Coach Adam Simpson Megathread est. 2017 - Staying for 2024, Lyon’s Cryin’

[bzparkes]

Or Robert Wohpol

Or that bald guy with glasses in the coaches' box, who nobody ever seems to know who he is.

 

[Nuke Fremantle]

Or Robert Wohpol

Isn't he coaching the Beagles?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Or that bald guy with glasses in the coaches' box, who nobody ever seems to know who he is.

The Dean from Community?

 

[Bender_]

The Dean from Community?

I thought it may have been the Monopoly man but then I remembered he wears a monocle.

 

[Obeanie1]

I think we all know a coach is highly unlikely to see out a rebuild this massive, but sacking Simpson at this point will achieve nothing but give people a head on a stake during a tough time. Who the coach is for the next couple of years isn't our biggest problem because nobody is getting anything out of this squad. If Simmo wants to stick around to see out his contract to take the bullets that will come, then maybe that gives his successor a cleaner run at it.

We all know what got us into this mess, a decade of poor drafting and list management. Our National draft selections (excluding rookie upgrades) read like an absolute dumpster fire.
2011 - M Newman, F McInnes
2012 - B Colledge, A Carter, M Hutchings
2013 - D Sheed, M Karpany, T Barrass, D Main
2014 - L Duggan, T Lamb, J Nelson, D Cavka, A Waterman
2015 - L Partington, T Cole, K Mutimer, M Allen
2016 - D Venables, J Rotham, W Rioli, J Waterman
2017 - J Brander, O Allen, L Ryan, B Ainsworth, J Petruccelle, H Brayshaw
2018 - X Oneil, L Foley, B Williams, J Cameron
2019 - C Jamieson, B Johnson
2020 - L Edwards, I Winder

Of our first selections from 2011 - 2017 only 2 remain, so were relying on a bunch of injured 30+ year olds to hold on. We weren't operating with top 10 picks during that time but there are far too many busts in that list for us to be competitive now. Nisbett has been a fantastic servant of the club but he really needs to take responsibly for the state of it now and its time for change. Getting an off field team in place that is going to nail the next 3-4 drafts and put the next premiership list together the only thing I care about at the moment. Coach talk is just noise.

The problem is the soft cap.

Whilst shovelling sh!t during a rebuild we are paying top dollar for a proven coach holding a crap hand of cards to play with.

Are we better off spending $500k less on a coach and using that $500k on more development coaches,S&C upgrades, better scouting etc?

Spend the money where we get the best return in the next 2 to 3 years. Not on a high paid coach who won't be taking us to finals.

That's the point being raised by many on here. And a valid one.

 

[Chris_6678]

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Goss question to Paul Fitzpatrick: “The only way Adam Simpson is not going to be coaching the West Coast Eagles is if Adam Simpson quits?” Paul Fitzpatrick: Yes, right now as it stands… things always change in football but as it stands right now that’s correct.”

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

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Goss question to Paul Fitzpatrick: “The only way Adam Simpson is not going to be coaching the West Coast Eagles is if Adam Simpson quits?” Paul Fitzpatrick: Yes, right now as it stands… things always change in football but as it stands right now that’s correct.”

Lock the thread?

 

[eaglesfan84]

I think we need a proper impartial review of the club.

There's no point acting on anything until we can locate and digest where the issues are. This probably means if the couple of important people at the top don't have the balls to make some tough decisions then we might need to move them on and bring in someone who can. No boys club anymore. Go for best in country.

 

[DanWCE]

Multiple media taking this Nizzy 2024 contract and running with it. Did the Chairman confirm that? All Ive heard is medium term.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

I think we need a proper impartial review of the club.

There's no point acting on anything until we can locate and digest where the issues are. This probably means if the couple of important people at the top don't have the balls to make some tough decisions then we might need to move them on and bring in someone who can. No boys club anymore. Go for best in country.

And Mr Fitzpatrick pissed all over that idea because apparently we always do reviews all the time and our board and football management are very experienced. Although he did say at the moment. Simmo has a job unless he quits "at the moment". Justin Langer is likely to be leading the end of year review into the club management. Tbh he isn't a man who is likely to tread gently in his criticism so I guess that was reassuring.

 

[Rowan18]

Or that bald guy with glasses in the coaches' box, who nobody ever seems to know who he is.

