So i'm reaching am i?
That would mean you know what you are talking about hey?
Or is it, what you think is fact, because you think it?
Adam Simpson meets with AFL to discuss the inequalities that interstate teams put up with
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That would mean you know what you are talking about hey?
Or is it, what you think is fact, because you think it?
Except my original point was that only Simon Black had played 300 games for Brisbane. I was summarily told I was wrong, yet nobody, you included, have produced anything to the contrary. Nice try, but no cigar.
It has been proven, do you just ignore posts that prove you wrong?
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Our players and club publicly state that they love the effect interstate travel has on the ability of the group to galvanize as a group. Getting a way from their friends and family, being able to collectively focus and create an us against the word mindset; can be very empowering. Until last season, our away record was very positive but last year our only 4 losses were after travel but I think that points more to the quality of the opposition when we played them than any affect travel had.
In the end we're talking a few hours not days. The impact is negligible and the rewards balance these out. Being in a two team town, with guaranteed high membership/sponsorship through lack of competition is an obvious one. Cost of flights is an obvious negative. In the end to say that players careers are cut short and they receive more injures due to it is per speculation and baseless.
When you can produce cold hard facts that interstate teams are hindered somehow compared to Victorian teams, then I'm happy to see it. At the moment though, especially on the back of a Interstate Premiership, its hard to sympathize.
In the end we're talking a few hours not days. The impact is negligible and the rewards balance these out. Being in a two team town, with guaranteed high membership/sponsorship through lack of competition is an obvious one. Cost of flights is an obvious negative. In the end to say that players careers are cut short and they receive more injures due to it is per speculation and baseless.
When you can produce cold hard facts that interstate teams are hindered somehow compared to Victorian teams, then I'm happy to see it. At the moment though, especially on the back of a Interstate Premiership, its hard to sympathize.
The best one i read was a couple of years back, when someone said you are at risk of getting cancer if you fly.
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Adelaide have won 10 from 14 finals at home. They’ve won 7 from 15 at the mcg.
Vic clubs have won 11 of 52 finals interstate. You can’t just fob stats like that off because one side was above the other on the ladder. These are all teams similar in strength, only separated by a win or 2. Imagine if the grand final were held at the highest ranked teams home ground, what would the results have been then?
Whatever research you’ve done applies to other sports, where players all travel around playing on standard sized courts, pitches, playing on one another’s grounds equally and playing best of finals series or having a neutral venue for a championship game.
We play in a league where everyone plays on irregular sized grounds, and some teams travel twice as much as others - trying to get prepared for matches on the other side of the country coming off six day breaks, facing teams that may have not left home for months. We hold the grand final on a ground where some clubs play 14 times a year, while others may only play there once. All these factors means that home ground advantage plays a larger part in our game and on grand final day, it doesn’t diminish it.
Is that supposed to support your argument?
When Adelaide are the better team they win more than when they are the poorer team...gee groundbreaking stuff!
In non GF MCG finals they are 5 from 12, 42%...which is basically the same as their H&A record.
In GFs they are 2 from 3, much better.
WC are the same, they have a 41% win rate at the G in HA, this actually drops to just 20% in non GF MCG finals but then come the GF they are 4 from 6.
Almost as if any HGA is diminished in the GF!!
Similar in strength...yeah of course.
1st v 8th or 1st v 4th, they ain’t similar strength.
LOL
Yeah ignore research that actually attempts to qualify what HGA actually is and just go with what you ‘feel’.
Somes up the WA sooking, we think we are disadvantaged so that is good enough for us!
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Obviously you know more about it than the coaches then. DH
^^Stupid, nothing more nothing less, dead set, hands down stupid.
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Has anybody even tried to design a fixture that can allow for relatively equal travel and blockbuster games to be played in primetime?
Is that supposed to tell me you are tough hey? calling someone a DH on the net.
I think that says more about you than me.
Ok now i got that off my chest.
If a coach has said something different, i'm sure you will be able to find a quote from them hey?
Let's see it.
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Perhaps your original point was 300 for brisbane, but you then clarified and said playing 300 outside of Melbourne. Sydney is outside of Melbourne.
There would be many who think the AFL do this for Collingwood and then let the computer do the rest.
It's wrong anyway, Marcus Ashcroft also played 300 for Brisbane
Of course they do, that's why i want it changed,to give WC a fair go
Of course they do, that's why i want it changed,to give WC a fair go
Be no fun if they changed it mate.
Yeah, the 12 team VFL was perfect.
They let the Eagles in and then the sooking about it being unfair that every other week they had to fly whilst the vic teams didn’t began...and it hasn’t stopped since.
It ain’t ever going to stop either as more and more people who know nothing about footy latch on to the AFL as it’s the cool thing to do. And that is Australia wide.
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Imagine 'sooking' about obvious inequalities. We get it, the Eagles joined the VFL and some inequalities will be impossible to eliminate. But some Victorians need to stop whinging about whinging and understand they accepted the Eagles and Brisbane (and the rest) into the league, they chose to adapt from a suburban league to a national league, they now have to accept change. I get it, change is big and scary, but sticking your head in the sand isn't going to hold it back.
WtF is this post?
What Doppleganger said is correct, as soon as WC entered the league, the whinging started and hasn't stopped.
Go find me where Victorians haven't accepted change, there is nowhere near the crying about changes as to what there is with WC crying for them.
Travel, travel, travel, that's all i see on here, but we travel, well fmd, you live on the other side of the country.
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The grand final at the MCG. The mere thought of change has Victorians shaking. I mean, you may no longer be 'the sporting capital of Australia'.
Really? i can't speak for others, but i am all for it being moved, what i find funny is, it's going to be here for a long time yet, and you say we are shaking.
I ask:
Why would Vics be shaking when most will be gone when/if it is ever moved?
