Adrian Dodoro: Football’s Biggest Fraud IMO

[_jrtp09_]

This is a BAY 13 worthy thread and the top contributor.....quelle suprise!

I kind of agree with you, not MB worthy. This thread’s no more interesting than the train wreck that has been Essendon, an organisation that’s been in limp mode since the embarrassing drug scandal.

But, on the other hand, if clearer heads are able to identify Essendon’s source of pain then maybe somebody should be listening?

 

[Runk]

I kind of agree with you, not MB worthy. This thread’s no more interesting than the train wreck that has been Essendon, an organisation that’s been in limp mode since the embarrassing drug scandal.

But, on the other hand, if clearer heads are able to identify Essendon’s source of pain then maybe somebody should be listening?

Those clearer heads won't be on here. Thank goodness BigFooty wasn't around during the 80's & 90's. These threads would be Richmond overload.

 

[Hawker55]

Mate, they were relegated to the Scottish League 2. They progressed to League 1, the Championship, and then back into the Premiership. Even made the 2016 Scottish Cup final by beating Celtic while a Championship club.

Essendon drugs saga may seem like light years ago, but a club isn't going to pick itself up off the canvas overnight in a league like the AFL. If we had more freedom of player movement like the NFL, than perhaps yes,

Actually the AFL is exactly the kind of league where a team can recover quickly. No relegation means there's no need for a minimum standard in order to keep your spot, it's a closed system so being rubbish rewards you with decent draft picks irrespective of how much money you have and it's small enough that there are only a handful of decent coaches - and given you're going to remain an AFL club regardless of how terrible you are, you'll always have a decent shout of getting one of them.

 

[Billy ray]

likes dealing with spuds








even the kids love him, can dress up like him for book week

 

[boncer34]

Don't mention this on the Essendon board. You'll be slapped with being a troll.

 

[Pykie]

I was cursing at draft time when we passed on Cunnigton. the bloke doesn't understand that you need tough/big mids to win finals and flags but yet he continually drafts skinny kids who get brushed off like nothing.

How did you pass on Cunnington?

He went at pick #5 with the following in front of him:

1. Melbourne - Scully
2. Melbourne - Trengove
3. Richmond - Martin
4. Fremantle - Morabito

 

[Del191229]

Exactly, blues worship SOS who hasn't anywhere near as many runs on the board as Dodoro.

Dodoro has always been a screwed negotiator, typically he comes out on top. Was very surprised when they had to pay 2x 1st rounders for Shiel.

Kind of like arguing whether Warner or Khawaja has more runs on the board this Ashes.

 

[Pykie]

Also,

I'm not sure where the OP got his 7 years from, that just his time titled as "list manager"

He's been the recruiting manager or higher since 1998.

 

[Pykie]

Having the chief football writer at the HS as an admirer probably helps.

This dude is the new Scott Clayton.

Harsh.

I'm not sure Adrian can be attributed with costing the entire competition about $300m dollars through inept recruiting.

 

[La Dispute]

Those clearer heads won't be on here. Thank goodness BigFooty wasn't around during the 80's & 90's. These threads would be Richmond overload.

I really don’t understand this mentality that a clubs list management, and in particular the person directly overseeing the composition of the list can’t be held to account.

Nothing in the OP can be construed as trolling, and as many have suspected for some time, there may be some underlying issues in the way Dodoro goes about recruiting and constructing the squad.

Looking at last night, there seems to be some serious gaps in their list, and the players they’ve brought in aren’t directly solving any issues. Shiel is a perfect example of this. He’s a good player, but he’s not providing anything they don’t already have; namely speed and skill on the outside. On occasion, as shown last night, he’s actually detrimental to their cause.

Many of Essendon’s key position players are journeymen, or just not that good, their running defenders are suspect defensively, their young players are still too green which points to a lack of depth, their ruck stocks are dreadful.

There’s are distinct lack of mongrel in the squad, and good teams just tend to bulldoze over them.

 

[Sixpence]

Essendon could really do with some class in their midfield. If only they were in a position to get someone like McLuggage or Taranto ...

 

[Heaps of fun]

What do you expect when you hire someone who literally has the word 'dodo' in their name. Who are you going to replace him with, Johnny Peanut?

Best comment I've seen on BF in about four years.

 

[TerryWallet]

Don't mention this on the Essendon board. You'll be slapped with being a troll.

Is Bunk leading the protection racket again?

 

[boncer34]

Is Bunk leading the protection racket again?

Wouldn't know. I've given up trying to explain that maybe it's not the 5 coaches in 20 years that's been the problem.

Maybe, just maybe, it's the 1 list manager.

