A Third Team In Sydney - It's Only a Matter Of Time !!

[The_Wookie]

What's the contract length?

No idea. Brave Bison/Rightster had a 3 year deal.

So where is the much bandied cost come from?
Content - should be existing.
Bandwith, storage, streaming production?
I see amateur streaming productions all the time.
Where is the cost in upscaling?

Bandwidth and storage architecture. Site maintenance and operation.

 

[RedV3x]

Bandwidth and storage architecture. Site maintenance and operation.

Live games not a problem, just when it comes to storage and individual streaming?

 

[The_Wookie]

Live games not a problem, just when it comes to storage and individual streaming?

Bandwidth and site management are stil an issue for streaming live matches.

 

[Kwality]

Where is the content coming from? Is there still a 7 or a Fox paying to produce this content for the AFL to on sell ?

 

[The_Wookie]

Where is the content coming from? Is there still a 7 or a Fox paying to produce this content for the AFL to on sell ?

In theory it should be non exclusive, with Seven and Fox continuing to produce and broadcast on their own mediums.

 

[BringBackTorps]

Fox Sports 9.4

American dream: White House advisor considers taking over GWS

American dream: White House advisor considers taking over GWS

www.foxsports.com.au

Wow!

Pimco Bonds, based in Boston & New York, is American "old money." IIRC, has US $300 billion+ under management.
Some of its senior executives have become major fans of AF in general, & GWS in particular (often flying in for GWS games).

News - Giants in the Media

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Go to post #1664,



The Australian J. Stensholt "Mystery Bet On Giants" 26.9

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

(Behind a paywall- can anyone open, for the full article)


SEN Radio GWS CEO on Potential US Ownership of GWS

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With the Australian dollar @US 56 cents, any Australian assets can become "very affordable" & very attractive.
However, would US raiders/cashed-up foreign Hedge Funds, Pension Funds etc. consider GWS a very atractive & profitable investment? No- profits in GWS would be very small, if they did make a profit
...UNLESS they wanted to take AF to the USA, to become a major sport? Put that in your pipe & smoke it?

Would the AFL find a US takeover of GWS attractive? IMO, yes. Huge potential to get into the US market. The US would be very happy if just 1% of the US 320m pop. watched the AFL regularly; & played GR AF in large nos. also.

Particularly if some Melb. teams (& there will always be some who are impecunious, even in the "good times") sell their home games to be played in LA/San Francisco, Boston, & New York.
Melb. clubs, to make the travel more amenable, could play in 2 or 3 week stints ie Game 1 LA; whilst staying in the US, 6 days later game 2 Boston; staying in the US, 6 days later, Game 3 NY. Then fly back asap to Australia.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The Oz's sports business journo John Stensholt's article back in GF week.

Pimco bond titans buy into GWS Giants

Meet the mystery American bond traders who are in charge of hundreds of billions of investor dollars globally, but have quietly been putting their own millions into the GWS Giants. Market gurus and Pimco executives Dan Ivascyn, the Boston-born “bond prince”, and New York-based Marc Seidner will both be in Australia by Saturday morning in time to see the Giants clash with Richmond in the AFL grand final at the MCG.

The sports-loving pair maintain an extremely low profile when it comes to their passion for Australian rules football, but are understood to have also backed the Giants financially and become an integral part of the club’s off-field operations. That has extended to having close relationships with Giants president Tony Shepherd and chief executive Dave Matthews, and coach Leon Cameron. They are also, accordingly to one AFL insider, a “significant” part of the group of anonymous corporate supporters who have stumped up $2.5m annually to buy naming rights for the club’s home ground, known as Giants Stadium since the beginning of the year. “It is important to say what they are doing is sports philanthropy and is on their own and not with their company’s brand attached to it,” GWS president Tony Shepherd told The Australian. “They have fallen in the love with the game, and with the team, and we are blessed to have these sort of people involved with the Giants. They came to us, it was not a matter of us approaching them. They certainly don’t want any publicity. But they have very quickly become experts in the game.”

