Traded Adam Cerra traded to Carlton for pick #6 and F3

[THE_GUN]

If word has got to freo that his preferred club is Richmond then there is a possibility to sign him for 2 years freo just has to give him what he wants and if that is $850k x 2 freo has been bent over and will just have to pay that.

Cant see them settling for a pick #10-#15
No Chance Tigers give up both 1st rounders

 

[Moist Biscuit]

If word has got to freo that his preferred club is Richmond then there is a possibility to sign him for 2 years freo just has to give him what he wants and if that is $850k x 2 freo has been bent over and will just have to pay that.

Cant see them settling for a pick #10-#15
No Chance Tigers give up both 1st rounders

Freo wont pay him $850k per year, that's Brad Hill sort of money.

 

[THE_GUN]

Freo wont pay him $850k per year, that's Brad Hill sort of money.

So what happens if he selects Richmond ?

We have 2 x 1st rounders but wont part with both
Chances are it will be 1 x 1st and 1 x 2nd at best

I dont think fremantle will take that chance and will most likely just agree to the 2 year deal

 

[Moist Biscuit]

So what happens if he selects Richmond ?

We have 2 x 1st rounders but wont part with both
Chances are it will be 1 x 1st and 1 x 2nd at best

I dont think fremantle will take that chance and will most likely just agree to the 2 year deal

I don't think there will be such an ultimatum. I think if Richmond are offering him 1.7 over 2 years you would cough up more than a single first rounder in the teens for him.

 

[THE_GUN]

I don't think there will be such an ultimatum. I think if Richmond are offering him 1.7 over 2 years you would cough up more than a single first rounder in the teens for him.

I didnt say Richmond offering that. what i said is that if he requested that from fremantle to stay otherwise his preferred option is to come home and selected Richmond

 

[Dockeroo]

If word has got to freo that his preferred club is Richmond then there is a possibility to sign him for 2 years freo just has to give him what he wants and if that is $850k x 2 freo has been bent over and will just have to pay that.

Cant see them settling for a pick #10-#15
No Chance Tigers give up both 1st rounders

It literally says in the tweet that the money on offer is not the issue.
The_gun: “freo will have to up their offer to $850k.”

 

[THE_GUN]

It literally says in the tweet that the money on offer is not the issue.
The_gun: “freo will have to up their offer to $850k.”

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If Money is not the offer then he is gone !!

My Point was to offer him a deal that he just thinks " Wow maybe i should stay another 2 or 3 years"

 

[daniel23]

So what happens if he selects Richmond ?

We have 2 x 1st rounders but wont part with both
Chances are it will be 1 x 1st and 1 x 2nd at best

I dont think fremantle will take that chance and will most likely just agree to the 2 year deal

How do you know Richmond won't part with 2 1st's? Pretty simple if they value him that highly they will and i would say when you look at recent trades that is going rate. Cerra is a much better player then shiel.

 

[THE_GUN]

How do you know Richmond won't part with 2 1st's? Pretty simple if they value him that highly they will and i would say when you look at recent trades that is going rate. Cerra is a much better player then shiel.

Personally i think we have other priorities with our list like replacements for Jack Riewoldt , David Astbury
there are some really nice KPF & KPD in the draft this year at around picks 10-20 and thats exactly where our picks fall

Midfield is not an urgent priority and we have players that are young needing game time with our experienced mids still having 2 years atleast
just cant see how he fits into our team but if he wanted to come - Sure you take him but dont sell the farm

Tom Green is the midfielder that Richmond will go after in 2 years time IMO

 

[Daka]

Personally i think we have other priorities with our list like replacements for Jack Riewoldt , David Astbury
there are some really nice KPF & KPD in the draft this year at around picks 10-20 and thats exactly where our picks fall

Midfield is not an urgent priority and we have players that are young needing game time with our experienced mids still having 2 years atleast
just cant see how he fits into our team but if he wanted to come - Sure you take him but dont sell the farm

Tom Green is the midfielder that Richmond will go after in 2 years time IMO

I disagree, I think midfield is the reason we are losing so many games, we are putting our defence under so much pressure.

