Coach Adelaide under Matthew Nicks

[Taper]

Nicks has coached the Crows to wins against Carlton and Essendon on the road this year.
Last year, the Crows only win on the road was by a kick against 16th placed Hawthorn.

Signs of progress under Nicks?

 

[hippyhippy]

Nicks has coached the Crows to wins against Carlton and Essendon on the road this year.
Last year, the Crows only win on the road was by a kick against 16th placed Hawthorn.

Signs of progress under Nicks?

Nope... Nicks isn't going to get us anywhere

 

[Taper]

Nope... Nicks isn't going to get us anywhere

This year could be a step backwards in order to take two steps forward.
Fremantle are the most recent example of this, one step backwards last year and two steps forward this year.

 

[Altum Volantes]

This year could be a step backwards in order to take two steps forward.
Fremantle are the most recent example of this, one step backwards last year and two steps forward this year.

Freo finished 5th and won a final 2 years ago - Adelaide haven’t even made the finals yet.

 

[Rod Stroker]

don't get why this guy escapes heat. I've never really rated him. Crows have gone backwards this year, now in the bottom 4.

 

[Freomaniac]

Crows haven't played finals for 7 years, so it's understandable the fans are getting restless.
However, David King makes a good point about Nicks not having the cattle and rebuilding teams often take one step back to go two steps forward.

Yep and that means the rebuild has been flawed.

I also agree that Nick's doesn't have the cattle.

That 2020 draft when they got the spoon. They got tilthorpe, Luke Pedlar, Brayden cook and Rowe.

Tilthorpe is a KPF ruck.

Pedlar is solid but he is a solid outside mid and forward flanker.

I like Brayden cook. I am biased because he is from my SANFL club the South Adelaide Panthers. But like pedlar, he is an outside mid or a flanker, not the inside mid the crows need.

Rowe played 38 games in 2 seasons and was cut. Why would you invest that amount of games into him and get rid of him?

I have seen many blokes get rotated and play 30 games in 4 or 5 or even 6 years on a list.

 

[Freomaniac]

Yeah…. and that’s got you…. all the way to…… something……

Those 4 players... Ryan , Darcy, Brayshaw and Serong. Those 4 would improve your list considerably and make your side a top 8 side.

Crows could of easily got Ryan and Darcy in the 2016 draft.

Serong? Well him and Hayden young were both taken after the crows pick 6 in that 2019 draft.

Again.... I look at the crows list. Back 6 is solid despite the loss to the hawks today.

Forward line has talent in Tilthorpe, Fogarty, Rankine and Rachele.

An elite inside mid or 2 would improve the crows.

 

[fuic08]

don't get why this guy escapes heat. I've never really rated him. Crows have gone backwards this year, now in the bottom 4.

A better coach would have made finals this year, as much as others say he doesn't have the cattle.

 

[Purple7x08_24]

Blames effort on the playing group, excuses for Dawson and Rankine. Thinks he's the right man for the job, thinks he's got the right playing group but they just need time. Keayes absolutely stank it up today and he's an experienced player. Rachele is 50% of his ability.

I put it squarly on lack of leadship and particularly starting with a poor quality coach.


This guy is deluded.

 

[fnerd]

Is Alan Richardson mk ll

 

[Rod Stroker]

If he was given the arse this year, who should replace him?

 

[kozi]

If he was given the arse this year, who should replace him?

Hinkley

 

[revo333]

He was pretty happy with himself after his zinger about Draper and beating Essendon.

I guess a week can be a long time in football.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Hinkley

At least he can actually make finals.

 

[Clark G]

If he was given the arse this year, who should replace him?

Unlikely to occur. But if it did, Crows should start with calls to Simpson and Goodwin.

 

[Freomaniac]

Is Alan Richardson mk ll

You might have a point .

I look at Alan Richardson and his 6 years at the saints.

2014 and 2015. Saints were bottom 6.

2016 and 2017. Saints had decent seasons. Finishes out side the top 8 both seasons. Saints older players did well too. Saints had minimal injuries both seasons.

2018 and 2019. Older players retire and decline. Saints have injuries and finish bottom 6.

Crows in 2023 reminded me of saints in 2016-7 to be fair.

 

[Freomaniac]

At least he can actually make finals.

I don't think Hinkley is a terrible coach. The port Adelaide playing squad is good. Usually finish mid table most years. Between 5th to 12th which isn't bad if you can tolerate 5th to 8th spots for 2 or 3 or even 4 years in a row.

