A Third Team In Sydney - It's Only a Matter Of Time !!

[Les Malone]

Supposedly. Businessmen over there want to have their own t20 comp


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OK, i would have thought smaller grounds would suit hitting sixes for a T20, people want to see sixes, therefore i would doubt they would be as big as Australian grounds by area, remember the SCG has been continually made bigger and many people still think its to small

Australian cricket grounds are some of the biggest in the world and dwarf, Kiwi, English, West Indian grounds.

18 a side on a small ground is not great game to watch.

 

[Colonial]

OK, i would have thought smaller grounds would suit hitting sixes for a T20, people want to see sixes, therefore i would doubt they would be as big as Australian grounds by area, remember the SCG has been continually made bigger and many people still think its to small

Australian cricket grounds are some of the biggest in the world and dwarf, Kiwi, English, West Indian grounds.

18 a side on a small ground is not great game to watch.

Well they are supposedly large enough as that’s what the Giants are looking at.


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[Les Malone]

Well they are supposedly large enough as that’s what the Giants are looking at.


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Ok, not trying to put the kybosh on it, just giving an opinion about ground size which makes sense to me.

 

[Colonial]

Ok, not trying to put the kybosh on it, just giving an opinion about ground size which makes sense to me.

I know, only repeating what was said by Matthews.


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[BringBackTorps]

The Age C. Wilson 9.4

"The AFL & Ch.7 look set to reinforce...a potential 2-year extension of the game's media rights...(in) a new marginally reduced contract that would run until 2024".

AFL, Seven working to extend broadcast deal

AFL, Seven and Fox Sports explore a marginally reduced contract that would run until 2024.

www.theage.com.au

A significant boost for the AFL in particular, & GR AF in general, in NSW, ACT, & Qld. The other codes are facing MASSIVE financial reductions, & are in disarray.
An historic triumph for our Australian game.

Prospects fairly good for a 3rd Sydney team from c. 2035- Sydney pop. then will be c. 7m. The permanent slashing of costs to create & operate an AFL club is very good news for all smaller clubs.


Thank you, Mr Swan, now a GWS fan (He played for St Kilda in the 70's, under his real name, Jeff Sarau- now a hot-shot Bond Trader in the US).

"If you've got a problem, I don't care what it is
If you need a hand, I can assure you this
I can help"

 

[Pippen94]

In the history of sport world wide has a company spent more money trying to make a team stick than afl on gws?

 

[Pippen94]

SEN Radio Melb. G.Lyon/T.Watson program 9.4

GWS CEO D. Matthews on possible US purchase of GWS.

Whooshkaa Shows

player.whooshkaa.com

Would major US financial institutions, generally, have any interest in GWS? GWS profits would simply be too small (if they ever made a profit)
...UNLESS the US main objective was a long term plan for the AFL in the US to become a popular TV/cable sport; & for AF to become a popular GF AF sport for jnrs & adults to play. And, eventually, establish a permanently US based team/s in the AFL?

Put that in your pipe & smoke it.









EDIT:

Private ownership? American millionaires interested in bankrolling Giants

GWS chief executive Dave Matthews says private ownership is worth considering in the current AFL climate

www.afl.com.au

Fantasy stuff

 

[Colonial]

In the history of sport world wide has a company spent more money trying to make a team stick than afl on gws?

I’m surprised you haven’t rage quit yet.

 

[RedV3x]

Fantasy stuff

What's the matter Pissen, jealously? Afraid the GWS will be fast-tracked to super club? It's already bigger han most NRL clubs.
Every single trolling post of yours is about the AFL expenditure on GWS regardless of the figures on the nett cost.
Now there appears that there will be no argument about funding and you dismiss a system that works in just about every other professional league.
You may criticise the AFL on past performances with private ownership but there is no reason that
this private ownership of GWS couldn't propel the GWS not only in Sydney, in Australia but in the U.S.A.

 

[Pippen94]

I’m surprised you haven’t rage quit yet.

In times like we are facing it's important to laugh. Talk of game gaining TV rights & gr investment from overseas is laughable.