Mr Ivascyn is Pimco’s group chief investment officer and a managing director of the firm’s Newport Beach office in Los Angeles, and has arrived in Melbourne ahead of Saturday’s match. He manages Pimco’s Income Fund, which reportedly has more than $300bn in funds. A highly diversified yet defensively positioned fund, it has been attractive to investors shifting back to the bond product due to interest rate cuts and monetary easing policies by central banks around the world.
..............

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

 

[BringBackTorps]

SEN Radio Melb. G.Lyon/T.Watson program 9.4

GWS CEO D. Matthews on possible US purchase of GWS.

Whooshkaa Shows

player.whooshkaa.com

Would major US financial institutions, generally, have any interest in GWS? GWS profits would simply be too small (if they ever made a profit)
...UNLESS the US main objective was a long term plan for the AFL in the US to become a popular TV/cable sport; & for AF to become a popular GF AF sport for jnrs & adults to play. And, eventually, establish a permanently US based team/s in the AFL?

Put that in your pipe & smoke it.









EDIT:

Private ownership? American millionaires interested in bankrolling Giants

GWS chief executive Dave Matthews says private ownership is worth considering in the current AFL climate

www.afl.com.au

 

[RedV3x]

Would major US financial institutions, generally, have any interest in GWS? GWS profits would simply be too small (if they ever made a profit)
...UNLESS the US main objective was a long term plan for the AF,in the US, to become a popular TV/cable sport; & for AF to become a popular GF AF sport for jnrs & adults to play.

Well, they were definitely interested in staging an AFL game. Why stage an AFL game if you're not wanting to follow it up?

 

[LordLucifer]

For those who think it may be difficult to break down some of the rugby league barriers in NSW & QLD, think again.

NRL has mismanaged game for years, says Nine in stunning broadside

This is as savage a spray as I've seen in my 25-years living in Sydney and if they lose their TV rights, it may permanently cripple them forever.

 

[Aussie in exile]

For those who think it may be difficult to break down some of the rugby league barriers in NSW & QLD, think again.

NRL has mismanaged game for years, says Nine in stunning broadside

This is as savage a spray as I've seen in my 25-years living in Sydney and if they lose their TV rights, it may permanently cripple them forever.

Then just imagine what will happen when they manage properly now Peter V'landys in charge

 

[ziad]

Sydney - 4,500,00 population
Perth & Adelaide - 2,000,000 combined population

The three biggest economies in Australia - ranked by size

Sydney
Victoria
Western Sydney

Do the maths. Mind you teh AFL isnt skilled in expansion and has dropped the ball significantly in its support ofjunior expansion in Sydney.
Rupert may have to step in.

 

[BringBackTorps]

For those who think it may be difficult to break down some of the rugby league barriers in NSW & QLD, think again.

NRL has mismanaged game for years, says Nine in stunning broadside

This is as savage a spray as I've seen in my 25-years living in Sydney and if they lose their TV rights, it may permanently cripple them forever.

"Nine...media company wants to negotiate a new contract with the code".

This is "code" that the NRL can expect cuts to their current deal with Nine (I am not aware of Fox Sports making, publicly, similar aggressive comments- but Fox are likely to cut also- both citing Force Majure/Act Of God provisions in comtract law to void the media contracts).

NRL has mismanaged game for years, says Nine in stunning broadside

This reduction in the current NRL media rights (ie for 2020-2022) was foreshadowd by M. Chammas & S. Mascord's recent articles

 

[giggler99]

Then just imagine what will happen when they manage properly now Peter V'landys in charge

Why is this guy portrayed as the messiah to Rugby League fans? Genuine question, I know his racing background but has he had any other involvements in Rugby League in the past? or is the ARL admin that screwed that anyone at this point is the messiah?

