Unofficial Preview Adelaide v Richmond - Grand Final Pre-Game/Banter Thread

[Cdog71]

Where have you been for the past few years? The AFL is concerned about the head first and foremost (rightly so), but part of this they have gone about it the wrong way. It doesn't matter if it is what we consider a 'football collision' vs a bump, but if you want to go that way he 'choose' to bump instead of just a collision because he tucked in his arm ready to bump. The ' ' parts are because that is what the AFL Tribunal is often quoting as part of their decision explanations. They look at the results of the collision/bump and when a player has to leave the ground and not take further part is looked upon a bit more severely.

Yeah and it's a little convenient now that there's a stat saying that 20% of concussions can present after a delay....
A tidy way for the medical staff to avoid culpability.
I don't think the afl would want as sticky an argument as that could become in a court they can't lean on..
Just sayin

 

[adelaidecrows]

Unlike Geelong we aren't waiting for you to choke and fold.

You can play your best, our best is simply better.

Look at it line by line.

Your forwards vs our defenders? No offense but what forwards?

Your mids vs our mids? even as long as Dusty is here and not forward

Your backs vs our forwards? Rance got destroyed last time you played us and after that... you don't have anyone of note.

Adelaide V Richmond Lineups based on AFL website selection

Adelaide Backs v Richmond Forwards
F: Daniel Rioli, Jack Rewioldt, Dan Butler
B: Rory Laird, Daniel Talia, Jake Lever

HF: Kane Lambert, Dustin Martin, Josh Caddy
HB: Luke Brown, Kyle Hartigan, Paul Seedsman

Other defensive options for Crows - Andy Otten, Jake Kelly

Form Guide Finals
- Adelaide's defence has conceded just 123 points Av 61.5 points, season defensive ranking 4th av 80.7
- Richmonds forward line has scored 194 points Av 97 points, season attacking ranking 8th av 90.5
- Richmond Average 14.5 marks i50


Midfield

C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Trent Cotchin, Jacob Townsend
C: Rory Atkins, Rory Sloane, David Mackay

F: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Shaun Grigg
F: Sam Jacobs, Riley Knight, Matt Crouch

Form Guide Finals
Averages
Adelaide Richmond
Clearances 42 36
Stoppages 31 23.5
Contested Poss 150 156
Hit Outs 38.5 30.5
I50 52 56.5


Adelaide Forwards v Richmond Backs
HB: Bachar Houli, David Astbury, Nick Vlastuin
HF: Richard Douglas, Taylor Walker, Charlie Cameron

B: Brandon Ellis, Alex Rance, Dylan Grimes
F: Tom Lynch, Josh Jenkins, Eddie Betts

Form Guide Finals
- Adelaide Forwards have scored 220 points av 110 points, season attacking ranking 1st, averaging 109.77
- Adelaide averages 12 marks inside 50 per game
- Richmond have conceded 107 points av 53.5 points, season defensive ranking 3rd, averaging 76.55

Bench
Richmond - Shane Edwards, Jack Graham, Nathan Broad, Jason Castagna
Adelaide - Brad Crouch, Jake Kelly, Hugh Greenwood, Andy Otten

Never discussed stat
Score per average contested possession
Adelaide 1.47
Richmond 1.26

This suggests Richmond have to work far harder than Adelaide to score

Last time they met


Overall findings

Adelaide have the depth, have the form and are scary efficient around the contest. Richmond have shown time and time again that they have the tools to upset the best however the one thing they have done consistently this year is allow teams time and space around the ground while they themselves have relied heavily on winning contested possession and bombing it long to contest after contest. If Richmond played Adelaide in that preliminary final in the same manner they played GWS, Adelaide would be in the grand final having thumped Richmond by 40 points. Adelaide are cleaner around the contest and faster all over the ground. Richmond can win, let me make this clear. Richmond will need to make every chance count next week and shut Adelaide's run down and shut down the link men such as Lynch and Walker. Adelaide showed they can switch up game plans from a short kicking game to a long 'joe the goose' game which will make it extremely hard for Richmond to shut it down. Adelaide also showed they are prepared to intimidate their opponents, after the way Dangerfield was targeted before the first bounce, I'd expect Martin to receive the same treatment.

Previous grandfinal I'd liken it to; Geelong V Port Adelaide 2007

In no way do I think the Crows will win by 119 points. I find the similarities are based around the quality difference between the two teams. Cats finished top, Port finished second. Cats clearly boss team all year, they still lost 4 games and they had a fantastic defensive setup and a magnificent forward line. Port were the second best scoring team in the league that year but suffered in defence. Richmonds forward line is ok but not world beaters however they make up for it with defence. The Crows have a great defence equal to Richmonds but a far superior forward line.

Time will tell but statistically Adelaide is in a very good place!

 

[Redleg Crow]

Leigh Matthews on Gameday in full senile mode - suggesting the Sloane clash was worse than the Cotchin one

 

[adelcrows]

Let's see this on Saturday!!

 

[Vhaluus]

Rewatching GWS vs Richmond atm.

