Autopsy AFL 2021 First Preliminary Final - Demons v Cats Fri September 10th 7:50pm EST / 5:50pm WST (Optus)

[And_ROOS]

Can't fathom why no love for the Dees LOL

Jealousy at its finest

Dees are strong favourites because despite Geelong ruining Brisbanes year last season, Geelongs PF form is absolutely atrocious.
2013: 5 point loss.
2016: 37 point loss.
2017: 61 point loss.
2019: 19 point loss.
2020: 40 point win.

So unless you are arguing very recent history (i.e Geelong won one last year, know what it takes, Melbourne haven't won one since 2000 and last time they made one it was a 66 point loss) you will find most people are suggesting recent form is good form, and Melbourne are in great form.

 

[Xtreme]

Geelong by 89 points

THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL

 

[Ron The Bear]

Club	Avg Age​	Avg Gms​	Avg Fnl​	Avg Gls​	Avg Hgt​	Avg Wgt​
Melb	24.98​	100.5​	3.1​	56.3​	187.4​	88.1​
Geel	28.03​	155.9​	14.7​	125.5​	189.7​	90.0​

 

[Toump Ass]

Club	Avg Age​	Avg Gms​	Avg Fnl​	Avg Gls​	Avg Hgt​	Avg Wgt​
Melb	24.98​	100.5​	3.1​	56.3​	187.4​	88.1​
Geel	28.03​	155.9​	14.7​	125.5​	189.7​	90.0​

So to summarise, Geelong are old and fat and Melbourne are young and virile.

Nice.

 

[LeverPuller]

Zac Guthrie over Higgins seems like a dumb move

 

[pineapple dee]

Cats will win.
The media has already pencilled in Melbourne for the flag, and every time they do that for any team, they inevitably choke

The media hype is for your consumption mate. No one of the players or staff within the club believe any of that nonsense and it has no bearing on their preparation.

 

[NQflogg]

Zac Guthrie over Higgins seems like a dumb move

Chris Scott has lost the plot

 

[LeverPuller]

Jesus looking at it…the youngest player in Geelong’s named midfield is 29.

Melbourne only have three players 29 or older named across the whole side.

 

[AlcoaCat]

Zach Guthrie

39

Zach Guthrie

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

90.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.0

2star

MG

90.0

2star

D

10.4

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.6

4star

? We always pull a dumb move like this at the end of the season. I like Zach and think he's improved a lot, but I can't see the wisdom in this.

 

[schmuttt]

I am so ****ing scared of this game.

 

[Xtreme]

Zach Guthrie? We always pull a dumb move like this at the end of the season. I like Zach and think he's improved a lot, but I can't see the wisdom in this.

He's going to want to pull out a blinder (Will Langford 2014 grand final style) to justify his selection.

His selection doesn't scream "match winning move"

 

[DemonZombie_001]

I am so ******* scared of this game.

Same, Geelong have quality players AND for some this is it the last chance they will have to win a Grand Final. That is great motivation.

 

[netslave]

Same, Geelong have quality players AND for some this is it the last chance they will have to win a Grand Final. That is great motivation.

Great motivation for us to put them down and see a raft of their players finally retire.

 

[ep2018]

Zac Guthrie over Higgins seems like a dumb move

Has late change written all over it.

 

[ep2018]

Someone on here said it so perfectly: "the only team that will stop Melbourne from winning the flag this season is Melbourne."

If both teams play their best, Melbourne win and win easily. I read an article about Will Schofield

31

Will Schofield

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

154.0

2star

D

5.0

1star

K

2.5

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

2star

MG

70.5

1star

D

7.4

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

's comments about how Melbourne might have mental demons about playing a prelim at Optus after their effort in 2018. Will it play a part I'm not sure. Hopefully not.

Melbourne by 28 points. Geelong might be in front at half time.

 

[HTT]

Club	Avg Age​	Avg Gms​	Avg Fnl​	Avg Gls​	Avg Hgt​	Avg Wgt​
Melb	24.98​	100.5​	3.1​	56.3​	187.4​	88.1​
Geel	28.03​	155.9​	14.7​	125.5​	189.7​	90.0​

Biggest age differential in a prelim?

