Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: Here we go again!

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[Xtreme]

Whens the big move to the US of A Xtreme ? You are wasted here down under

Get Albo to sack Rudd the dud and hire me. I'll make Australia and USA relations great again.

 

[Coolangatta]

Arnie the better action hero and the better conservative.

Guess there’s a few closet Trump supporters feeling emboldened.

I heard S2 of Tulsa King was a downgrade from S1. After Sly's ridiculous Rocky-Jesus-Washington comparison comments, I'm going to pass on it.

 

[jatz14]

Get Albo to sack Rudd the dud and hire me. I'll make Australia and USA relations great again.

Trump has enough duck suckers. What would make you special?

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[magpie_marty]

Trump certainly has assembled a who's who of political movers and shakers.
Just needs to get Lauren Boebert in and bring back my girl Kayleigh in some capacity and he'll have a political force that is far better than the Howard/Rudd/Gillard/Rudd/Turnbull governments. And better than the 01-03 Brisbane Lions, 92 USA Basketball dream team... teams!!!!

Wouldn't hurt to get Elon Musk in as secretary of social media!

Tad confused X would you be able to expand and explain Trumps nominations and the experience and skills they have please?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Tad confused X would you be able to expand and explain Trumps nominations and the experience and skills they have please?

Let's just say that X's is a "simplistic" analysis, at best.

 

[troybe]

And how many will go the distance and last the 4 years?

 

[Romeoh1]

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And how many will go the distance and last the 4 years?

My money is on none of them.

 

[Satan]

My money is on none of them.

trump if he hasnt keeled over

 

[Coolangatta]

Surely this has to be deliberate sabotage? I mean like if Putin and Xi could pick who they want to bring America to its knees, it’d look something like what Trump is doing.

 

[Present Not Past]

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And how many will go the distance and last the 4 years?

This is the shock to the system that America needs to rid itself of the MAGA addiction.
It will however be a tough two years.
May your God protect you all.

 

[Dirty_banchez]

Get Albo to sack Rudd the dud and hire me. I'll make Australia and USA relations great again.

Do you want to sack Rudd because Sky News said so?

 

[sdfc]

Do you want to sack Rudd because Sky News said so?

It was an appalling lack of judgement on Rudd's behalf.

If Trump wants him gone there's no point keeping him there.

 

[Xtreme]

Do you want to sack Rudd because Sky News said so?

It's very bad optics to keep someone in a role where they have done nothing but bad mouth the person that now happens to run thr country that he's bases in.

And Rudd is a weasel for trying to delete those tweets as though they never happened.

 

[Episode IV]

So when they become citizens - as many have in the past and will in the future - they cease being hated, rapists, criminals and all the rest?

I don't think you're really aware of the scale of the problem in the USA, Chief. Not many around here really are... most live far away in Australia, and are free to sit back and discuss the moral issues on a forum far removed from any actual involvement.
So I'm not sure if you want a serious answer or not, here. If you do, I can give you one. Lots of graphs and charts, a bit of analysis, my usual method... you know, peddling actual information rather than engaging in the rhetoric.

If you want the short answer, it would be that you really need to stop focusing on the bullshit.

Look, if there is one thing the Democrats and the Republicans agree on, it's that illegal immigration is a problem, particularly on the Southern land border. No one (with knowledge of the situation and in the USA, with any authority) is disputing that.
A further thing the Republicans and some Democrats agree on is that one of the best ways to address the problem of illegal immigration is to make them not want to come. The Republicans and the Democrats don't agree on the best way to make them not want to come, however.

One of the most (if not the most) effective methods is to make them feel unwelcome.

Enter Trump.

A quick statistic. In December 2023, during the last phases of the Biden administration, Illegal "encounters" at the Southern border with Mexico reached a historic high of approximately 250,000. A quarter of a million attempts, in one month.
That's from the Pew Research Centre (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...-s-mexico-border-have-fallen-sharply-in-2024/).
In August 2024, at the height of the Presidential election campaign, it fell to a record low of just under 60,000.

Like it or not, Trump is very effective in reducing numbers of illegal arrivals in the USA - without having to lift a finger.

So with regard to your question, the answer is - at this point in time, it matters not a jot.

 

[Present Not Past]

Get Albo to sack Rudd the dud and hire me. I'll make Australia and USA relations great again.

“It is better to stay silent and let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”​

 

[Present Not Past]

The problem with the up coming Trump Presidency is that it doesn't represent anything American.
The people have been sold a fake US President..