My suspicions are confirmed, when GWS get free flowing they destroy Richmond.

We're better at getting our game free flowing and better when our game is free flowing than GWS.

Meanwhile Richmond dominate when it was tough and in close, somewhere that we beat Richmond in round 6 AND beat GWS in week 1.

 

[GreyCrow]

Why is KB so salty?

Coaching record 27-88
v Adelaide 0-1 lost by 38 points

 

[RAPPA]

Make sure Rance has to play 1-on-1 and the AA 'captain' will be pantsed. Go crows!

 

[Brentmeister]

Leigh Matthews on Gameday in full senile mode - suggesting the Sloane clash was worse than the Cotchin one

He's pandering to his audience. As is everyone in the media trying to get cotchin off.

 

[The Karma Bus]

im just not sure where where the clash is?, why wouldnt the afl just go with the crows wearing their blue shorts and richmond going white, unless your just being pedantic there is no clash, its not like Collingwood v North

A close up shot like that looks fine of course. I've watched us play them live in that situation and it looks like a mash up of who knows, especially if you're at a bit more distance. That's why the clash guernseys kicked in for our games.

 

[Vhaluus]

Make sure Rance has to play 1-on-1 and the AA 'captain' will be pantsed. Go crows!

Will get pantsed AGAIN. He couldn't even go with Otten last time we played them.

A player not even in our best 22 destroyed him so much they had to take Rance off him and make him the extra player.

 

[King Notorious]

What the ****, what a coincidence that my membership tickets are 'Not Valid' on ticketek the day we get in in the Final.

One can only wonder if the same shit happened to Bitchmond

 

[Vhaluus]

He's pandering to his audience. As is everyone in the media trying to get cotchin off.

Plus they're manufacturing outrage ready for if he does get suspended.

They win either way by talking about it. Either he doesn't get suspended so they've made a huge story out of nothing or he does get suspended and they get to go on a crusade about 'but grand final!'

 

[Danog]

Any milestone games coming up for Crows players in the GF?

 

[Vhaluus]

Any milestone games coming up for Crows players in the GF?

Yep, it'll be the 1st premiership game for 22 of them, big milestone.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Leigh Matthews on Gameday in full senile mode - suggesting the Sloane clash was worse than the Cotchin one

Does he not know Sloane didn't get Danger high?

Dangerfield stayed down because the ball was gone and likely he was so physically spent by the time he got to the contest after a whole 2nd quarter in the middle he simply needed to recover. The contest looked worse than what it was because Dangerfield went down softly, That is why Sloane was able to get up quickly. If you look at the footage, Dangerfield should have run right through Sloane any day of the week but my theory was Dangerfield was so spent he simply didn't have any energy left.

 

[gordo2016]

Leigh Matthews on Gameday in full senile mode - suggesting the Sloane clash was worse than the Cotchin one

Leigh Matthews is right. As he is most times. Lets play the game with the best players available and let the best team win.

 

[Scorpus]

Richmond board are bitching about me already on their own board.

Seems most of them like their little safe space and are too scared to actually try and get into the argument.

Disappointing. This is a banter thread. Go hard at the opposition even if you don't fully believe what you're saying, or go home.

I hope Crows posters aren't getting sucked in.

 

[SugarShane]

VFL Gameday all but running a "Free Cotch" campaign. They all say you can't miss a game for it, which in theory is right, but every single one of them is either ignoring or plain ignorant of the fact he's on 2 strikes. It's not a simple mrp weeks or not weeks thing. How can professionals be so poor at what they do?

 

[Vhaluus]

Leigh Matthews is right. As he is most times. Lets play the game with the best players available and let the best team win.

Agreed, play with the best available players.

However Cotchin shouldn't be available because he's a dirty bastard who punches blokes off the ball.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Leigh Matthews is right. As he is most times. Lets play the game with the best players available and let the best team win.

I want Cotchin to play. Don't want Richmond to have an excuse!

 

[andrew webster]

I am very thrilled about this football game coming up. Come on Adelaide Crows!

 

[Vhaluus]

Disappointing. This is a banter thread. Go hard at the opposition even if you don't fully believe what you're saying, or go home.

I hope Crows posters aren't getting sucked in.

Oh I fully believe what I'm saying.

I think we are the clear best side in the competition playing the worst of the top 4 sides who somehow made the grand final anyway. Geelong choked and GWS would have won if they had mummy and Cameron.

 

[RAPPA]

Leigh Matthews is right. As he is most times. Lets play the game with the best players available and let the best team win.

Trust one of the AFL/VFL's biggest thugs to take this position

 

[Ratkins]

I am very thrilled about this football game coming up. Come on Adelaide Crows!

Who are you? And why are you trying convince everyone you are someone else.

No one posts like this if you have genuine passion for a club in a Grand Final.

 

[ezard15]

5th best? Rofl.

Stay bitter, druggo.

Geelong, GWS, Sydney, Adelaide are better teams. You are only in the GF because you were unfairly given home games.


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