 

[Les Malone]

SEN Radio Melb. G.Lyon/T.Watson program 9.4

GWS CEO D. Matthews on possible US purchase of GWS.

Whooshkaa Shows

player.whooshkaa.com

Would major US financial institutions, generally, have any interest in GWS? GWS profits would simply be too small (if they ever made a profit)
...UNLESS the US main objective was a long term plan for the AFL in the US to become a popular TV/cable sport; & for AF to become a popular GF AF sport for jnrs & adults to play. And, eventually, establish a permanently US based team/s in the AFL?

Put that in your pipe & smoke it.









EDIT:

Private ownership? American millionaires interested in bankrolling Giants

GWS chief executive Dave Matthews says private ownership is worth considering in the current AFL climate

www.afl.com.au

only a nine a side or something similar would work in the US because of the size of their stadiums

 

[RedV3x]

only a nine a side or something similar would work in the US because of the size of their stadiums

There's cricket grounds, athletic stadiums and sporting grounds.
Where do you think these play https://usafl.com/clublist



Exhibition matches

Date	Location	Stadium	Competition	Teams	Attendance
3/11/2012	London, UK	The Oval	AFL Post-season exhibition – AFL European Challenge[11]	Western Bulldogs vs. Port Adelaide	10,000[12]
17/10/2010	Shanghai, China	Jiangwan Stadium	Exhibition match – "Shanghai Showdown"	Melbourne vs. Brisbane Lions[13]	7,100
9/02/2008	Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates	Ghantoot Polo and Racing Club	NAB Cup	Collingwood vs Adelaide[14]	6,102[15]
2/02/2008	Centurion, Gauteng, South Africa	SuperSport Park	AFL pre-season practice	Carlton vs Fremantle	3,500[16] – 5,222[17](reports vary)
21/10/2006	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	Geelong v. Port Adelaide	12,129
15/1/2006	Los Angeles, USA	Intramural Field, UCLA	AFL pre-season practice	Kangaroos v. Sydney	3,200 (sell-out)
8/10/2005	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	West Coast Eagles v. Fremantle	18,884
11/10/2003	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	Collingwood v. Fremantle	12,847
12/10/2002	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	Richmond v. Essendon	13,000
17/2/2001	Wellington, New Zealand	Westpac Stadium	2001 pre-season cup game – group stage	Brisbane Lions v. Adelaide	7,500
7/10/2000	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	Melbourne v. Adelaide	4,500
29/01/2000	Wellington, New Zealand	Westpac Stadium	Pre-season cup game – group stage Round 1	Western Bulldogs v. Hawthorn	11,666
9/10/1999	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	Essendon v. Hawthorn	12,000+
10/10/1998	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	Western Bulldogs v. St Kilda	12,000
1/03/1998	Wellington, New Zealand	Basin Reserve		Melbourne v. Sydney	7,820
22/02/1998	Cape Town, South Africa	Newlands Cricket Ground		Brisbane v. Fremantle	10,123
12/10/1997	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	West Coast v. Collingwood	14,000
16/10/1994	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	Richmond v. Carlton and Adelaide v West Coast	6,000
13/10/1991	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	West Coast v. Hawthorn	10,000
5/10/1991	Auckland, New Zealand		AFL post season exhibition	Geelong v. St Kilda	8,500
14/10/1990	London, UK	The Oval	AFL post season exhibition	Collingwood v. Essendon	9,000
12/10/1990	Portland, USA	Civic Stadium	AFL post season exhibition	Melbourne v. West Coast	14,787
22/10/1989	London, UK	The Oval	VFL post season exhibition	Melbourne v. Essendon	12,000
14/10/1989	Miami, USA	Joe Robbie Stadium	VFL post season exhibition	Essendon v. Hawthorn	10,069
12/10/1989	Toronto, Canada	Toronto Skydome	VFL post season exhibition	Geelong v. Melbourne	24,639
16/10/1988	Toronto, Ontario, Canada	Varsity Stadium	VFL post season exhibition	Collingwood v. Hawthorn	18,500
9/10/1988	London, UK	The Oval	VFL post season exhibition	Hawthorn v. Carlton	10,000
8/10/1988	Miami, USA	Joe Robbie Stadium	VFL post season exhibition	Collingwood v. Geelong	7,500
25/10/1987	Yokohama, Japan	Yokohama Stadium	VFL post season exhibition	Hawthorn v. Essendon	13,000
18/10/1987	Vancouver, Canada	B.C. Place	VFL post season exhibition	Melbourne v. North Melbourne	7,980
11/10/1987	London, UK	The Oval	VFL post season exhibition	Carlton v. North Melbourne	14,000[18]
9/10/1987	Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada	B.C. Place	VFL post season exhibition	Melbourne v. Sydney	32,789 (record to date)
3/11/1986	Yokohama, Japan	Yokohama Stadium	VFL post season exhibition	Carlton v. Hawthorn	25,000
12/10/1986	London, UK	The Oval	VFL post season exhibition	Carlton v. North Melbourne	?
29/10/1972	London, UK	The Oval	Postseason World Tour	Carlton v. All-Stars	9,000
05/11/1972	Athens, Greece		Postseason World Tour	Carlton v. All-Stars	3,000
12/11/1972	Singapore		Postseason World Tour	Carlton v. All-Stars	8,500
1969	New Delhi		WAFL practice	East Perth v. Subiaco	3,500
31/10/1967	London, UK	Crystal Palace National Sports Centre	Australian Football World Tour	Australia vs Britain (expat)	1,000[19]
26/10/1963	San Francisco, USA	Big Rec Stadium		Geelong v. Melbourne	3,500
20/10/1963	Honolulu, USA			Geelong v. Melbourne	1,500

