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That’s what I said to my brother at the end of the game. I know it’s kind of lame, but one team has the eye of the tiger and the other didn’t (Bont aside).There’s no killer instinct.
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That’s what I said to my brother at the end of the game. I know it’s kind of lame, but one team has the eye of the tiger and the other didn’t (Bont aside).There’s no killer instinct.
If you can bare it watch the second half of the third quarter onwards. Bont was tackling and doing everything he could whilst his team mates in the midfield just evacuated the hotness of the contest. I couldn’t believe it. It wasn’t structural. It was two guys in Petracca and Oliver saying I want this premiership and Bont trying to stop them whilst his teammates looked on saying, ‘too hard’ or something. I’m most stunned by Libba.I think it’s more of a balance thing in the midfield.
Macrae, Liberatore and Bontempelli look either slow, or maybe not slow once they are running but lack explosive pace off the mark. They need a little time and space to be effective.
I think they are also attack first players who back themselves to win the ball, and can get exposed the other way.
When Melbourne had Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw and Petracca all trying to be the hero in the midfield it didn’t work.
Once Viney accepted he is a limited player and stuck to what he’s good at, Oliver added using his foot speed and became damaging by foot too, Petracca got his fitness up, and Beayshaw moved out to the unglamorous wing, the balance changed.
A combination of expanding repertoire for Oliver and Petracca, contracting for Viney, and getting organised to exploit strengths made a huge difference.
What are the differences the Dogs’ players can make to how they play, and who plays where?
Should they better utilise their midfield depth by playing some of their stars in less glamorous positions where their stats will suffer, but it will make the team better?
Great post.The belting Melbourne got from the Eagles in the 2018 preliminary was a blessing in disguise.
It brutally exposed that team’s deficiencies and was the first catalyst for the change that led to this premiership.
If Melbourne had a brave loss of 23 after some junk time goals they may have just cruised on hoping natural development would do the trick.
Instead they went after May and now the backline is almost entirely different.
Out Frost, O. McDonald, Lewis and Jetta.
In May, Petty (Tomlinson), Rivers and Bowey. Lever was injured in 2018.
Only Hibberd and Salem survived, and they can both be damaging by foot.
The injury hit 2019 clarified some other deficiencies, like the over reliance on clearances.
Maybe the Bulldogs will look back on this as a blessing too.
That’s what I said to my brother at the end of the game. I know it’s kind of lame, but one team has the eye of the tiger and the other didn’t (Bont aside).
Best post of the thread. Respect to you mate as you must be hurting but I rated your midfield so highly and when the war started I couldn’t believe what I saw. Bont was heroic but he was outnumbered 4-1, whilst Libba, McCrae etc just completely folded. I’m not trying to be kicking a losing team, I’m literally blown away by how they all went hiding when it got hot. I’m stunned and would trade one or two on principle. It was bad.
I think it’s more of a balance thing in the midfield.
Macrae, Liberatore and Bontempelli look either slow, or maybe not slow once they are running but lack explosive pace off the mark. They need a little time and space to be effective.
I think they are also attack first players who back themselves to win the ball, and can get exposed the other way.
When Melbourne had Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw and Petracca all trying to be the hero in the midfield it didn’t work.
Once Viney accepted he is a limited player and stuck to what he’s good at, Oliver added using his foot speed and became damaging by foot too, Petracca got his fitness up, and Beayshaw moved out to the unglamorous wing, the balance changed.
A combination of expanding repertoire for Oliver and Petracca, contracting for Viney, and getting organised to exploit strengths made a huge difference.
What are the differences the Dogs’ players can make to how they play, and who plays where?
Should they better utilise their midfield depth by playing some of their stars in less glamorous positions where their stats will suffer, but it will make the team better?
I know but you’ve had all year probably the best or second best midfield. When Petracca went to Bont in the centre square at the start of the third quarter it wasn’t about tagging or set plays. He seemed to say, ‘let’s see who wants it more’. Oliver and him just went insane and Bont did too, but the rest of your guys didn’t fight. I’ll shut up about it as I remember 2012 and don’t mean to make it worse but it was hard to watch Bont fighting so hard and have no mates. Treloar included for all those raving about his first half.Not once did we try and change the centre bounce structure when getting beaten. Was arrogant I felt, I feel we just assumed we’d win it back. Local footy mids would have set up better.
I know but you’ve had all year probably the best or second best midfield. When Petracca went to Bont in the centre square at the start of the third quarter it wasn’t about tagging or set plays. He seemed to say, ‘let’s see who wants it more’. Oliver and him just went insane and Bont did too, but the rest of your guys didn’t fight. I’ll shut up about it as I remember 2012 and don’t mean to make it worse but it was hard to watch Bont fighting so hard and have no mates. Treloar included for all those raving about his first half.
68 vs 1 points run. FMD
Fritsch right up there on the head punchability
Yeah the first , the last , and last half of the thirdThat was as a great GF for 2&1/2 quarters.
2 tricks then as he is pretty good at crashing cars pissedL. Hunter is a bit of a one trick pony really, you know those ones that drop their knees and constantly play for frees?
You’re the kind of poster that makes me come back to Bigfooty at times after ten plus years. I’m the same mate I love dissecting games and just being real. I liken the folding of your mids to leaving a soldier wounded or outnumbered in battle … it’s sanctimonious I suppose but I just couldn’t believe it. Lost a ton of respect for a few of them. It wasn’t fatigue or and off day, it was being exposed for having elite consistency but no capacity to go into beast mode. Love Bont so much. He is my favourite player ever just about even though Petracca showed that he’s possibly better. Don’t know if that makes sense but Bont is a hero regardlessDoesn’t bother me mate, it’s a good topic and I’m fine having good match dissection conversations. I appreciate a non troll! It’s the posters who want to troll and prod that I am trying to stay clear of. Libba and Macrae just didn’t fight in the last 10 mins of that third quarter. It should have been all defence mode. Do not leave their hip goal side until we’ve won it back.
Harley Bennell2 tricks then as he is pretty good at crashing cars pissed
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We do that sort of thing after every game and have done since 2016. Hardly got ahead of ourselves.Gold - Dees singing ‘free from desire’ after the granny. Bulldogs got ahead of themselves.
Gold - Dees singing ‘free from desire’ after the granny. Bulldogs got ahead of themselves.
Course you aren’t far off it. 50 seconds left in the third you were 1 goal down. If you held that margin instead of 3 goals it could be a different story.Really don't think we are too far off it. Clearly were in the top 2 teams all year and got towelled up by 3 centre clearances in that 3 goal burst then it was just a massive gut punch. Teams get runs on in grandies and granted Melbourne's was exceptional you'd be lying after bonts 3rd to put us 19 up you thought the game was nearly done if we kicked another 1 or 2
Yep. Will always be a bit of what if. Few mental lapses and melb walk into 3/4 time up and about and we walk in deflated. It is what it is now and we will be better for the experienceCourse you aren’t far off it. 50 seconds left in the third you were 1 goal down. If you held that margin instead of 3 goals it could be a different story.
He tackled harder than any other Dog, especially in the third and last quarters when it became a war. Couldn’t be more wrong.I didn’t realise until I watched the replay how poor defensively Bontempelli is.
Also, is Dunkley the most handsome man playing the game?
As a freo fan enjoying watching Ed Langdon flop so hard after talking so much trash about freo, Perth, Ross lyon the last 3 weeks...... Absolute shocking performance today