But that's for a totally different thread

 

[The Karma Bus]

It is both recruiting and coaching

Dawson and Rankine fell in our lap, OOC crows supporters who wanted to come home and we were loaded with $$$. Max is probably our next best talent and he is a FS. Just pure luck really.

Enough has been said about 7 years of majority failed first rounders. McAsey was a KPD who doesnt intercept not sure what went through their brain to take him at 6.

We are offering Yeo big $ and also threw the sink at Oliver and Petty. It's like giving a 7 year old a credit card. We have Fog, Thilt and Welsh next year, why are we offering 2 firsts for Petty offer a handful of games playing forward.

Development is on the coaches. We move Laird out of the midfield for not playing well in Q4 last week, only for him to play there full time this week while all the kids play wing/hf. Funny thing is Soligo trained to play wing in preseason, only went inside because the midfield was copping abuse in the media non stop. We persist with Murphy and McHenry who everyone knows are not AFL standard while Dowling gets 30 in the SANFL every week, only getting a chance due to Crouch injury and plays better than either of them ever had. And Crouch would be leading our BnF and he is only playing because Laird was out for a week last year.

Nicks needs to go, Hamish needs to go, Reid needs to go and Roo needs to go. Silvers is also a PR spin machine and I'm not sure he's the answer. We are used to having the most useless CEOs in the country in Trigg and Fagan the bar is as low as possible.

The whole thing is a mess.

The following is my opinion.

Reid Sr engineered the Tippett cheating deal. Then we hire his agent son to be our list manager, Reid jr sucks.
Adam Kelly is an incompetent and unqualified football operations manager.
Matthew Nicks is an incompetent coach.
Hamish Ogilvie is a terrible recruiter.
Michael Godden is a total loser (Trump voice)
Nathan Van Berlo is a Neil Craig disciple
Roo has a face for radio, voice for print and loves getting jobs for his mates, football director on the board, shouldn't be anywhere near the club in any capacity.
Our development of players is awful.

Get rid of them all.

Bad admin, bad drafting, bad development, bad coaching.

We got talent-less hacks on the field, in the coaches box and on the board.

Nailed.

No one holds anyone to account down there unless you **** up to the mess extent of the camp and even then it took extreme supporter and media backlash and heat for a review to occur.
Then, only due to what they were told by the reviewers did they finally move one or 2 on.

Other than that, you have a job for as long as you want it. You let us know when you'd like to go, retire, whatever. No accountability, no requirement of fresh eyes. No performance requirement.

We used to turn late picks and rookie picks into good players, now we can't even turn good picks into decent players. A mix of drafting, development and coaching.
So many parts are a mess.

 

[JPetro83]

He has until mid-year next season... if they aren't in the 8 by Round 12 and playing good footy he is gone!
Unfortunately they won't sack him this year.

 

[JPetro83]

If he was given the arse this year, who should replace him?

The Crows cant afford to go another first time rookie coach. I would be throwing money at Buckley. But the issues are deeper at the crows. They need to look at a whole new recruiting team.. poach people who are working at successful clubs.

 

[JPetro83]

don't get why this guy escapes heat. I've never really rated him. Crows have gone backwards this year, now in the bottom 4.

North will play finals before the crows do.

 

[Purple7x08_24]

Here's a key contrast between Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

and Matthew Nicks

Matthew Nicks

Age

49

Ht

187cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.6

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.4

3star

Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

has full faith in Tanner Bruhn and plays him in the midfield in a very talented team, whereas Nicks continues to play the older guys in the midfield who are constantly failing.

Here's the difference between a good and bad coach.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Nicks is a good coach imo. Crows will rise under him.

 

[Taper]

I don't think Hinkley is a terrible coach. The port Adelaide playing squad is good. Usually finish mid table most years. Between 5th to 12th which isn't bad if you can tolerate 5th to 8th spots for 2 or 3 or even 4 years in a row.

But that's for a totally different thread

Hinkley has had Port in finals contention every year of his tenure.
The only other club that's been in finals contention every year for the last 12 years, is my club.

Nicks has had Adelaide in finals contention once in five years.
Next year the pass mark for him to keep his job, set by the Crows board would be finals contention.

 

[Taper]

Nicks is a good coach imo. Crows will rise under him.

I've posted this elsewhere, but Nicks is underrated and has done a good job when you remember what he walked into.
Clarkson and Hardwick get credit for building Hawthorn and Richmond from the bottom up, but reality is both sides already had their future core of young stars in place.
Nicks has had to build the core himself, and oversee a complete overhaul of the culture and football department at Adelaide.