Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 1 - Demons v Dogs Sun March 17th 1pm AEDT (MCG)

[Pablito]

No. TBH I don’t think anyone has really had cause to think about Carlton for much of the last thirty years.

It was last year, its time to move on. Acres can't hurt you anymore.

 

[00Stinger]

Put us out of our misery.

I want a coach that can teach us how to play as a team.

Need more balance in that team too

An issue to me is having outside players like Treloar that are shit ball users. Plus you don't seem to put alot of pressure on oppo teams

Should put Naughton back too and never have Lobb ever play again

Bont was killer for 2 & 1/2 quarters though, got tired carrying your midfield. And JUH, damn he has some bloody moves, going to be an absolute star

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[hawker79]

Matt Hill is surely putting on this voice. Sounds like a guy imitating what a racing commentator sounds like.

Have thought this even listening to him commentate the races.

haha spot on, first time ive heard him, not a fan i must say, could be worse though, the voice does feel put on. could be his natural voice and how he speaks, but it feels like being back in the 1950s or being in some dingy TAB with a bunch of ol geezers. he might be ok for racing, i dont watch it i dont care, but for AFL no thanks!

 

[CarnTheScray]

Need more balance in that team too

An issue to me is having outside players like Treloar that are s**t ball users. Plus you don't seem to put alot of pressure on oppo teams

Should put Naughton back too and never have Lobb ever play again

Bont was killer for 2 & 1/2 quarters though, got tired carrying your midfield. And JUH, damn he has some bloody moves, going to be an absolute star

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Naughton needs to play CHB but the club and half the supporter base insist we are better off with him in the forward line despite him not being a natural forward at all. Him kicking as many goals as he has is a testament to the talent he has, but he is not coached well nor does he play like a forward, rarely leads, plays from behind trying to get the speccy etc.

Never seen Bont so frustrated on the field until this game and some games last season. He will be in his thirties before we look like doing anything again.

I think half the story is just that the coaches time is up, they have lost belief whether they truly believe it or not. Cannot seriously say it is entirely down to some players not being as good as we think (even though we select some REAL CRAP players, **** we know how to pick em). Every other team I’ve watched this round has looked far more enjoyable, with clear game plans and systems in place even if the side is not brimming with talent you can tell they have been well coached on what to do in each scenario and bring a level of physicality and intensity. I see none of that with us. First time at the footy where I haven’t been outgoing and had any sort of release or reaction to a bit of play, just kinda sat there and copped it, almost yelled when McNeil turned it over for the 8 time but I didn’t, because I knew it was going to happen, because I’ve seen it before.

 

[danster168]

There's no excuses for the dogs not beating us today. The dogs got gifted an elite talent in Ugle-Hagan and followed that up with being gifted Sam Darcy to play alongside a gun in Naughton. What a luxurious position to be in. Meanwhile the dees are playing Ben Brown

50

Ben Brown

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

and Tom Mcdonald

25

Tom Mcdonald

Age

32

Ht

195cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

261.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.6

1star

MG

135.6

2star

D

13.8

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

in key position posts.

 

[YeoShuey]

There's no excuses for the dogs not beating us today. The dogs got gifted an elite talent in Ugle-Hagan and followed that up with being gifted Sam Darcy to play alongside a gun in Naughton. What a luxurious position to be in. Meanwhile the dees are playing Ben Brown and Tom Mcdonald in key position posts.

There is an excuse. They're shit, that's the excuse.

Only player worthy of star status or value there is Bontempelli. He can't always carry the team on his own.

 

[revo333]

Not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread yet but the Dogs were gifted the flag apparently.

 

[Bont15]

I've thought this for years!

Needs to go back and dominate a year or two. Forward is far harder to play than back.

 

[Dazb86]

Not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread yet but the Dogs were gifted the flag apparently.

The trophy even had red, white and blue ribbons.

Pretty hard to argue against when the AFL make it that obvious

 

[TiAn_]

The trophy even had red, white and blue ribbons.

Pretty hard to argue against when the AFL make it that obvious

I reckon if they call it a gift a few more times and wish really, really hard it might even rewrite our memories for all us Dogs supporters that were actually there.

 

[Dazb86]

I reckon if they call it a gift a few more times and wish really, really hard it might even rewrite our memories for all us Dogs supporters that were actually there.

I liked the gift of not playing at our home ground once in that finals series.

 

[brmi]

I'd take a gifted flag at the MCG over a fake *flag won in WA.

 

[Bald]

There's no excuses for the dogs not beating us today. The dogs got gifted an elite talent in Ugle-Hagan and followed that up with being gifted Sam Darcy to play alongside a gun in Naughton. What a luxurious position to be in. Meanwhile the dees are playing Ben Brown and Tom Mcdonald in key position posts.

