Traded Adam Treloar [traded with #26, #33 and #42 to Bulldogs for #14 and 2021 R2]

[Footy Smarts]

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NO! You mean the final outcome is what anyone with the slightest bit of logic could see from a mile away?

 

[Dr Tigris]

The only one they can muster anything is to tell further lies

Come out and say. No, no we didnt say anything about trading him because of him family situation next year.

Were happy to keep Treloar but we need to find some space in the cap for the future. Unfortunately one of our better players had to be considered in a move and we feel for us its best and him if that is Treloar.

They still end up between a rock and a hard place. If treloar decides to stay and force a payout, one way or another, they are not legally allowed to not pay him out. This looks liek a very strange situation. His salary is too high for another club to want to take him on. And his trade value is fairly low now. Interesting times.

 

[Keystone agony]

They still end up between a rock and a hard place. If treloar decides to stay and force a payout, one way or another, they are not legally allowed to not pay him out. This looks liek a very strange situation. His salary is too high for another club to want to take him on. And his trade value is fairly low now. Interesting times.

Its hard to know exactly what his salary is? is it 900k a year for the next 4 years?

Those comments will just to keep getting clubs interested. Obviously the pies would need to pay some of his cap. But for me Treloars probably a 6-700k footballer so its not exuberant. Richmond were prepared to pay that when he moved and just about all clubs wouldve jumped out that. Injuries start to come good for most from that 26-29 yr age. When the body seems its most stable.

He still has explosive speed, he probably needs a full PS to feel even more confident about his body. His kicking is probably not as bad as many are stating. Many mids struggle with disposal and thats mainly due to the extreme pressure players are under. His handball and short kicks are fine.

 

[TheKITC]

I don't see why the AFL don't go down the path of the NBA & NFL where the contract is actually with the AFL not the club

That is already the case in order to subvert / comply with restraint of trade and other legalities around the salary cap and player movement regulations.

Better legal minds have better explanations, but essentially everyone is directly employed by the AFL and the clubs are allowed to operate within the frameworks that are set with levels of autonomy.

 

[B4Bear]

After all the whining and justifications and gaslighting of TA and his family.

He has a 5 year contract will the Pies, and he will get every penny owed to him.

EAD Eddie, what a scumbag you have shown yourself to be.

 

[Damo666]

What happens to Treloar if Degoey is found guilty in 2 days time?

thought it was a hearing and not the trial starting

 

[Jen2310]

thought it was a hearing and not the trial starting

its even less than that.
Its a naming hearing, just to hear the charges and put it in the system.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

lol what a **** up this is.

 

[old55]

The Inside Out video from 2018 seems a long time ago now:

Collingwood documentary shows some of the toughest moments in footy players' careers

From Adam Treloar's struggles with his mental health, to the delisting of a nine-year veteran, to the sombre scenes in the locker room after losing the AFL grand final — the new documentary looking at the Magpies' 2018 season gives unprecedented behind-the-scenes access to the goings on at an...

www.abc.net.au

 

[Giant Pete]

Why wouldn’t North just take him on? Front end his contract... wouldn’t have to give up much in terms of picks...

 

[B4Bear]

Why wouldn’t North just take him on? Front end his contract... wouldn’t have to give up much in terms of picks...

Does he improve the rebuild or slow it down? The club has decided on a pathway, does he fit their plans?

 

[Giant Pete]

Does he improve the rebuild or slow it down? The club has decided on a pathway, does he fit their plans?

You can still do a rebuild. One quality midfielder coming in would balance out the young kids you’ll have.

 

[Therealsaint]

Why wouldn’t North just take him on? Front end his contract... wouldn’t have to give up much in terms of picks...

Treloar wouldn't go to north

 

[Duckenthusiast]

Such as?

Signing up a ruckman to a 7x 1 mil deal, only to have him be ordinary first year in. Rumored (not sure if true) massive contract for Mason Cox

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. Allowed De Goey to drag on the way it has. He should've have had a final offer put to him weeks ago and told in no uncertain terms that if he didn't sign it within a week or 2, they would spend his money on someone else and consider him as already having left. The Wells deal which has created some of the problems in the first place. The Treloar deal where he has been constantly backed ended, so your club is now looking at him as poor value moving forward because they have got him on the cheap for years. Potentially allowing Mihocek to walk because you couldn't come up with a fair market rate offer to him. Having all of these contract situations happening all at once, on top of having to sign Darcy Moore

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. That is straight up incompetence. Every club has a hiccup, but the only worse situation I can think of is Carlton breaching the salary cap while being at the bottom of the ladder. That behavior is worse for morale and future trading than the way Adelaide has carried on. You have massively overpaid marque players, breeding jealousy and mistrust. You are trying to push out contracted players with dirty deals where you get Treloar for 5-600k, but GC need to pay him 900k (unless you are paying part of his contract for the entire 5 years, which you wont). You have expected important contributors to play for peanuts, while under performers are being paid 2-2.5x as much. This could wipe you out for years.