Can't wait to get Jack Martin. That'll solve all our problems.

 

[_jrtp09_]

Those clearer heads won't be on here. Thank goodness BigFooty wasn't around during the 80's & 90's. These threads would be Richmond overload.

Richmond were never guilty of the stuff the EFC got up to; illegal injections on mass to their players and bringing the game into disrepute. It’d be pretty hard to top what the Bombers have cost the league and themselves financially. Yes we were shit for 30 years, but that hardly made front page news.

But our clubs’ turned the corner and now has record membership and recent a premiership to boot.

We know we’re doing something right when your club is raiding our staff and assistant coaches. Why reinvent the wheel, huh?

Anyway, good luck for the future.

 

[t0mmO]

Recruits best available on the market and not to the team needs of Essendon. I will give him credit he has brought in some good talent; Stringer, Shiel and Saad but hasn't targeted the draft hard enough nor has he recruited what Essendon needs; a key forward and an inside bull midfielder.

He definitely isn't a fraud nor the worst list manager getting around.

Get out of here with your reasonable, balanced response!

 

[nineteen eighty]

Whilst I agree with most of your post. The problem is when we play well, on our terms, we do play that ‘inspiring’ brand which sucks everyone in into believing.

Once the pressure is turned up/face a quality team it’s exposed. I don’t know if Essendon needs to start again, but the gameplay definitely needs to radically change.

I’m sick of the club drafting/trading for flankers and trying to turn them into mids. Heppell, Saad, Smith, McGrath and the interest in Jack Martin being recent example. It’s been obvious for years Essendon need a bull yet we continue with operation flank.

Two things:

Agree the game plan has to change. The game has moved on and the better teams easily cover the game style.

Can they afford to get rid of Daniher? I thought last night highlighted why more than ever they need to get themselves a gun KP forward. Daniher is that gun...IF he can get on the park. So do they do everything in their power...and then some, to get him right.I don't know, maybe they have already done that. Or have they explored every option under the sun to get him right. He (or someone like him) is crucial to success for the club.

 

[mcgarnacle]

Actually the AFL is exactly the kind of league where a team can recover quickly. No relegation means there's no need for a minimum standard in order to keep your spot, it's a closed system so being rubbish rewards you with decent draft picks irrespective of how much money you have and it's small enough that there are only a handful of decent coaches - and given you're going to remain an AFL club regardless of how terrible you are, you'll always have a decent shout of getting one of them.

nah, look how long it takes any club with draft picks to be half good. and having potential at 17 or 18 doesn't necessarily translate to being a gun at 23-28.

a proper free agency (not the restricted system in the AFL) would accelerate clubs improvement rather than waiting for the snot-noses to mature and find out if they're any good.

 

[Vindicater]

I look forward to him again drafting half back flankers and then telling the coach to turn them into midfielders

 

[nineteen eighty]

How did you pass on Cunnington?

He went at pick #5 with the following in front of him:

1. Melbourne - Scully
2. Melbourne - Trengove
3. Richmond - Martin
4. Fremantle - Morabito

Looking at the Cunnington draft thread, footyman states..."He's a star this bloke, there should be a few very nervous recruiting managers if they let this bloke slip past them cos he'll be one who comes back to haunt them.

Bang on the money.

 

[Del191229]

Those clearer heads won't be on here. Thank goodness BigFooty wasn't around during the 80's & 90's. These threads would be Richmond overload.

So you disagree with the notion that Essendon need a big bodied clearance winning contested mid like Cunnington?

I said in a reply to BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!! that Dodoro did actually identify this need and draft accordingly with a high pick in David Myers who could have become that big bodied mid.

 

[Del191229]

Is Bunk leading the protection racket again?

Hang on ... maybe, just maybe ... I mean, Adrian does have lots of laptops and seems plenty of time on his hands.

 

[Great8]

Essendon could really do with some class in their midfield. If only they were in a position to get someone like McLuggage or Taranto ...

They would turn into duds. Our development of players is garbage. Most of our draftees go backwards once we get a hold of them

 

[boncer34]

So you disagree with the notion that Essendon need a big bodied clearance winning contested mid like Cunnington?

I said in a reply to BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!! that Dodoro did actually identify this need and draft accordingly with a high pick in David Myers who could have become that big bodied mid.

I mean that we persisted with Myers and got him to 123 games despite soft tissue injuries ruining him and never letting him get a clear crack is a sign we're desperately short a big bloke in the middle.

But nah we'll keep picking flankers and outside players.

Shiel, Smith and Stringer were good selections because they can all play inside but it's not their bread and butter.

 

[jerry springer]

perfect example of a self licking ice cream