Simmo explained this a few years ago. He's the data analytics guy and he sits next to Simmo so he can quickly pull up whatever data Simmo needs to see.

A friend of a friend used to do the same job for Freo with Ross Lyon, but they sat him well away from the coach.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Or that bald guy with glasses

He's the data analytics guy

Checks out

 

[Bender_]

A friend of a friend used to do the same job for Freo with Ross Lyon, but they sat him well away from the coach.

Did he have developing breasts?

 

[Rowan18]

Did he have developing breasts?

You can't be too careful around Ross.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Simmo: Mate how many kick outs this quarter have come to the near side?

Data bloke:

 

[Ishmael_]

Not sure about his habit of giving out two year contracts to ageing and breaking players willy nilly

Mmm, I don't disagree.

A charitable reading would be that those were offered so we have some experienced coverage as the cohort behind is almost non-existent.

A less charitable and probably more likely reading given our recent ineptitude, would be that we thought things would magically turn around and they'd be on the park and part of our next push.

Regardless, I'd blame the demographic cliff on his predecessors.

 

[bh90210fan]

Or that bald guy with glasses in the coaches' box, who nobody ever seems to know who he is.

That’s Ben Sharman I’m pretty sure.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

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Goss question to Paul Fitzpatrick: “The only way Adam Simpson is not going to be coaching the West Coast Eagles is if Adam Simpson quits?” Paul Fitzpatrick: Yes, right now as it stands… things always change in football but as it stands right now that’s correct.”

Applying a time dependent caveat is comical.

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[Deplorable trumpster]

And Mr Fitzpatrick pissed all over that idea because apparently we always do reviews all the time and our board and football management are very experienced. Although he did say at the moment. Simmo has a job unless he quits "at the moment". Justin Langer is likely to be leading the end of year review into the club management. Tbh he isn't a man who is likely to tread gently in his criticism so I guess that was reassuring.

So the people who made the cumulative sum of all the decisions and actions/non - actions that led us to where we are now are going to review themselves and decide whether they should be held to account for the outcomes of that sum of decisions and actions/non - actions. Sounds very impartial.

 

[ziad]

And Mr Fitzpatrick pissed all over that idea because apparently we always do reviews all the time and our board and football management are very experienced. Although he did say at the moment. Simmo has a job unless he quits "at the moment". Justin Langer is likely to be leading the end of year review into the club management. Tbh he isn't a man who is likely to tread gently in his criticism so I guess that was reassuring.

Langer is Ideal - elite (real elite) high performance experience. Most in the footy industry and well below elite, in comparison to world sport, and heavily tainted buy preconceptions and agenda.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Multiple media taking this Nizzy 2024 contract and running with it. Did the Chairman confirm that? All Ive heard is medium term.

They are not denying it either. And every member of that Board plus the club would have had their phone ringing from many multiple media outlets today asking them to confirm or deny it.

 

[ziad]

Applying a time dependent caveat is comical.

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Its called the real world.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

So the people who made the cumulative sum of all the decisions and actions/non - actions that led us to where we are now are going to review themselves and decide whether they should be held to account for the outcomes of that sum of decisions and actions/non - actions. Sounds very impartial.

That's apparently how we roll. We roll over the next 2 weeks which looks very likely and we will see how long that lasts.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Langer is Ideal - elite (real elite) high performance experience. Most in the footy industry and well below elite, in comparison to world sport, and heavily tainted buy preconceptions and agenda.

He's a no bullshit operator but the shields are up at the club which worries me about real change that moves us forward. Hopefully we get a dead cat bounce to keep the hope alive this year.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

That's apparently how we roll. We roll over the next 2 weeks which looks very likely and we will see how long that lasts.

I was thinking the same thing. Another couple of 100 point losses or thereabouts in the next half a dozen games would seal things.

I like Langer. Loved him as a player and was disgusted with how the NSW clique plus Finch and his 2IC McDonald stabbed him in the back when he was coaching. But even Langer doing a review has problems. He works for the club/Board. He is dependent on the club for a pay cheque. He is friends and work colleagues with people who will want the review to go in certain directions (and not other directions) in certain places. That is not really clean enough. To have total credibility it needs to be done by a group of people who are just hired to do a review and do not work for the club on an ongoing basis, and who do not know/are not mates with anybody who is a subject of a review or has an interest in the outcome of the review. Especially since there are clearly factions and forces at the club who are hostile to the entire concept of a review.