Autopsy Adelaide d Geelong by 15 points

[Stan The Caddy]

Nah not having a go at you or anyone.
It's just that it was obvious he would be shite last night.
Just like its obvious he'll play really well when we play Brissy at KP in a couple of weeks.

I know mate. All good. I think that with him and Guthrie it's more of a coaching issue. People say that coping with pressure can't be taught but it actually can. I've seen it be taught. Why on gods green earth they're not instructed to take the first option more often is beyond me. They're not Joel Selwood or Gary Ablett where they can take an extra second to weigh up a few options and then decide. They don't think quickly enough. If the coaches kept it simpler for them I think that they would be much better players under pressure. They expect them to play like superstars when they're not. That's the biggest problem.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Because it's just a job to them now. Their opponents are more like University colleagues who work in different firms rather than rivals to be torched no matter what. May not be what people expect but I reckon that's much closer to the reality.

Rather than university colleagues, many of them have been friends for 10 or even 20 years, ever since they played with and against each other in elite comps as far back as the age of 12 or 13.

 

[Stan The Caddy]

4 doesnt justify the vitroel. Others had a lot more. And disposal efficiency of 88 means two were borderline and overall a pretty good night. But just keep ignoring the de.

We had players with 50 percent de last night. Not hitting targets half the time and you have a go at the guy going nearly 90 percent with hitting targets.

Guthrie was putrid last night mate. He was without doubt a liability for the first 3 quarters at least. I don't give a **** what the stats say.

 

[Seeds]

Guthrie was putrid last night mate. He was without doubt a liability for the first 3 quarters at least. I don't give a **** what the stats say.

Stats dont lie. Anyone who ignores stats cos it doesnt fit with their poor and biased memory is not worth speaking too.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Stats dont lie. Anyone who ignores stats cos it doesnt fit with their poor and biased memory is not worth speaking too.

What about the stat of directly giving up 3 easy goals when we only lost by 15 points.
Probs shouldn't ignore that one.

 

[Seeds]

What about the stat of directly giving up 3 easy goals when we only lost by 15 points.
Probs shouldn't ignore that one.

Very bad plays but was a bit unlucky in that his clangers cost goals where others equally bad, more numerous and in some case worse clanger didnt due to nothing but luck. There were multiple players who had double his clangers. Parfitt went at 27 percent de compared to guthries 88. The only reason you remember guthries and not the others is guthries cost goals and perhaps in some posters anti guthrie bias to boost.

 

[Stan The Caddy]

Stats dont lie. Anyone who ignores stats cos it doesnt fit with their poor and biased memory is not worth speaking too.

Lol, only one "O" mate.

And yes, stats can tell a story that belies the truth. This is a perfect example of it.

 

[Seeds]

Lol, only one "O" mate.

And yes, stats can tell a story that belies the truth. This is a perfect example of it.

Stats tell a simplistic story but an accurate one. Stats have perfect memory and remember 100 percent of the game. Your average football support remembers 5 per cent of the game and im probably being generous there.

 

[CatFan79]

Stats dont lie. Anyone who ignores stats cos it doesnt fit with their poor and biased memory is not worth speaking too.

Worst 130 game player for as long as I can remember...

Needs 100% efficiency to be at all useful.. all he can do is receive don't forget his disposal white effective at times is not damaging at all.. what are his metres gained?

BTW a handball to a player under pressure is effective... Guthrie passes the buck more than anyone but what's the net gain?

Absolute dud.

 

[Stan The Caddy]

Stats tell a simplistic story but an accurate one. Stats have perfect memory and remember 100 percent of the game. Your average football support remembers 5 per cent of the game and im probably being generous there.

