Yes I think they have some good falls. Carlisle, Hurly, Ryder, Daniher and even the old man Fletch. Essendons midfield also makes them a better side than Richmond. Just a gut feeling that Richmond will implode this year.
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Fair enough, I'll respectfully disagree. Richmonds midfield is better than essendons IMO. Carlisle is a very good player, but who knows how he'll go up forward. Hurley hasn't really shown up to his potential., Daniher will be an awesome player but not this year.
Pretty confident with the fixture Richmond will comfortably make the 8. Wouldn't be a total shock if they made top 4 either. Essendon I feel will be lucky to make September.
Hurley down back is a big determinant of how the Bombers go. He's looked good there and despite his whipping boy status has been our most structurally important forward as well. Just lacked continuity in his game. Carlisle, I have faith in to be a terror for defenders. Daniher's WIP and Ryder is frustating, brilliant and lacklustre all in the space of 5 minutes. Fletch's record and ability to adapt to the changes in a game over a generation are remarkable.
You've missed a couple in your list of talls, Hooker & Bellcho. Hooker is a limited player in a skills sense but his work has been underrated especially over the last season or two, intercept marks better than Jack Watts. Bellcho would be number one ruck at over half the teams in the comp and he kicked the best part of 30 goals last year. His injury means we'll have to rejig things early but barring other calamitous injuries (touch wood) I'd suggest we can cover.
Anyway on topic, think the bombers will be alright this year. Anywhere 1-10 but likely 4-7. Richmond and North will be alright and probably have their finishing positions inflated by easy fixtures.
Gumbleton was good at that, but didn't they trade him?
I think the hardest team to rate ( or guess where they will finish ) is Adelaide
If you take a form line over the 2 games they played at Subiaco late in the season then its hard to work out how good they are
Played Fremantle when they were still mathematically a chance to make finals - and got totally outplayed- and looked pretty ordinary
Yet in the final game of year absolutely ripped the Eagles to pieces( won by about 16 goals) -and were very impressive
Betts will be an asset- Pods can still play - Walker to come back in
The only thing i will say - is i think they will be a hell of alot better than the Eagles - who i think are in for a really rough year
Of all the fancied clubs - who could finish between 5th and 12th - the 2 i think that will bomb out are West Coast and Carlton - cant see either club finishing higher than 10th
If you take a form line over the 2 games they played at Subiaco late in the season then its hard to work out how good they are
Played Fremantle when they were still mathematically a chance to make finals - and got totally outplayed- and looked pretty ordinary
Yet in the final game of year absolutely ripped the Eagles to pieces( won by about 16 goals) -and were very impressive
Betts will be an asset- Pods can still play - Walker to come back in
The only thing i will say - is i think they will be a hell of alot better than the Eagles - who i think are in for a really rough year
Of all the fancied clubs - who could finish between 5th and 12th - the 2 i think that will bomb out are West Coast and Carlton - cant see either club finishing higher than 10th
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I agree on most of this post but in reference to this game we were missing several key players and lost another key forward to injury during the game yet still only just lost.
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You can't really count that. Melbourne would've beaten us by 10 goals that day.
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Would have been impressive if the Eagles were actually trying....
Going by that logic, does that mean that the claims by Lions supporters that it was a close game against the Tigers in rd 20 at the MCG when you went down by 23 points are also false?
We lead by 53 points before halftime, but took the foot off the pedal and in the 2nd half you managed to shave 5 goals off the margin and I've seen Lions fans sprouting that it was a close game. I don't mind this, it got tense in the last quarter and you guys were pushing.
But I've seen your supporters then saying that the game vs the Western Bulldogs game at the Gabba wasn't even close, yet they went down by 7 points IIRC didn't they?
So you can't have it both ways, either admit the Doggies gave you a fright and lose the inferiority complex which is plaguing the Lions supporters on bigfooty at the moment or redefine what a close game is and don't change that to suit your arguments.
Very intelligent comment. When your IQ gets above your shoe size I may start taking notice of your posts.lol
I have a gut feeling that boomer has herpies, does not make it true though
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Collingwood and Carlton will drop out of the eight this year. The kangaroos will jump in and the Sun will surprise a few and sneak in!
Sydney
Fremantle
Hawthorn
Geelong
Richmond
North
Port
Suns
Collingwood
West Coast
Carlton
Brisbane
Adelaide
Essendon
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North
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Your ladder is damn near exactly the same as mine.
