I dont compare him to that kinda player. Ill compare him to a player like Josh Kelly at same age. Surely you believe Pick 6 alone doesnt get it done. Pick 6 and 24 odd to me is fair and honestly given the choice of that and keeping Cerra. I know im keeping Cerra
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Traded Adam Cerra traded to Carlton for pick #6 and F3
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Its ok, they'll just go and raid GWS for some more duds. They do that very well.
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Amen to this!!! Cerra will be Carltons best recruit in years! Deadset gun of future
would be very Carlton to pay overs for Cogs now that he isnt best 22 lol
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Kelly wasn’t an elite player until his 5th year, which is where Cerra is at next season, but prior to that wasn’t seen as an obvious next generation midfield star. More a solid, hard-running outside midfielder in the Tom Scully mould who had neat footskills but wasn’t an impact player.
One early pick and a fringe player (SPS) is correct weight for Cerra.
Thing is SPS is probs lucky to not be going in PSD!!! Your first and a second rounder is fair. We have done the developing for you for 4 years and somehow he is gonna be worth less than what we paid?
Question here. Would you rather get Cerra or take 6 and 24 to draft?
If that's what you honestly believe, then prepare to be very disappointed my friend...
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Interesting also to note how many times Cerra has been in the best few players on the ground and the number of times he has featured in the coaches votes. It’s not many.
Still very much a work in progress, but he should become a very good midfielder at worst.
Still very much a work in progress, but he should become a very good midfielder at worst.
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I have already written a post around 1st round depreciation. Should we also expect Pick 6 for SPS?
Players typically don’t retain their pick value unless they are elite players. That isn’t Cerra yet.
I’d prefer banking a proven performer, but they have to come at the right price.
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You’ll compare him to whatever is favourable for Freo. You can’t judge Cerra’s value on some past trades but not others. How about judging the trade on its own merits?
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That's an entirely incorrect description of Josh Kelly. Kelly was always rated highly, had an excellent 3rd season, and his 4th season was his breakout year - AA and 5th in the Brownlow. His stats surpass Cerra's in a year-on-year comparison.
While I rate Cerra, I don't rate him as highly as Josh. Not that I see that comparison as relevant anyway, as Josh hasn't been traded so you can't see any benchmark there. Adam Treloar, traded after 4years, would provide a benchmark, but again I would see Cerra's performance not as strong as Treloar over those first 4 years. As much as any past trade can be seen as a comparison.
Honestly, as a neutral observer, pick 6 is front and centre, and IMHO a little bit more, but not a second first round pick.
We will give you a second rounder back. It's ludicrous to think that one of the top half dozen young mids in the comp does not have high trade value.
Yes you can. He is a genuinely top grade young mid. He is worth the same as other top line young mids gained in trades in the past. The historical norm is two firsts with a future second coming back.
He was equal third in our best and fairest last year. His form has been on a huge upswing every year of his career. There is no chance it will be just your first pick if a trade got done. Keep dreaming if you think that trade will happen.
Yes. At the same time in Lachie's career that Cerra is at now Adam is a significantly better and more well rounded player. It wouldn't be close either as Lachie has issues with his kicking early on in his career.
Im referring to Kelly at the same age mate
. As a 21 year old im sure we can all admit he is in the elite category. Carlton definetly aint chasing him hard because they think hes crap. They are chasing because hes a gun. Somehow Vic media think Carlton will be able to trade down the first. In what world do we accept that hay 
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Stand corrected, statistically Cerra’s 4th season is closer to Kelly’s 3rd.
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Pretty sure most in here agree with you they are just arguing two sides of the same coin
The trade proposed by Kreuuuzeurns is the best one. Assuming SPS is close to negative value
6, 25, SPS for Cerra and a 3rd
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Yes, I'm comparing at the same age - 4th year in the comp, which was Kelly's AA year.Im referring to Kelly at the same age mate
But I agree, Carlton aren't chasing Cerra because he's crap or even ordinary - they think he'll be a gun in the future who complements their existing midfield. I agree that Carlton would ideally wish to switch their pick 6 for two later first round picks and keep one for themselves - which is definitely unders for Adam IMHO.
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Fremantle alone have two better young mids. I’m perfectly fine with 6 and trimmings but it shouldn’t be two firsts.
Neale won your BnF in the year he left and was contracted. I rate Cerra but I don’t see him winning a Brownlow in his future. To me he projects to as a Dylan Shiel type. Will win an AA or two, be very important at his club and be in the best 15-30 mids in the game at his best. I hope he doesn’t see the same injuries Shiel did. I might have completely missed the mark here but that’s how I view his potential.
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Yes, that's probably around where I'd see it. It will be interesting to see what the two footy departments come up with in the end.
There will be dispute around the worth of SPS - he probably distorts the trade the most because I think there's a wide gulf between Carlton & Freo supporters in their respective assessments.
But, I think this will fill lots of pages on this thread until the trade period starts!
I was referring to the national draft not the pre-season draft. I probably wouldn't chance the pre-season draft with Cerra, particularly given we won't be in a position to offer a super high salary like Jack Martin to scare other clubs off.
If Cerra goes to the national draft no club will take him before Carlton. Nobody would use top 5 pick on a player who doesn't want to go there. Presuming Carlton is happy to trade pick 5 for him anyway, taking him at 5 in the National Draft would be no big deal.
In reality I expect Carlton to pay slightly over pick 5 to get the deal done amicably, but they won't pay significantly more, as they have another option.
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Teague wasn’t a massive fan of SPS - for whatever reason.
Fisher has had a handful on injuries throughout the last two years.
Neither have ‘negative trade value’.
And neither will be delisted if they aren’t traded.
Will be interesting to see how they develop under a new coach and game style next year.
However unless Fremantle (and not the bigfooty supporters) rate either of them more than their output has been in ‘20-21 I doubt they’ll be included in this trade.
Fisher has had a handful on injuries throughout the last two years.
Neither have ‘negative trade value’.
And neither will be delisted if they aren’t traded.
Will be interesting to see how they develop under a new coach and game style next year.
However unless Fremantle (and not the bigfooty supporters) rate either of them more than their output has been in ‘20-21 I doubt they’ll be included in this trade.
