4th Ashes Test England v Australia July 19-23 1930hrs @ Old Trafford

[Santana]

And people didn’t like Justin Langer (including the players who could only dream of having his mental toughness)

Are you forgetting the bouncer feast we had on the last day against India 2 years ago in Sydney?

I've said before that it feels like we are the same team tactically under McDonald than with Langer.

I said when Langer was going that it'd be nice to at least do a proper search for a new coach all around the world. Not even sure if they bothered and just went with one of the boys. Really feels like CA has zero imagination. Hate England but at least they go looking far and wide for a head coach and most of their most successful ones the last 20 years have been foreigners. India's most successful one was a foreigner too during that time. Just because Arthur didn't work out doesn't mean we should limit ourselves

 

[The 747]

Reckon we should put a few out and go the short ball this morning.

 

[Santana]

It has to be Head.

If Cummins said to the board "look, I've had two years at the job and done my best. It's time to hand it on so I can solely focus on my bowling", would any of us hold it against him?

I wouldn't.

From that list it has to be Head. Green still has a lot to work out in his game.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Screw this

Looking at the radar we'll get a full day's play today

Rain all gone before it matters

 

[irish]

This is what happens when you favour a genx coach because you don’t like the truth . We are soft as butter
Cummins , how did it go ? Carnt bowl , carnt bat , carnt catch ! Wtf is going on here

Poms will blast us around to lunch then bowl us out before the rain comes. We have no balls to fight it out
Will fold like cards

 

[Donnie Darko]

I dont think there will be enough time to force a result but all England can do is go all-out attack for a session and a half.
maybe get a 200+ lead and then see if there is time to get the wickets.

 

[The Passenger]

Reckon we should put a few out and go the short ball this morning.

Short to Brook for sure. Leg theory.

Nothing at Stokes body. 6th-7th stump line. The (should have been) Crawley line but maybe a little fuller. Stokes is a hard one though cause his array of shots is so vast. Pack the off side field.

The first priority is to slow down the scoring. They put on 30 from the last 10 overs last night and we should aim to get something close to that.

 

[Santana]

I dont think there will be enough time to force a result but all England can do is go all-out attack for a session and a half.
maybe get a 200+ lead and then see if there is time to get the wickets.

There is still a very good chance for a England win. We will have to bat out at least 100 overs

 

[frankrizzo]

Screw this

Looking at the radar we'll get a full day's play today

Rain all gone before it matters

Even a place at wet as Manchester wasnt going to see enough time lost to save this match for us, if we just had an average two days maybe but first two days were so bad england really dont need that much time now to force a result.

 

[Santana]

Are you a shill account? you joined few months ago and seems like bulk of your posts are about sports betting and the odds.

I originally thought he was just a wind up account but being a sports betting shill account is a pretty good call.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Anyone actually know whether the weather will be a factor tonight? Can take it Saturday will be wiped out, but seems like plenty of time today and Sunday for them to humilate us because we are entirely incapable of batting three sessions....

Looks probably clear today, Saturday and Sunday may well be both no play possible. They may (20% chance perhaps) also be no play required.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Reckon we should put a few out and go the short ball this morning.

 

[The Passenger]

Not sure who this person is but they're on point most of the time and they are again here.

I wouldn't let us fully off the hook for yesterday but I don't think doing anything different at the selection table changes much. We didn't cop any luck with Crawley early in his innings. That was streaky as ****. Fair play he took full advantage, but 9 times out of 10 he is walking back to the pavilion with the score around 2/30 and the pressure would have really been on then.

 

[Portmagpies36]

I dont think there will be enough time to force a result but all England can do is go all-out attack for a session and a half.
maybe get a 200+ lead and then see if there is time to get the wickets.

It will be finished by today

 

[danielnajdek]

For the rain to even be a factor we have to get to day 4 and I have no confidence in our batting at all.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

It will be finished by today

Yeah can feel an epic Aussie collapse happening, momentum is gone

 

[mike ross]

Yeah can feel an epic Aussie collapse happening, momentum is gone

I'd say it's more mentally shot now than momentum.

 

[The 747]

Yeah can feel an epic Aussie collapse happening, momentum is gone

Yeah we are massive front runners, have been for a long long time. Fortunately we are usually in front.

 

[The King!]

no more stupid fields please

roll them quick, game on

 

[Peter Bixley]

I thought we pulled it back a bit last night with the two late wickets and slowed the run-rate a bit. Hopefully the lads have had a good sleep and mentally reset. The odd ball is keeping low, but essentially this is a very good batting pitch still. We still have a job to do - take early wickets, slow them down. If we can get out of arrears then every run we add will mean that England need time in the middle to chalk them off. We can save this game.

 

[010203]

The Australian batsman will have to put a price on their wickets when the time comes to bat. I think England will bat for an hour with the aim of getting the lead to 150-160 and then declare.

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

Just my thoughts. I would open the batting in the second innings with Mitchell Marsh. We need to get off to a flying start. Look at how Zak Crawley has set the tempo for England in this series, particularly in this riveting innings of his. We need this. Have Warner bat with the lower order/tail. Then he might have a chance of making a better score. I thought we should have gone into this test with Marsh opening the batting, dropping Warner, and keeping Murphy. I believe we need to do this for the 5th Test. It was idiotic, illogical, and statistically wrong to drop Murphy. The fast bowlers can only bowl so many overs. With no Murphy, it puts a major strain on the side, hence why we have looked inept in this innings.

 

[The King!]

Just my thoughts. I would open the batting in the second innings with Mitchell Marsh. We need to get off to a flying start. Look at how Zak Crawley has set the tempo for England in this series, particularly in this riveting innings of his. We need this. Have Warner bat with the lower order/tail. Then he might have a chance of making a better score. I thought we should have gone into this test with Marsh opening the batting, dropping Warner, and keeping Murphy. I believe we need to do this for the 5th Test. It was idiotic, illogical, and statistically wrong to drop Murphy. The fast bowlers can only bowl so many overs. With no Murphy, it puts a major strain on the side, hence why we have looked inept in this innings.

The frustrating part is Warner is one of the most aggressive openers in test history .


A strike rate of 70 etc

where's that guy

 

[The 747]

The frustrating part is Warner is one of the most aggressive openers in test history .


A strike rate of 70 etc

where's that guy

He went out with a big suspension in 2018.

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

The frustrating part is Warner is one of the most aggressive openers in test history .


A strike rate of 70 etc

where's that guy

I know. I'm talking like he's Sunil Gavaskar, when he's just about the most successful aggressive opener there has ever been. It is so sad to see. That said, he did play a lot more positively in the first innings, but Marsh is just in sublime form, and I think he would do a great job setting the tone for us.