 

[jatz14]

I don't think you're really aware of the scale of the problem in the USA, Chief. Not many around here really are... most live far away in Australia, and are free to sit back and discuss the moral issues on a forum far removed from any actual involvement.
So I'm not sure if you want a serious answer or not, here. If you do, I can give you one. Lots of graphs and charts, a bit of analysis, my usual method... you know, peddling actual information rather than engaging in the rhetoric.

If you want the short answer, it would be that you really need to stop focusing on the bullshit.

Look, if there is one thing the Democrats and the Republicans agree on, it's that illegal immigration is a problem, particularly on the Southern land border. No one (with knowledge of the situation and in the USA, with any authority) is disputing that.
A further thing the Republicans and some Democrats agree on is that one of the best ways to address the problem of illegal immigration is to make them not want to come. The Republicans and the Democrats don't agree on the best way to make them not want to come, however.

One of the most (if not the most) effective methods is to make them feel unwelcome.

Enter Trump.

A quick statistic. In December 2023, during the last phases of the Biden administration, Illegal "encounters" at the Southern border with Mexico reached a historic high of approximately 250,000. A quarter of a million attempts, in one month.
That's from the Pew Research Centre (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...-s-mexico-border-have-fallen-sharply-in-2024/).
In August 2024, at the height of the Presidential election campaign, it fell to a record low of just under 60,000.

Like it or not, Trump is very effective in reducing numbers of illegal arrivals in the USA - without having to lift a finger.

So with regard to your question, the answer is - at this point in time, it matters not a jot.

I agree, if the sight of Trump and Trumps cabinet doesn't stop people wanting to come to the US, nothing will.

Of course, if it doesn't stop all people, the people it will not stop are the really poor and desperate. The foreign engineers, tech specialists and scientists America is built on, they will stop coming.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I don't think you're really aware of the scale of the problem in the USA, Chief. Not many around here really are... most live far away in Australia, and are free to sit back and discuss the moral issues on a forum far removed from any actual involvement.
So I'm not sure if you want a serious answer or not, here. If you do, I can give you one. Lots of graphs and charts, a bit of analysis, my usual method... you know, peddling actual information rather than engaging in the rhetoric.

If you want the short answer, it would be that you really need to stop focusing on the bullshit.

Look, if there is one thing the Democrats and the Republicans agree on, it's that illegal immigration is a problem, particularly on the Southern land border. No one (with knowledge of the situation and in the USA, with any authority) is disputing that.
A further thing the Republicans and some Democrats agree on is that one of the best ways to address the problem of illegal immigration is to make them not want to come. The Republicans and the Democrats don't agree on the best way to make them not want to come, however.

One of the most (if not the most) effective methods is to make them feel unwelcome.

Enter Trump.

A quick statistic. In December 2023, during the last phases of the Biden administration, Illegal "encounters" at the Southern border with Mexico reached a historic high of approximately 250,000. A quarter of a million attempts, in one month.
That's from the Pew Research Centre (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...-s-mexico-border-have-fallen-sharply-in-2024/).
In August 2024, at the height of the Presidential election campaign, it fell to a record low of just under 60,000.

Like it or not, Trump is very effective in reducing numbers of illegal arrivals in the USA - without having to lift a finger.

So with regard to your question, the answer is - at this point in time, it matters not a jot.

Painting Trump as the only one who can reduce illegals entering the US conveniently ignores the blocking of the bipartisan Border Bill (twice) earlier this year by Republicans, even though it was introduced by Republicans, because Trump didn't want it passed (for purely political reasons).

 

[Episode IV]

I agree, if the sight of Trump and Trumps cabinet doesn't stop people wanting to come to the US, nothing will.

Of course, if it doesn't stop all people, the people it will not stop are the really poor and desperate. The foreign engineers, tech specialists and scientists America is built on, they will stop coming.

I'd argue that it's the other way around. Skilled migrants can usually get in to the USA via legal channels, there isn't any need for them to enter illegally.

The hundreds of thousands on the border crossings aren't generally going to have high ratios of skilled migrants among them. That's one of the reasons the huge numbers entering illegally are such a problem.

 

[Episode IV]

Painting Trump as the only one who can reduce illegals entering the US conveniently ignores the blocking of the bipartisan Border Bill (twice) earlier this year by Republicans, even though it was introduced by Republicans, because Trump didn't want it passed (for purely political reasons).

I can think of quite a few reasons that Bill wasn't passed, beyond the purely political.

Have you even bothered to try to?

 

[liz]

I can think of quite a few reasons that Bill wasn't passed, beyond the purely political.

Have you even bothered to try to?

Why don’t you share those with us. Enlighten us.

 

[jatz14]

I can think of quite a few reasons that Bill wasn't passed, beyond the purely political.

Have you even bothered to try to?

That you can think of reasons, doesn't make those reasons valid.