Lol, you would know. Keep relying on the stats sheet to form your opinions Seedsy but I'd say that your intelligence levels would be in the bottom 5% of the population so your observation probably makes complete sense to you.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Very bad plays but was a bit unlucky in that his clangers cost goals where others equally bad, more numerous and in some case worse clanger didnt due to nothing but luck. There were multiple players who had double his clangers. Parfitt went at 27 percent de compared to guthries 88. The only reason you remember guthries and not the others is guthries cost goals and perhaps in some posters anti guthrie bias to boost.

I'm glad we're a club that doesn't make excuses.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Lol, you would know. Keep relying on the stats sheet to form your opinions Seedsy but I'd say that your intelligence levels would be in the bottom 5% of the population so your observation probably makes complete sense to you.

Well now. Didn't you try and chastise me for being rather turse with cynical.
I think the middle ground here is the one that's correct.

His turnovers were awful but was nowhere near as bad as has been made out to be.
Same applies for Kolo.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I'm glad we're a club that doesn't make excuses.

Yes because Seeds is within the 4 walls so what he says makes a difference
Listen to yourself Spazz.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Yes because Seeds is within the 4 walls so what he says makes a difference
Listen to yourself Spazz.

Was having a bit of a joke there Doc.

 

[peerless]

Didn't see much of the game last night, was Buzza as bad as the non-Geelong supporters at work were telling me today?

 

[The Bandwagon]

Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that some of our blokes, in particular Hawkins, regularly get rubbed out for minor indiscretions that no-one else gets suspended for despite doing the same thing, so players are less inclined to remonstrate.

Maybe. I see Tex received only a week. He's lucky he was wearing the right coloured jumper.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Maybe. I see Tex received only a week. He's lucky he was wearing the right coloured jumper.

Or more accurately Touhy played on. Suspensions based on outcomes not intention or action leads to inconsistency.
As soon as Tuohy passed the concussion test and came back on he was getting no more than a week.

 

[Hamingja]

Didn't see much of the game last night, was Buzza as bad as the non-Geelong supporters at work were telling me today?

Worse.

Dropped half a dozen marks.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

We wouldn't have enough players available to field a side in a month if we did that, considering we have blokes who get a week's suspension for laying a textbook tackle.

True, I forgot about the automatic Geelong penalty with the MRP, ie if you play for Geelong you get a penalty.

 

[The Bandwagon]

Or more accurately Touhy played on. Suspensions based on outcomes not intention or action leads to inconsistency.
As soon as Tuohy passed the concussion test and came back on he was getting no more than a week.

The after effects of Hawkons love tap last year must have been severe for him to receive two weeks. The system was supposedly being fixed this year. it's far from it.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Blitz was the worst player on the field. Followed by Buzza then Guthrie. I Honestly cannot believe how much Guthrie fumbles the ball. Surely his nick name at the club is butter fingers.

 

[Stan The Caddy]

Well now. Didn't you try and chastise me for being rather turse with cynical.
I think the middle ground here is the one that's correct.

His turnovers were awful but was nowhere near as bad as has been made out to be.
Same applies for Kolo.

I've got no issue with Kola. I thought that he was pretty good last night and has been pretty good all year with a few bad games mixed in between.

Watching the game last night Guthrie was horrendous mate. He was good the two weeks prior but last night he was shithouse. No two ways about it. His turnovers were unforced and really hurt us at crucial times when he should have looked after the ball better. Not good enough from a senior player and this is coming from someone who actually isn't a Guthrie hater.

 

[peerless]

Worse.

Dropped half a dozen marks.

Couple of blokes asked me 'Who's the dud with the hair bun?

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Ablett's efficiency rating was about the same as his usual, though artificially inflated (as it always has been) by the number of short give-and-go handpasses and the number of long kicks to a contest.

I wasn't basing my assessment on actual stats per se, just what I saw with my own eyes and his poor kicking caused a number of crucial turnovers against the Crows. I expect better from a player of his ilk.

 

[Stan The Caddy]

Didn't see much of the game last night, was Buzza as bad as the non-Geelong supporters at work were telling me today?

Yeah, he was pretty bad.