 

[Duckenthusiast]

We've only got 6 players, including Treloar, contracted past 2021. A lot of flexibility for the future as it is.

Why do people act like back/front ending is a surprising, scandalous thing? I would assume most multi-year deals are structured to have players get the most money during what should be their prime years, and also accommodate the list around them.

I really see this moreso as "the Pies would like to spend the money in a different way", than "OMG, cap squeeze, they don't know what they're doing, LOL!"

It makes sense in certain situations. If we don't land a big fish, It makes sense for us to bring all of our payments forward in 2021, so we don't lose any of the saved up space. If you back ended a deal and a won a flag, you look like geniuses. If you back end a deal, don't win a flag, and are now losing quality players over it, that's stupid.

 

[Duckenthusiast]

Its hard to know exactly what his salary is? is it 900k a year for the next 4 years?

Those comments will just to keep getting clubs interested. Obviously the pies would need to pay some of his cap. But for me Treloars probably a 6-700k footballer so its not exuberant. Richmond were prepared to pay that when he moved and just about all clubs wouldve jumped out that. Injuries start to come good for most from that 26-29 yr age. When the body seems its most stable.

He still has explosive speed, he probably needs a full PS to feel even more confident about his body. His kicking is probably not as bad as many are stating. Many mids struggle with disposal and thats mainly due to the extreme pressure players are under. His handball and short kicks are fine.

Given the claims have been not been corrected for 48 hours, I think it is safe to assume they are close to the mark. The article is defamatory if it is not true. Eddie would be throwing molotov cocktails into all the media outlets if it weren't true.

 

[Deleted member 2402071]

Treloar wouldn't go to north

He doesn’t really have the luxury of being too picky if the Pies want him gone and he won’t leave Victoria. Horrible situation.

 

[Duckenthusiast]

He doesn’t really have the luxury of being too picky if the Pies want him gone and he won’t leave Victoria. Horrible situation.

Yeah he does. He says, 'I'm not ****ing going anywhere. I was tossing up between Richmond and Collingwood, and you mother****ers sold me on being a more professional outfit. You forced me to further backend my first contract after it was backended in the first place and are now complaining that the bill has come due. Pay me what I am owed or I'll sue you and talk to every journalist in the country about how I was treated like a piece of shit'. The idea that Collingwood have any leverage in this situation is laughable.

 

[Duskfire]

He doesn’t really have the luxury of being too picky if the Pies want him gone and he won’t leave Victoria. Horrible situation.

Do they have a choice in the matter? The contract exists, I expect you can't just rip it off.

I imagine what will happen is Treloar will find a club who will take him, and Collingwood will have to work with that particular club. They have no leverage here. Especially with how they have handled the situation.

 

[Lockatronicus]

Id take him at the blues if we could het him relatively cheap

 

[B4Bear]

Id take him at the blues if we could het him relatively cheap

He isn’t cheap, hence the conundrum.

 

[mpal6]

Why wouldn’t North just take him on? Front end his contract... wouldn’t have to give up much in terms of picks...

So North Melbourne reserves next year - Polec on one wing and Treloar on the other wing, both on big $$$, both apparently hard to coach players.

You must really hate North.

 

[hawkman]

Why wouldn’t North just take him on? Front end his contract... wouldn’t have to give up much in terms of picks...

Brown for Treloar straight swap. Neither wanted at their current club

 

[kreglze]

Treloar would go well at North, only issue would be is he would be at a rebuilding club and wouldn't be seeing a lot of W's. Though with the way it is playing out, he may not mind as long as he keeps his wages and gets to stay in Melbourne.

 

[camcam]

Is there even any clubs expressing interest besides the suns who have since cooled on him ?

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[TylerDurden]

Brown for Treloar straight swap. Neither wanted at their current club

Actually don't mind it.