 

[Colonial]

Why is this guy portrayed as the messiah to Rugby League fans? Genuine question, I know his racing background but has he had any other involvements in Rugby League in the past? or is the ARL admin that screwed that anyone at this point is the messiah?

As a league fan from the 80’s I’ve lost count with the amount of saviours the game has had since Super League. Becomes a joke really.

 

[Colonial]

only a nine a side or something similar would work in the US because of the size of their stadiums

Matthews has said there are 10 or so cricket grounds being built all over the country, at around 15k capacity.


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[Aucklander]

Why is this guy portrayed as the messiah to Rugby League fans? Genuine question, I know his racing background but has he had any other involvements in Rugby League in the past? or is the ARL admin that screwed that anyone at this point is the messiah?

I'm not even sure why you'd ask that question here, mate.

 

[NoobPie]

Then just imagine what will happen when they manage properly now Peter V'landys in charge

Lol

 

[giggler99]

I'm not even sure why you'd ask that question here, mate.

Normally I wouldn't but it was just in reply to Aussie in exile post. plus the man intrigues me.

 

[NoobPie]

Why is this guy portrayed as the messiah to Rugby League fans? Genuine question, I know his racing background but has he had any other involvements in Rugby League in the past? or is the ARL admin that screwed that anyone at this point is the messiah?

Because they are desperate

Ultimately the game is in the same position it has always been. Unable to shed parochialism for the the true independent leadership that can take the long view in its strategic management

To think that horse racing spivery is the same skill set as professional football code leadership is risible

 

[Aucklander]

Normally I wouldn't but it was just in reply to Aussie in exile post plus the man intrigues me.

I hven't seen anything yet to get excited about, but this is a great opportunity to make serious change in the way the game is run and also developed outside of NSW and QLD.

 

[Les Malone]

Matthews has said there are 10 or so cricket grounds being built all over the country, at around 15k capacity.


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Australian size cricket grounds ?

 

[Colonial]

Australian size cricket grounds ?

Supposedly. Businessmen over there want to have their own t20 comp


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