AFL 2014 Ladder Predictions

[NICNATNUI]

Is that a dig at Essendon ?

Sorry boss, missed them out. But either way don't see them making the 8 without injecting steroids up the arseh*le.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Sorry boss, missed them out. But either way don't see them making the 8 without injecting steroids up the arseh*le.

okay "chief"

 

[NICNATNUI]

okay "chief"

Hope you're not taking the mock out of me dawg.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Hope you're not taking the mock out of me dawg.

 

[TigersMan4]

yes, showed some good signs at the end of last year. Also richmond 9th.

Lol kk
Let's see how far off the money you are

 

[madman]

1. Fremantle
2. Sydney
3. Hawthorn
4. Collingwood
5. Richmond
6. Geelong
7. Essendon
8. North Melbourne

9. Port Adelaide
10. Adelaide
11. Gold Coast
12. Carlton
13. West Coast
14. Western Bulldogs
15. Brisbane
16. Melbourne
17. GWS
18. St. Kilda

 

[topdon]

LOL @ everyone who has Essendon in the bottom 8!!

 

[Probitas_]

Merrett was the leading goal kicker when he got injured. I'd like to see your team try and still play attacking football with your main forward going down with injury.

This was pretty funny. 2012 we lost our 3 main goalkickers in Kennedy (7 games), LeCras (0 games) and Nicoski (0 games) and still managed to finish 5th for the year. So you can see our team try that if you are so inclined.

 

[Smoocher]

1. Freo Premiers.
2. Hawthorn
3. Sydney
4. Carlton (Midfield is elite if Daisy is fit.)
5. North (AARON BLACK)
6. Geelong
7. Essendon (Written off by most but still have a good list.)
8. Port

9. Richmond (Sorry tiger fans but IMO Talls are second rate.)
10. West Coast
11. Collingwood (Midfield is to slow. Will need another season or 2 until youngsters come through.)
12. Suns
13. Bulldogs
14. Adelaide
15. Brisbane
16. Melbourne
17. GWS
18. St Kilda

 

[38Rockliff38]

1. Freo Premiers.
2. Hawthorn
3. Sydney
4. Carlton Midfield is elite if Daisy is fit.
5. North AARON BLACK
6. Geelong
7. Essendon Written off by most but still have a good list.
8. Port

9. Richmond Sorry tiger fans but IMO Talls are second rate.
10. West Coast
11. Collingwood Midfield is to slow. Will need another season or 2 until youngsters come through.
12. Suns
13. Bulldogs
14. Adelaide
15. Brisbane
16. Melbourne
17. GWS
18. St Kilda

Their midfield is the best in the AFL in my opinion

 

[Smoocher]

Their midfield is the best in the AFL in my opinion

Let me re phrase. Collingwoods onballers are too slow.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Let me re phrase. Collingwoods onballers are too slow.

Same thing

 

[38Rockliff38]

I can't think of anyone in the Collingwood midfield that is slow

 

[Smoocher]

Same thing

I can't think of anyone in the Collingwood midfield that is slow

Then tell me how many of them have blistering pace. Other than Swannie who has a blistering first 10 metres they have very little after that.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Then tell me how many of them have blistering pace. Other than Swannie who has a blistering first 10 metres they have very little after that.

Blaire and Sideass are fairly quick. Pendlebury doesn't need blistering pace, he always seems to find so much space. Beams doesn't need blistering pace either - look how damaging he is by foot. And Swan as you said has a good burst of pace

 

[38Rockliff38]

Dwyer is very quick too. Forgot about him.

 

[Donakebab]

I can't think of anyone in the Collingwood midfield that is slow

Luke Ball.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Luke Ball.

True. But he makes up for it with his contested ball winning & tackling

 

[Tiger71]

1. Freo Premiers.
2. Hawthorn
3. Sydney
4. Carlton (Midfield is elite if Daisy is fit.)
5. North (AARON BLACK)
6. Geelong
7. Essendon (Written off by most but still have a good list.)
8. Port

9. Richmond (Sorry tiger fans but IMO Talls are second rate.)
10. West Coast
11. Collingwood (Midfield is to slow. Will need another season or 2 until youngsters come through.)
12. Suns
13. Bulldogs
14. Adelaide
15. Brisbane
16. Melbourne
17. GWS
18. St Kilda

Oh dear lol

Black 33 goals - played forward

Vickery 27 goals - played forward/ruck. Spent more time in the ruck this year then any other due to Marics groins.

Yeah..your forwards are elite

 

[Big Fresh]

Oh dear lol

Black 23 goals - played forward

Vickery 27 goals - played forward/ruck. Spent more time in the ruck this year then any other due to Marics groins.

Yeah..your forwards are elite

Black kicked 33 goals and played in three fewer games.

 

[Tiger71]

Black kicked 33 goals and played in three fewer games.

Fixed

Not disputing that but considering there forward set up. Thomas and Pettrie kicking most of there goals with black getting the third weakest defender and Black spending most of his time forward, you would expect him to kick more goals.

I used tyrone as an example soley due to him being a tall. I am actually being a tad unfair on TV as he spends time in the ruck and when he is forward, he more often then not gets the second best defender.

I am not saying black is not a good player but Smoocher talks about his talls being superior and richmonds being underwhelming but if you get the output of Petrie/Black - 71 goals vs Reiwoldt/Tyrone - 85 goals it paints that the gap is not as wide as he believes that would force us to tumble out the eight.

 

[tazaa]

Are we seriously comparing Black to Vickery? And this is not a dig at Vickery but with Thomas, Daw and Tarrant also in the forward line.

 

[Ironmonger]

Not that it's all that important for ladder positions, but I wouldn't have thought there was much to split Vickery and Black. Both at this stage are useful players without being elite. They both seem to have the occasional game where watching as a neutral you'd say they have little impact and are hardly noticable, although I'd say Vickery has slightly more of these.

But on the flip side Vickery's ability to help out in the ruck makes him more structurally valuable.

So I'd say it's just about a wash. Somehow it seems like Black might have more upside, although that may just be because he's only recently started playing regularly.

 

[Tiger71]

Are we seriously comparing Black to Vickery? And this is not a dig at Vickery but with Thomas, Daw and Tarrant also in the forward line.

Why not mate, people judge Vickery harshly due to his 12 form which was shot due to his injurys and in 13 he played more time ruck. In 2011 he played mainly as a forward with only small bursts in the ruck his kicked 36 goals. Also you mention Tarrent who kicked less goals then Kingy.

All i was trying to do was balance it a bit. Most would say Black over Vickery but Vickery when uninjured has actually had a better season then black. Should be interesting to see how this year compares the two. Vickery so far is injury free and will be playing forward exclusivily.

I rate black but to place North 5th due to Black is adding way to much pressure on the kid IMO

 

[Tiger_man322]

1. Freo Premiers.
2. Hawthorn
3. Sydney
4. Carlton (Midfield is elite if Daisy is fit.)
5. North (AARON BLACK)
6. Geelong
7. Essendon (Written off by most but still have a good list.)
8. Port

9. Richmond (Sorry tiger fans but IMO Talls are second rate.)
10. West Coast
11. Collingwood (Midfield is to slow. Will need another season or 2 until youngsters come through.)
12. Suns
13. Bulldogs
14. Adelaide
15. Brisbane
16. Melbourne
17. GWS
18. St Kilda

ARRON BLACK
Won't see you 5th. Sorry Kanga fans... He's just not as good as you think.