 

[Colonial]

In times like we are facing it's important to laugh. Talk of game gaining TV rights & gr investment from overseas is laughable.

It isn’t actually, it’s almost a hard reset on the nations sports.

Things won’t be the same when we get back to it, wether that’s AFL, A-League, NRL or Rugby.

Some will think the world is ending but there will be those who see opportunity.

As you’re a wanderer we know you’re an end of the world glass empty type.
Blacktown may take your spot in the regigged national comp if you aren’t careful though


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[Pippen94]

What's the matter Pissen, jealously? Afraid the GWS will be fast-tracked to super club? It's already bigger han most NRL clubs.
Every single trolling post of yours is about the AFL expenditure on GWS regardless of the figures on the nett cost.
Now there appears that there will be no argument about funding and you dismiss a system that works in just about every other professional league.
You may criticise the AFL on past performances with private ownership but there is no reason that
this private ownership of GWS couldn't propel the GWS not only in Sydney, in Australia but in the U.S.A.

Gws entirely exist because league provides an unprecedented amount in funding. Where else in the world has a sporting organization spent so much to prop up a club?
There is no market for afl overseas - if you can't make game work in western Sydney despite millions in hand outs what chance do you have in USA?

 

[Colonial]

Gws entirely exist because league provides an unprecedented amount in funding. Where else in the world has a sporting organization spent so much to prop up a club?
There is no market for afl overseas - if you can't make game work in western Sydney despite millions in hand outs what chance do you have in USA?

So football, the world version, is dead in Australia?
By your rules anyway.


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[RedV3x]

In times like we are facing it's important to laugh. Talk of game gaining TV rights & gr investment from overseas is laughable.

While you're laughing in despair, life goes on and history shows that some people will actually improve their position.

 

[BringBackTorps]

1. Triple M Radio Melb. E. McGuire & T. Browne 7.4

"AFL are likely to cap how much money clubs are allowed to spend on Administration".

Home – Triple M

www.triplem.com.au

These cuts to spending will be permanent. This is more good news for GWS /GC/ smaller AFL clubs, helping them to remain financially viable & competitive for the long term.

And, of course, making it less financially risky in establishing a 3rd Club, eventually, in Sydney.


2. AFR A. Greig & M.Mason 8.4

A good summary of the post covid-19 future of the 4 football codes.

. RU "...is facing collapse in Australia as Foxtel contemplates walking away from the game".
N. Farr-Jones believes RA will go into Administration in about 1 month. R. Masters believes RU will become a semi-professional sport in Aust.

. "The A League is also staring at the loss of Foxtel...& may need to get smaller, before it gets bigger".

WU, in Tarneit (Melb.'s far western sheep paddocks), was predicated on a successful major residential development. However, borrowing for residential mortgages has collapsed c. 35% around Australia- & property experts are predicting a 20% average drop in Melb. prices, due to the oncoming major recession.
Macarthur, SW Sydney, with the existence of the A League being in some doubt, may be very concerned with paying a $15m licence fee)

. Re the AFL & NRL

"Rugby League looks the more vulnerable of the 2 major codes...any bailout money would require repayment with a hefty rate of interest, which might divert funds from development & the NRLW...". (but NRL ratings are excellent- Brisbane 2 would be a big boost).

Why winter sport will never be the same

Coronavirus could well be fatal for at least one of Australia's four football codes.

www.afr.com

 

[RedV3x]

remember the SCG has been continually made bigger l

Continually. They increased the size of the SCG once from 149m to 151m.
Increasing the size of the SCG would entail grabbing air space over the roadway for the stands.
(which is what I think should've happened but didn't.)

and many people still think its to small

Not in today's football.

18 a side on a small ground is not great game to watch.