Every week the opposition midfield is getting big numbers & ours aren't we have never been a high possession team but at the moment we are being slaughtered.

 

[Magpie45]

There is absolutely no question Richmond would offer their two first rounders for Cerra, especially if it's pick 12-18 this year as expected. When a proven gun young player nominates your club, you just pay what's required.

All of Shiel, Treloar, Beams and Gibbs cost two first rounders, no reason Cerra shouldn't either. Yes there are some exceptions like Neale and Weller, but the draft pick traded for those guys was much earlier.

 

[Malifice]

Does Carlton have the cap room for Cerra on 600-700k+

Everyone was saying they were tight with Cripps, Mckay and Walsh needing to sign on for big coin especially after the big $ signings last year.

Betts, Casboult and Murphy to retire, plus Williams, McGovern and Martin were all on front ended deals (and if he doesnt pull his finger out McGovern wont be getting another good one), and we can still go to 105 percent of the cap again next year. Cripps probably didnt cost as much as we thought he would, but McKays contract will be higher than expected.

Pretty sure we can make room.

 

[Keystone agony]

Betts, Casboult and Murphy to retire, plus Williams, McGovern and Martin were all on front ended deals (and if he doesnt pull his finger out McGovern wont be getting another good one), and we can still go to 105 percent of the cap again next year. Cripps probably didnt cost as much as we thought he would, but McKays contract will be higher than expected.

Pretty sure we can make room.

Fair enough, you would know

You guys could do with something

 

[tiger_tough]

There is absolutely no question Richmond would offer their two first rounders for Cerra, especially if it's pick 12-18 this year as expected.

I don't think so. We have good midfield depth already.

We need an Astbury replacement desperately right now and grimes Is getting on too. Plus we have 0 key forward depth apart from Coleman-jones who Dimma doesn't seem to rate.

 

[Malifice]

Fair enough, you would know

You guys could do with something

Its pretty much Walsh and Cripps at the moment, supported by 30 y/o Ed Curnow.

Our second string mids (Dow, Setterfield, Kennedy, Stocker, SPS) havent really come on (they've all shown a bit at times though so we can hopefully get a player or two from that lot), and Kemp and Carroll are young and havent had a chance yet. We cant really go to the draft either - we need someone who can step up next year and rack up the high 20's consistently, from round 1 next year and have an immediate impact.

We'd love to add a (dreaming) Merrett or a Cerra to that mix. Cerra is certainly tracking in the right direction for a mid of his age.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

If he wants 2 years, does he want more money up front ?.

Eg. The rumoured $ 700 000 multiplied by 4. This could be front loaded, or back loaded.

If it’s 2 years, he may want $ 750 000 multiplied by 2. The reasoning being that if he stayed for 4, the last 2 would be the balancing lower amount.

Looks like he just wants to keep his options open.

He’ll get paid what he wants no matter where he goes no matter how long he signs for.

Poor kid is clearly torn between staying at a rising club and coming home. Hope he chooses to leave for Carlton’s sake but it’d be nice to see him stay. Good for the league.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I disagree, I think midfield is the reason we are losing so many games, we are putting our defence under so much pressure.

Every week the opposition midfield is getting big numbers & ours aren't we have never been a high possession team but at the moment we are being slaughtered.

Have you not noticed that most of your midfield is out injured?

 

[Magpie45]

Won't go to Carlton.

 

[Magpie45]

I don't think so. We have good midfield depth already.

We need an Astbury replacement desperately right now and grimes Is getting on too. Plus we have 0 key forward depth apart from Coleman-jones who Dimma doesn't seem to rate.

Essendon also had bigger needs than Shiel, they still paid up when they needed to.
Collingwood had significantly greater needs than Beams at the end of 2018, but they still gave up two firsts.