 

[My Cotchin Rules]

Can't fathom why no love for the Dees LOL

Jealousy at its finest

That better be a joke otherwise you've been living in a box. I believe it would be close to 90% neutrals behind the Dees.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Biggest age differential in a prelim?

Avg Age Diff​	Year	Club	Opp	Result
+3.48​	2004	Br	Ge	W
+3.46​	2010	Ge	Co	L
+3.18​	1909	Ca	Sy	W
+3.04​	2021	Ge	Me
+3.01​	1947	Fi	Es	L
+2.93​	1961	Me	WB	L
+2.82​	1987	Ha	Me	W
+2.69​	1979	NM	Co	L
+2.68​	1951	Es	Co	W
+2.61​	1910	Co	Sy	W

 

[My Cotchin Rules]

Avg Age Diff​	Year	Club	Opp	Result
+3.48​	2004	Br	Ge	W
+3.46​	2010	Ge	Co	L
+3.18​	1909	Ca	Sy	W
+3.04​	2021	Ge	Me
+3.01​	1947	Fi	Es	L
+2.93​	1961	Me	WB	L
+2.82​	1987	Ha	Me	W
+2.69​	1979	NM	Co	L
+2.68​	1951	Es	Co	W
+2.61​	1910	Co	Sy	W

If they selected Higgins & Dahlhaus over Guthrie & say Holmes surely that would of been close to the record?

 

[indianhawks]

Melbourne had a weeks break, younger side and there isn’t a bye before finals week 1. Melbourne should win comfortably

 

[donkeypunchd]

Someone on here said it so perfectly: "the only team that will stop Melbourne from winning the flag this season is Melbourne."

If both teams play their best, Melbourne win and win easily. I read an article about Will Schofield's comments about how Melbourne might have mental demons about playing a prelim at Optus after their effort in 2018. Will it play a part I'm not sure. Hopefully not.

Melbourne by 28 points. Geelong might be in front at half time.

I don’t believe (hope?) the 2018 prelim will be a factor. This is anecdotal obviously, but I attended a pre-game function for MFC members that day at the Riverside pavilion in Burswood. The special guest speaker was Todd Viney, when he got up on stage he was quite choked up and very emotional. He wouldn’t be human if he didn’t feel that emotion, particularly when his son was playing and being a club legend, however looking back on it almost feels like the club was satisfied with having reached that stage and considered it to be an achievement. Like they were happy being there, and not too fussed about the outcome. I don’t get that impression from the club anymore I think this outfit has a harder edge than we did then. I still fear Geelong will win but I don’t think it will be due to stage fright or PTSD.

 

[Ron The Bear]

If they selected Higgins & Dahlhaus over Guthrie & say Holmes surely that would of been close to the record?

Higgins - Jones +2.91
Higgins - Melksham +3.06
Higgins - Chandler +3.43
Higgins - Jordon +3.47
Dahlhaus - Jones +2.71
Dahlhaus - Melksham +2.87
Dahlhaus - Chandler +3.23
Dahlhaus - Jordon +3.27
Fort - Jones +2.67
Fort - Melksham +2.83
Fort - Chandler +3.19
Fort - Jordon +3.23
Simpson - Jones +2.46
Simpson - Melksham +2.62
Simpson - Chandler +2.98
Simpson - Jordon +3.02

If both Higgins and Dahlhaus came into the side it would probably break a lot of records.

 

[qarocks]

my default position is the dees dominate early, but kick 1.5 or something horrible. Cats come back and run up a ~20 point lead, which the dees need to run down in the last Q.

 

[wowlace]

I am so ******* scared of this game.

Most of us are mate. It's a nice change from not having any stress at all for long long time.

 

[Chinacats]

Big fail if cats drop this. 7 top 4 finishes in 9 years. Fifth prelim in 6 years for no cup after topping up and sacrificing 3 first rounders for Cameron.