Biden called all supporters garbage, even though he immediately clarified, while ignoring Trump's comments when he refuses to recant and often doubles down). He lies constantly, refuses to acknowledge he lost an election, has an insanely thin skin.

So again, I'm genuinely curious why you think he's the better option because from where I'm sitting, it's hard to find a reason beyond being conspiracy minded, misinformed, ideologically bound or in agreement with a lot of the shit I just posted above.

On top of all the great points you’ve mentioned and many, many more not mentioned, the dude is 78 years old for God’s sake, the oldest presidential nominee ever and is clearly on the decline.
I think the reasons people would choose him over Kamala has to be because they don’t believe a woman can do a better job than a man and/or she’s not white.
If Harris loses, it will be because of the fear, racism and misogyny that has propelled Trump’s campaign. That has to be it. It can’t be anything else.
Harris is clearly more qualified and competent than DonOld in every way. It’s really quite incredible he’s allowed to run.
The Americans really need to consult with the AEC on how to fix their electoral system.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

I feel like doctors have the knowledge and courage to differentiate between abortion and miscarriage.
And yes I’ve been in a similar situation.

Doctors can differentiate but the Law can't.
The poor woman in Texas suffered a miscarriage at 17 weeks , Doctors had to wait until there wasn't a heartbeat before they performed her health care ( Texas Law). This took 40 hours and exposed her to risk of infection - she became infected and passed away 3 days later.

 

[Gough]

Doctors can differentiate but the Law can't.
The poor woman in Texas suffered a miscarriage at 17 weeks , Doctors had to wait until there wasn't a heartbeat before they performed her health care ( Texas Law). This took 40 hours and exposed her to risk of infection - she became infected and passed away 3 days later.

God's will, thoughts and prayers.

 

[troybe]

This is cringe on so many levels. The Kennedy name used to command a bit of respect now he’s a laughing stock involving himself with the fellow “thugs”

 

[Zidane98]

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This is cringe on so many levels. The Kennedy name used to command a bit of respect now he’s a laughing stock involving himself with the fellow “thugs”

Image is missing Putin

 

[troybe]

Image is missing Putin

Put in, Vlad then

 

[liz]

I'm genuinely curious why you think this.

Trump has been convicted of 34 felonies relating to falsifying business records around hush money he paid to a woman he had an affair with, he's facing further charges over attempting to overthrow the results of an election, he's been found in court on the basis of probabilities to have sexually assaulted a woman. At any other time in history, any one of these issues would have disqualified him from running. The only way to not only think he should be allowed to run but is also the better option of the two is to a) not believe them to be true, which would require a deep dive down the conspiracy rabbit hole, or b) not care.

He was responsible for one of the most shambolic COVID responses, which left one million of his own citizens dead, the economy performed well under him at first but then tanked (now obviously COVID was a factor, but Biden's economic track record is also pretty good, having come out of cost of living factors that were likewise beyond his control), evidence shows Democrats have outperformed Republicans on the economy over the last 30 years, people claim he didn't start wars but as evidenced in this thread, he dropped significantly more drone bombs than Obama and made decisions that certainly exacerbated conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East (embassy in Jerusalum, for example).

He has described immigrants as animals, lied about them eating pets, referred to his own citizens as the enemy within, says he wants to utilise the army against people in his own country (it's interesting that Republicans clutch their pearls when they think Biden called all supporters garbage, even though he immediately clarified, while ignoring Trump's comments when he refuses to recant and often doubles down). He lies constantly, refuses to acknowledge he lost an election, has an insanely thin skin.

So again, I'm genuinely curious why you think he's the better option because from where I'm sitting, it's hard to find a reason beyond being conspiracy minded, misinformed, ideologically bound or in agreement with a lot of the shit I just posted above.

You could add that his best mate,Elon, has come out and said that Trump’s economic policies will deliberately cause hardship, presumably to allow parasites like Musk himself to cream off an even larger share of the nation’s wealth.

And though he’s tried to walk it back, the House leader has reportedly let slip that Trump plans to abolish ObamaCare.

Not to mention “their little secret”, which sounds like a plan to have Trump inaugurated regardless of whether he wins the EC.

Oh, and continuous efforts to undermine the faith of the American people in the electoral process despite no evidence that it has ever been materially compromised.

 

[Spearman]

I feel like doctors have the knowledge and courage to differentiate between abortion and miscarriage.
And yes I’ve been in a similar situation.

They are taking it out of the hands of the doctors. The doctors are too afraid of being charged. That's the point of much of the state abortion laws.
And also to the bounty-hunter laws in TX.

 

[JackOutback]

he's already going hard on "election fraud' in PA, he knows he's cooked there already. Im in the States, have been in GA and SC this past week. I'm pretty confident Harris will win this election.

Wish I had your confidence. Betting odds are well in his favour and they have only been wrong twice in 130 years. I get that betting and polling come from different places, but it's not looking great.

 

[awaremind]

They are taking it out of the hands of the doctors. The doctors are too afraid of being charged. That's the point of much of the state abortion laws.
And also to the bounty-hunter laws in TX.

Listening to JR - JD interview - he says they are going to leave it to the states making it a non issue at the federal issue. Sounds fair.

 

[Spearman]

sadly they are not

What you got is an AFL level of law making when it comes to states drafting abortion laws. They have no clue as to the consequences of what they are writing down.

 

[campbell]

THIS is what we are all (at least most of us) arguing for and what campbell was posting about.

It is a shame that some posters don't see that health care is not just about 'abortion on call'.

Some, seem to think abortion care, is a women deciding to get rid of a fetus prior to term.
Nope

It is way more that that.

A women can be miscarrying, and cant get the d and c needed to evacuate the remnants of that fetus. Thus she becomes septic and dies.

Drs are-not allowed by law in some states to provide normal health care needed for women.

 

[Spearman]

Listening to JR - JD interview - he says they are going to leave it to the states making it a non issue at the federal issue. Sounds fair.

Haven't you noticed already the problems with each state doing its own thing. Women are having to travel to other states for basic care. So some states are mulling over closing the borders to anyone traveling to get health care. The case in OH with the child r*ped by a family member, remember? Women are going to die because these pricks are playing silly buggers with this issue.
That is why there has to be a federal law covering this. The states are too far apart on theirs.