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Changing my opinion 2 weeks later (Using the ladder predictor from a few pages past)
1. Fremantle (Should go one better and win the flag)
2. Hawthorn (Life after Buddy will still be good, statistically they play better without him)
3. Sydney (Tippett and Buddy to dominate)
4. Richmond (Will make the jump into top 4 to be a real threat)
5. Geelong (Still have a great list but not top 4 worthy)
6. North Melbourne (Will win those close games which will shoot them into the top 8)
7. Port Adelaide (More experience but tougher draw, Only see us playing 1 final instead of 2)
8. Gold Coast (Could slip in 8th spot with a few upset wins, 2015/16 they will be right up there with the best)
9. Adelaide (Walker should be back to his best in 2015, They will be around the mark this year)
10. Carlton (Still need a decent forward to be a finals threat)
11. Collingwood (Will be around the mark for finals, big changes list wise, could rebuild very soon)
12. Essendon (2013 was a year to forget, have the talent to play finals but moral could be down)
13. Western Bulldogs (Still rebuilding and developing talent but will get a few upset wins)
14. West Coast (Needs to rebuild list but still good enough to stay out of bottom 4)
15. St Kilda (Honeymoon period for Richo, should win 4-6 games)
16. Brisbane (Major overhaul at the club will take some time to build stability, 3 wins max)
17. GWS (To win 2-3 games and not winning the spoon would be a pass in my book)
18. Melbourne (1-2 wins, Roos's goal will be to not lose by more than 10 goals each week)
1. Fremantle (Should go one better and win the flag)
2. Hawthorn (Life after Buddy will still be good, statistically they play better without him)
3. Sydney (Tippett and Buddy to dominate)
4. Richmond (Will make the jump into top 4 to be a real threat)
5. Geelong (Still have a great list but not top 4 worthy)
6. North Melbourne (Will win those close games which will shoot them into the top 8)
7. Port Adelaide (More experience but tougher draw, Only see us playing 1 final instead of 2)
8. Gold Coast (Could slip in 8th spot with a few upset wins, 2015/16 they will be right up there with the best)
9. Adelaide (Walker should be back to his best in 2015, They will be around the mark this year)
10. Carlton (Still need a decent forward to be a finals threat)
11. Collingwood (Will be around the mark for finals, big changes list wise, could rebuild very soon)
12. Essendon (2013 was a year to forget, have the talent to play finals but moral could be down)
13. Western Bulldogs (Still rebuilding and developing talent but will get a few upset wins)
14. West Coast (Needs to rebuild list but still good enough to stay out of bottom 4)
15. St Kilda (Honeymoon period for Richo, should win 4-6 games)
16. Brisbane (Major overhaul at the club will take some time to build stability, 3 wins max)
17. GWS (To win 2-3 games and not winning the spoon would be a pass in my book)
18. Melbourne (1-2 wins, Roos's goal will be to not lose by more than 10 goals each week)
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The only time in the last 20+ years that the same teams have made the top 4 in consecutive years is 2009/2010. Every year people think the top 4 will all be up there again the following year but every year at least one team (usually 2) drops out. In my opinion, the top 4 of 2013 is highly unlikely to repeat in 2014. You could make legitimate cases for any of the four dropping off a bit
1. Sydney
2. Fremantle
3. Richmond
4. Hawthorn
5. Geelong
6. North Melbourne
7. Port Adelaide
8. Carlton
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9. Collingwood
10. Essendon
11. Gold Coast
12. West Coast
13. Brisbane
14. Adelaide
15. Western Bulldogs
16. Melbourne
17. GWS
18. St Kilda
GF: Sydney v Fremantle
Premiers: Sydney
Norm Smith: Jarrad McVeigh
Coleman: Jeremy Cameron
Brownlow: Joel Selwood
2. Fremantle
3. Richmond
4. Hawthorn
5. Geelong
6. North Melbourne
7. Port Adelaide
8. Carlton
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9. Collingwood
10. Essendon
11. Gold Coast
12. West Coast
13. Brisbane
14. Adelaide
15. Western Bulldogs
16. Melbourne
17. GWS
18. St Kilda
GF: Sydney v Fremantle
Premiers: Sydney
Norm Smith: Jarrad McVeigh
Coleman: Jeremy Cameron
Brownlow: Joel Selwood
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Brisbane in my opinion can make the finals if a lot of things go right for them. I don't think any tipsters out there tipped the Power to finish in the eight at the start of last year, but they showed rapid improvement.
12 months is a long time in footy and as we all know anything can happen. I think Brisbane will win more then they lose at the GABBA. Impressive wins against Geelong, Essendon and North Melbourne in 2013 and they almost upset Port Adelaide at AAMI and Geelong at Skilled Stadium. They've got some terrific young midfielders and a gun ruck man in Leuenberger. I give the Lions a sneaky chance of finishing 8th.
12 months is a long time in footy and as we all know anything can happen. I think Brisbane will win more then they lose at the GABBA. Impressive wins against Geelong, Essendon and North Melbourne in 2013 and they almost upset Port Adelaide at AAMI and Geelong at Skilled Stadium. They've got some terrific young midfielders and a gun ruck man in Leuenberger. I give the Lions a sneaky chance of finishing 8th.