What games exactly?
If Australian Football was to take off in the U.S.A. at a professional level than I would say
that playing 16-a-side on smaller ovals would actually be of great benefit.
Most exhibition games in the U.S.A were 16-a-side.
Smaller grounds - less costs and closer to the action.
People continually said (and some still do) that Australian Football will not flourish overseas due to the demand for 18-a-side football.
Well, guess what, 9-a-side has been the greatest boon to Australian Football ever.
Clubs that play representative football 18-a-side can easily field multiple 9-a-side teams and expand more easily.
Clubs that play representative football 18-a-side can choose the most serious and proficient players for 18-a-side
whilst providing the best environment for newcomers.

 

[BringBackTorps]

SMH R. Masters 9.4

Re Nine boss H. Marks, Masters said he

"...wants to renegotiate the final 2 years of the 2018-2022 contract" ie downwards cost.

"In fact, he almost certainly seeks to extend the existing contract at significantly (my emphasis) reduced rates" for post 2022 NRL seasons.

Masters also said Nine wants more exclusive NRL games, so "Nine's boss has picked only his first mark. His next fight will be with Foxtel".

Nine's brutal attack on the NRL a mere diversion from the main game

When the Nine Network delivered a scathing assessment of the code's administration on Thursday, it was paradoxically both unprecedented and unsurprising.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Johnny Bananas]

SMH R. Masters 9.4

Re Nine boss H. Marks, Masters said

"In fact, he almost certainly seeks to extend the existing contract at significantly (my emphasis) reduced rates" for NRL seasons 2012-2022.

Nine's brutal attack on the NRL a mere diversion from the main game

When the Nine Network delivered a scathing assessment of the code's administration on Thursday, it was paradoxically both unprecedented and unsurprising.

www.smh.com.au

because no commercial network can exist without NRL or AFL.

This is just silly. Ten continues to survive without either of them. It may have suffered a lot in the past decade, but so has all of commercial TV. Nine and Seven both only have a couple of decades left too.

 

[RedV3x]

This is just silly.

because all TV networks want the most sport. Sport is the only content that matters in real time.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

because all TV networks want the most sport. Sport is the only content that matters in real time.

Sure, but stations can clearly exist without one of the two major codes. Ten has existed for a decade without them, and Seven didn't sink into the ground in the period they lost AFL rights.

 

[RedV3x]

stations can clearly exist without one of the two major codes.

But sports is essential for their existance. Ten chose cricket and that saved them.
Live sport is what separates broadcasters from entertainment suppliers.

 

[The_Wookie]

because all TV networks want the most sport. Sport is the only content that matters in real time.

With the advent of online streaming and playback, Im not sure thats as true now as it was a few years back. Plus, if you look at the ratings reality shows smash sports ratings on FTA television with exceptions for grand finals and origin, and possibly friday night football in the AFLs case.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

But sports is essential for their existance. Ten chose cricket and that saved them.
Live sport is what separates broadcasters from entertainment suppliers.

No, they chose the Big Bash only, and they're still in existence even though they lost the rights to it a few years ago.

 

[RedV3x]

With the advent of online streaming and playback, Im not sure thats as true now as it was a few years back. Plus, if you look at the ratings reality shows smash sports ratings on FTA television with exceptions for grand finals and origin, and possibly friday night football in the AFLs case.

Yes, my statement was indeed shorthand without all the why and wherefores. so i'll rephrase.
Live sport is very important to television and all media especially television because television cannot stream.
Television would not like to lose live sport to streaming services which are becoming an increasing threat.
Yes, there are quite a number of productions that out rate sports but they don't give the broad security of sports.
Most productions have a limited life and they a lot more suited to on demand streaming.
Tastes change and networks are continually looking at content to buy. It's a risky business.
Sport is not a new production and networks all know it's worth and can quantify it's worth more easily.
Mistakes are still made like with cricket and generally networks pay too much because sport is so desirable.
I know anecdotal evidence is worth little, but I watch most most of television that way (even FTA).

 

[RedV3x]

No, they chose the Big Bash only,

Last I knew BBL was cricket and the BBL rated well whilst other cricket didn't.
Ten made the best choice and lost it when the contract was up because networks like successful sport.

they're still in existence

That's hardly anything to trumpet.