Autopsy AFL 2022 Second Elimination Final - Lions v Tigers Thurs Sept 1st 7:20pm EST (Gabba)

[Shaq attack]

No, that’s absolute bullshit. It’s either a significant error that must be addressed or corruption. It’s not a HTB decision made in a split second, it is a video umpire with time, technology and multiple camera angles who has rushed to overturn an umpires decision. It must be conclusive, my photos prove it is not. It took me all of a minute to take that screenshot so why is the trained professional getting it so wrong. Action either needs to be taken or the game is an absolute farce and the AFL, who already ticked it off, are going to continue being allowed to manipulate results. It’s no coincidence Richmond got screwed because Dusty is in trouble in the media. AFL want us out of the spotlight to save their ass!

Option 3: correct decision. Enjoy kittens with Dusty.

 

[docko911]

You've screenshot that first one earlier than the second.

No I haven’t mate

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

No I haven’t mate

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Why are people so fixated on blurry still images from a 1980s TV screen? The actual vision shows it best that it clearly missed.

 

[Hollow Knight]

No I haven’t mate

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90 degree angle shift from one image to another. Ball over the post in both. Eliminates all parallax illusions.

Basic geometry proves the ball went over the post.

Brilliant by the ARC. The umpire suspected it may have gone over the post and asked the ARC to check, and they did.

Great result.

 

[boncer34]

No I haven’t mate

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You've just proved you did. That one in the top right doesn't match the original one you posted.

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The Balls below the guy in the white to the right of goal post here. In the one you showed to prove you didn't it's to the left of him over the post.

 

[FourthTimeAround]

Tigers were robbed. No ifs, buts or maybes. The rule is the goal umpire's decision can only be overturned if the vision is definitive. There's absolutely no way that was the case last night. There's no grey area here. They were robbed.

So the 3 video angles are inconclusive, and the fact they are inconclusive means there is no grey area?
Why can't you accept that the three camera angles - that show the ball over the post at exactly the same time - ARE conclusive?

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

So the 3 video angles are inconclusive, and the fact they are inconclusive means there is no grey area?
Why can't you accept that the three camera angles - that show the ball over the post at exactly the same time - ARE conclusive?

Triangulation.

 

[Sully111]

Yeah, and I understand this is not how it works, but pragmatically I am happy for "beyond reasonable doubt" (the current use of ARC) to be replaced by "balance of probabilities" in cases where the umpire had low confidence in his initial decision.

That's what happened here. Goal umpire had that look on his face, I don't think he had much clue, would have been hard from that position. So his forced decision is a low confidence one. Whilst not 99% sure, the video replay, I'd suggest you'd definitely say with greater than 50% confidence it was a behind.

That's all fine. But that's not currently the rule, so until it is, it's unnaceptable.

 

[afl genius]

Right decision made, so in a way the technology works because the umpire somehow thought it was a goal.In a last quarter of very few frees, the danniher block free should have been play on, so Tigers supporters can't complain

 

[Chad Copeland]

Jeez people get into Chris Scott

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for sooking it up... Dimma throws the toys out the cot weekly...

 

[docko911]

You've just proved you did. That one in the top right doesn't match the original one you posted.

The Balls below the guy in the white to the right of goal post here. In the one you showed to prove you didn't it's to the left of him over the post.

My mistake I thought you quoted my 2nd post not my first one.

But yes those screenshots are from the same screenshot

 

[docko911]

90 degree angle shift from one image to another. Ball over the post in both. Eliminates all parallax illusions.

Basic geometry proves the ball went over the post.

Brilliant by the ARC. The umpire suspected it may have gone over the post and asked the ARC to check, and they did.

Great result.

You would be correct if the ball position from the left side wasn’t different to the right. The left angle is to the left side of the post while the right angle is over the post. Over that distance basic geometry would highlight the ball was not directly over the post.

 

[Cool Kangas]

Decisions made by umpires on the fly are often wrong.

This is different.

This is a guy with time and vision. It's a score review put in place for the purpose of getting it right. But there are simple rules around it. The rule is simple. If it's not absolutely definitive, it goes back to the umpire's call. That's it. He didn't follow that simple rule.

Tigers got shafted. Season over. Not good enough.

Honestly, if my team had beaten them that way I'd be happy for the win, but my position on the rule would be exactly the same.

There's no grey area here.

I don’t get it though. If the ball sails directly over the goal post it’s obviously a point because if that post was any taller the ball would have hit the post. I think that makes the most sense. I actually think the overrule was right.

 

[Dazb86]

Still shocked the ARC made the right call. It's normally farcial.

 

[Libba39]

Why are people so fixated on blurry still images from a 1980s TV screen? The actual vision shows it best that it clearly missed.

Let's hope you're never on the jury at a murder trial...

#clueless

 

[Forward Press]

No I haven’t mate

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Am I missing something?

Because these screenshots provide conclusive evidence the ball travelled over the post.

 

[Chad Copeland]

The bloke has issues....cradle snatcher....smirking like a tool when talking about Dusty at rippers.....constantly feels like he is hard done by.....instantly unlikeable.

Apparently it was COVID's fault he ditched his family....

See a trend?

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

Let's hope you're never on the jury at a murder trial...

#clueless

Yes because it's exactly the same thing. Cool story dude.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Well technically they don’t because they lost but the ARC cheated to prevent Richmond from scoring the winning goal.

It's kind of funny that I honestly can't tell if you're serious or taking the piss....

 

[BringFevBack2021]

90 degree angle shift from one image to another. Ball over the post in both. Eliminates all parallax illusions.

Basic geometry proves the ball went over the post.

Brilliant by the ARC. The umpire suspected it may have gone over the post and asked the ARC to check, and they did.

Great result.

This seemed so blatantly obvious to me, I can't believe people are still harping on about it this morning.

Games over, Lynch missed and the ARC did their job.

 

[Xtreme]

Massive mistake playing Dusty. He was so underdone.

Even the GOAT can't carry 23 others, the coaching staff, 3 premiership cups, 3 premiership medals and 3 Norm Smith medals on his shoulders and expect to still dominate!!

 

[Elixuh]

No I haven’t mate

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Dude you need to digitally alter these, I was with you on the corruption angle you raised, but a lot of the pics you're putting up actually make it look like the ball went straight over the post. This is not good for your argument.

Anyway, I don't know how they allow this but apparently the head Arc guy is a Lions season member.

 

[Obeanie1]

Would love to hear from AFL House on how the umpires colours were determined for last nights game!

Yellow and black. WTF?

I mean how freakin hard is it guys for all the umpires to NOT BE WEARING THE EXACT COLOURS OF ONE TEAM PLAYING!

I find it incredible that the AFL can still make such dumb decisions. Mind blowing actually.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Richmond fans can complain about the score review.....but in the final big play they had 5-6 defenders in the goalsquare and couldn't kill the ball. They all ended up spoiling each other and falling over themselves, letting the ball end up in Daniher's lap.

That's entirely on them.

 

[dean33]

Can you explain how the ball can be above the goal post in two different camera angles at the exact same time?

Unless they have a side on angle that shows if the ball has crossed the line they couldn’t have made that call. Rubbish call that cost the game.