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Do remind me which Richmond player went down to injury in the game against Lions. We had Merrett go down just after half time which is a huge loss to our stability in the back and forward lines.
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Here's the Excel ladder predictor again, in case anyone wants it.
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Port's wins and losses (in my decidedly non-psychic mind):
Round 1 v Carlton at Etihad Stadium - Sunday March 16 7:40pm (Away) WIN
Round 2 v Adelaide Crows at Adelaide Oval - Saturday March 29 4:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 3 v North Melb at Etihad Stadium - Sunday April 6 4:10pm (Away) LOSS
Round 4 v Brisbane Lions at Adelaide Oval - Saturday April 12 1:40pm (Home) WIN
Round 5 v West Coast at Patersons Stadium - Saturday April 19 5:40pm (Away) WIN
Round 6 v Geelong Cats at Adelaide Oval - Sunday April 27 4:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 7 v GWS Giants at StarTrack Oval - Saturday May 3 2:10pm (Away) WIN
Round 8 v Fremantle at Adelaide Oval - Saturday May 10 1:10pm (Home) LOSS
Round 9 - Bye
Round 10 v Hawthorn at Adelaide Oval - Saturday May 24 7:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 11 v Melbourne at TIO Traeger Park - Saturday May 31 1:10pm (Away) WIN
Round 12 v St Kilda at Adelaide Oval - Saturday June 7 4:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 13 v Sydney at SCG - Saturday June 14 2:10pm (Away) LOSS
Round 14 v Western Bulldogs at Adelaide Oval - Saturday June 21 1:15pm (Home) WIN
Round 15 v Adelaide Crows at Adelaide Oval - Sunday June 29 3:40pm (Away) WIN
Round 16 v Essendon at Adelaide Oval - Saturday July 5 7:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 17 v Richmond at Etihad Stadium - Sunday July 13 1:10pm (Away) LOSS
Round 18 v Melbourne at Adelaide Oval - Sunday July 20 12:40pm (Home) WIN
Round 19 v Collingwood at MCG - Sunday August 3 4:40pm (Away) WIN
Round 20 v Sydney at Adelaide Oval - Saturday August 9 7:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 21 v Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium - Saturday August 16 2:10pm (Away) WIN
Round 22 v Carlton at Adelaide Oval - Friday August 22 7:20pm (Home) WIN
Round 23 v Fremantle at Patersons Stadium - TBC (Away) LOSS
Round 1 v Carlton at Etihad Stadium - Sunday March 16 7:40pm (Away) WIN
Round 2 v Adelaide Crows at Adelaide Oval - Saturday March 29 4:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 3 v North Melb at Etihad Stadium - Sunday April 6 4:10pm (Away) LOSS
Round 4 v Brisbane Lions at Adelaide Oval - Saturday April 12 1:40pm (Home) WIN
Round 5 v West Coast at Patersons Stadium - Saturday April 19 5:40pm (Away) WIN
Round 6 v Geelong Cats at Adelaide Oval - Sunday April 27 4:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 7 v GWS Giants at StarTrack Oval - Saturday May 3 2:10pm (Away) WIN
Round 8 v Fremantle at Adelaide Oval - Saturday May 10 1:10pm (Home) LOSS
Round 9 - Bye
Round 10 v Hawthorn at Adelaide Oval - Saturday May 24 7:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 11 v Melbourne at TIO Traeger Park - Saturday May 31 1:10pm (Away) WIN
Round 12 v St Kilda at Adelaide Oval - Saturday June 7 4:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 13 v Sydney at SCG - Saturday June 14 2:10pm (Away) LOSS
Round 14 v Western Bulldogs at Adelaide Oval - Saturday June 21 1:15pm (Home) WIN
Round 15 v Adelaide Crows at Adelaide Oval - Sunday June 29 3:40pm (Away) WIN
Round 16 v Essendon at Adelaide Oval - Saturday July 5 7:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 17 v Richmond at Etihad Stadium - Sunday July 13 1:10pm (Away) LOSS
Round 18 v Melbourne at Adelaide Oval - Sunday July 20 12:40pm (Home) WIN
Round 19 v Collingwood at MCG - Sunday August 3 4:40pm (Away) WIN
Round 20 v Sydney at Adelaide Oval - Saturday August 9 7:10pm (Home) WIN
Round 21 v Gold Coast at Metricon Stadium - Saturday August 16 2:10pm (Away) WIN
Round 22 v Carlton at Adelaide Oval - Friday August 22 7:20pm (Home) WIN
Round 23 v Fremantle at Patersons Stadium - TBC (Away) LOSS
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Pretty optimistic but if everything goes well this season injury wise, this could happen.
Even if entry thing went right like last year for port I don't see this happening. other teams improve as well
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