4th Ashes Test England v Australia July 19-23 1930hrs @ Old Trafford

[Jimthegreat]

Jane is just there for looks.

She is actually a highly qualified meteorologist as distinct from a plain weather girl. Looks go well though...hehe.

 

[philreich]

And McDonald

Chuck whatever dollars are needed at Ponting to take over as coach!!!

 

[Purple7x08_24]

 

[Purple7x08_24]

I can't tell whether darker green is more heavier rain or not.

 

[Jimthegreat]

This test has proven that this Australian XI had peaked. I don’t think we can go back to business as usual after this. We need to turnover some players, think about how to manage a Smith past his unmatchable best, and also need to give some serious consideration to the captain / coach combo. We’ve been worn down and outplayed by the Poms last 2 tests, and it seems like they’ve finally perfected the formula that is our kryptonite. our conservative approach has finally backfired with team discipline weakening and the result shows how fragile that approach was. Some serious thinking to do and if we lose the series it will be a wake up call, no matter how good the first 2 wins were

Difference between this series and the one 4 years ago is Smith not making runs. Not to mention Cummins tactics. Even Paine was better bar Headingly debacle, but at least he learned something from that for the next Test. Just went and forgot it again against India.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Which forecast are you using for that? The one I'm looking at still says 80%+ chance of rain right through every hour. Mind you, 90 minutes play would see it out which even in two days of rain may be plausible as rain coverage isn't equal even if the forecast is right.

edit: Looking at the Met Office, they do have rain probable the whole time but stretches of a 60% chance. Which would probably mean 2-4 hours play may be possible (two won't be needed) across two days.

So what we need is a major flood just to make sure...haha.

 

[Mr Meow]

Which forecast are you using for that? The one I'm looking at still says 80%+ chance of rain right through every hour. Mind you, 90 minutes play would see it out which even in two days of rain may be plausible as rain coverage isn't equal even if the forecast is right.

edit: Looking at the Met Office, they do have rain probable the whole time but stretches of a 60% chance. Which would probably mean 2-4 hours play may be possible (two won't be needed) across two days.

Two hours will be needed. Australia will survive 20-25 odd overs. It starts to get hairy after that.

 

[Cleavy]

She is actually a highly qualified meteorologist as distinct from a plain weather girl. Looks go well though...hehe.

Her forecasts are the same mistakes as the BOM, but agree on looks.

 

[Belnakor]

I can't tell whether darker green is more heavier rain or not.

All their weather radars are done terribly not sure what they think they are doing.

 

[Purple7x08_24]

Live view of Manchester. Doesn't look like cricket being played in this

 

[ABAB]

It's been a long time since i've seen an Australian team play so badly and be so humiliated with both bat and ball. Perhaps the Lords cuffuffle has done more damage than we all thought? They look like amateurs out there. Pray for rain and plenty of it, they are still 2-1 up and if by some miracle they can get themselves out of this mess, maybe they can regroup. The forecast is for heavy rain, but we really don't deserve to be saved that way. The Poms are a better team.

We also didn't deserve to loss all 4 tosses in a row which were advantageous to the team who won the toss.

 

[Jimthegreat]

We need to go back to regular bowling, top of off stump, set regular fields, maybe with and extra one out, forcing them to take risks. Worked since 1877. They're not Bradman's. They're score at a good rate but lose wickets fast.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

So what we need is a major flood just to make sure...haha.

Light rain might do it if we can poke holes in the covers….

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Two hours will be needed. Australia will survive 20-25 odd overs. It starts to get hairy after that.

Even with Australia trying to slow the over rates, two hours could be 26-27 overs.

 

[ABAB]

Live view of Manchester. Doesn't look like cricket being played in this

Drainage at the ground will also be an important factor given the amount of rain predicted on both days with no sun.

 

[1990crow]

Even there's a couple of hours of no rain today there's lunch and tea breaks, and the time it takes to set up and inspect the ground these days usually taking anywhere between 30 minutes and an hour.
I'd say at most an hours play today.

The real issue will be does it rain enough day 5, and can our bats potentially bat through 40 overs.

 

[1990crow]

Drainage at the ground will also be an important factor given the amount of rain predicted on both days with no sun.

Correct. Will slow down any chance of play starting.

 

[The 747]

Head captained South Australia when he was 21, is Cummins the first Australian captain to be appointed having never captained a side?
We appointed Pat Cummins to please everyone else.

OK boomer

 

[Cyber_punk]

Live view of Manchester. Doesn't look like cricket being played in this

6 hours + to go mate

 

[1990crow]

We need to go back to regular bowling, top of off stump, set regular fields, maybe with and extra one out, forcing them to take risks. Worked since 1877. They're not Bradman's. They're score at a good rate but lose wickets fast.

For this reason Cummins and McDonald need to be thrown out of leadership roles.

 

[Mr Meow]

Even with Australia trying to slow the over rates, two hours could be 26-27 overs.

Yeah that's what I meant, that Australia could survive that. Now if it was 40-50 overs it'd be a different story. Hence why England slowing their run rate after the late two wickets yesterday, and batting longer, could be costly. They had us on our knees. The smart move was the throw the bat even more, risk some more wickets and a smaller lead but get the extra 20 overs to bowl at us. I honestly think it's going to cost them the match.

 

[The 747]

For this reason Cummins and McDonald need to be thrown out of leadership roles.

And Smith?

 

[Freezin]

Can't see McDonald getting the flick...WTC winning coach etc on his CV. As for Cummins, it might be the case he puts his hand up, says I can't do both roles and voluntarily steps down ...if he does that, folk will respect that, if he doesn't, think the vilification will only get worse.

 

[M Malice]

 

[frankrizzo]

Live view of Manchester. Doesn't look like cricket being played in this

its 4 in morning though could ok in 7 or 8 hours