If Cerra asks to leave and nominates Richmond, your club will pay up, the same way you reluctantly parted with pick 6 in a deal for Prestia. The only club that chases players without being prepared to pay up is Essendon.

 

[tiger_tough]

Essendon also had bigger needs than Shield, they still paid up when they needed to.
Collingwood had significantly greater needs than Beams at the end of 2018, but they still gave up two firsts.

If Cerra asks to leave and nominates Richmond, your club will pay up, the same way you reluctantly parted with pick 6 in a deal for Prestia. The only club that chases players without being prepared to pay up is Essendon.

1. Essendon was desperate for midfielders when they got shiel
2. Beams is a great example of why not to give up two first round picks. They wanted Lynch and settled for Beams because we got him. That's bad business.
3. We targeted Prestia to fill a need, that need isn't really there for cerra.
4. Players don't nominate clubs before knowing if said club wants their services and I'm not sure we would.

The only way I could see us chasing him is if Cotchin hangs up the boots this season.

 

[Magpie45]

1. Essendon was desperate for midfielders when they got shiel
2. Beams is a great example of why not to give up two first round picks. They wanted Lynch and settled for Beams because we got him. That's bad business.
3. We targeted Prestia to fill a need, that need isn't really there for cerra.
4. Players don't nominate clubs before knowing if said club wants their services and I'm not sure we would.

The only way I could see us chasing him is if Cotchin hangs up the boots this season.

Essendon needed a tall midfielder. They made Shiel an offer they expected him to reject. There's a reason they pushed hard for Dunkley last year.

Richmond don't need Cerra? Lol, all of Cotchin, Martin, Edwards, Prestia and Lambert are reaching the end. Your club is in big trouble if they don't start looking for talented young mids.

I know you're desperate to cling onto your draft picks, but it's simply not happening in the event of a Cerra trade. Even most Richmond supporters will acknowledge it will likely be two firsts. Just swallow your pride and let it go.

 

[tiger_tough]

Essendon needed a tall midfielder. They made Shiel an offer they expected him to reject. There's a reason they pushed hard for Dunkley last year.

Richmond don't need Cerra? Lol, all of Cotchin, Martin, Edwards, Prestia and Lambert are reaching the end. Your club is in big trouble if they don't start looking for talented young mids.

I know you're desperate to cling onto your draft picks, but it's simply not happening in the event of a Cerra trade. Even most Richmond supporters will acknowledge it will likely be two firsts. Just swallow your pride and let it go.

Essendon needed midfielders full stop.

Martin probably has 4 or 5 years left, prestia is 28 and Edwards seems like he could play on forever like burgoyne. Yes Cotchin is nearly finished. We have RCD, Dow and Martyn coming through who all look promising and Stack if were lucky. Baker has shown he can step into the midfield and dominate.

The point is I doubt we could afford cerra on ~ $750k per year right now. We have Bolton who is better that we need to resign first.

As has been mentioned earlier someone like Cerra would be Ideal in 2 years time. I have no issues giving up 2 first rounders for the right player, I don't think Cerra is that player right now for us. If it was someone like Darcy Moore? No issue.

 

[BlueDay]

Won't go to Carlton.

He says in desperation.....

 

[Magpie45]

He says in desperation.....

If he wants to come back to Victoria, every club would be interested and he will get to choose. He's not going to pick Carlton, the same way Shiel didn't, even when you tried to shower him with luxury.

Nobody is going to go to Carlton if they have the option of joining a serious contender on slightly less money.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

If he wants to come back to Victoria, every club would be interested and he will get to choose. He's not going to pick Carlton, the same way Shiel didn't, even when you tried to shower him with luxury.

Nobody is going to go to Carlton if they have the option of joining a serious contender on slightly less money.

Richmond is the only contender that may go hard for Cerra but they also have other more pressing needs. Footscray and Melbourne don’t need him and Geelong isn’t home.

We’re a big chance if he decides he wants to come back to Vic. Kidding yourself if you think otherwise.