Isn't Steven May only on your list due to a priority pick?

 

[_Mike_]

Meanwhile the dees are playing Ben Brown and Tom Mcdonald in key position posts.

You should know by now that the Dogs always seem to play ordinary opposition players into form.

 

[danster168]

I'd take a gifted flag at the MCG over a fake *flag won in WA.

Your players were pretty devo to lose this 'fake flag'. Our flag was harder to win than a normal flag given we had to finish on top and play away in all of our finals

 

[Sentinel]

Isn't Steven May only on your list due to a priority pick?

Jack Viney was pretty good on Sunday too, not sure how he landed at the Dees but obviously given Danster's message they've never been fortunate to benefit from AFL draft quirks of the day.

 

[danster168]

Jack Viney was pretty good on Sunday too, not sure how he landed at the Dees but obviously given Danster's message they've never been fortunate to benefit from AFL draft quirks of the day.

if you did your research you'd see that the dees have been one of the least benefited club in terms of father son in the league. One decent player in 25 years...

Not to mention getting shafted by the NGA rules. we should've had Mac Andrew but the afl changed the rules immediately after they realised the dogs had been gifted too much. There's no excuse for the dogs not to be top 4.

 

[Bald]

Your players were pretty devo to lose this 'fake flag'. Our flag was harder to win than a normal flag given we had to finish on top and play away in all of our finals

You realise the Dogs didn't play at Marvel once during their 2016 finals series, right?

 

[brmi]

Your players were pretty devo to lose this 'fake flag'. Our flag was harder to win than a normal flag given we had to finish on top and play away in all of our finals

Way to miss the point champ.

And no, your flag was not harder to win than ours. But keep telling your self that if it makes you feel better - just like winning a flag in Perth instead of at the MCG doesn't bother you either.

 

[schmuttt]

Naughton needs to play CHB but the club and half the supporter base insist we are better off with him in the forward line despite him not being a natural forward at all. Him kicking as many goals as he has is a testament to the talent he has, but he is not coached well nor does he play like a forward, rarely leads, plays from behind trying to get the speccy etc.

Never seen Bont so frustrated on the field until this game and some games last season. He will be in his thirties before we look like doing anything again.

I think half the story is just that the coaches time is up, they have lost belief whether they truly believe it or not. Cannot seriously say it is entirely down to some players not being as good as we think (even though we select some REAL CRAP players, * we know how to pick em). Every other team I’ve watched this round has looked far more enjoyable, with clear game plans and systems in place even if the side is not brimming with talent you can tell they have been well coached on what to do in each scenario and bring a level of physicality and intensity. I see none of that with us. First time at the footy where I haven’t been outgoing and had any sort of release or reaction to a bit of play, just kinda sat there and copped it, almost yelled when McNeil turned it over for the 8 time but I didn’t, because I knew it was going to happen, because I’ve seen it before.

Not trying to sound like a flog but Melbourne seem to beat the dogs the same way every time - Gawn gets on top in the middle and May kills Naughton. Dogs then bomb it down the line and turn it over. I thought our performance was ok but it’s hard to take a lot out of it when the dogs seem to have a broken system.

 

[schmuttt]

Also please stop replying to danster

 

[Dazb86]

Not trying to sound like a flog but Melbourne seem to beat the dogs the same way every time - Gawn gets on top in the middle and May kills Naughton. Dogs then bomb it down the line and turn it over. I thought our performance was ok but it’s hard to take a lot out of it when the dogs seem to have a broken system.

We still bring a half forward to the stoppages as an extra mid. Plays right into your hands to free up the extra number to intercept at half back.

We always seem to cough up ridiculous turnovers against you guys as well. Stationary 15m sidewards kicks getting picked off etc.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Not trying to sound like a flog but Melbourne seem to beat the dogs the same way every time - Gawn gets on top in the middle and May kills Naughton. Dogs then bomb it down the line and turn it over. I thought our performance was ok but it’s hard to take a lot out of it when the dogs seem to have a broken system.

Everyone knows. Got beaten the same way in 2022, had a few players have moments individual brilliance that won us the same in late 2022, then lost 2023 the exact same way, then lost yesterday the same way. We all know what the answer is: hint it stats with C and ends in “ing”.

 

[00Stinger]

Way to miss the point champ.

And no, your flag was not harder to win than ours. But keep telling your self that if it makes you feel better - just like winning a flag in Perth instead of at the MCG doesn't bother you either.

Legit, why does winning a GF at the MCG seem better than winning one interstate?

 

[Young Redleg]

I'd take a gifted flag at the MCG over a fake *flag won in WA.

I love how bitter you are over that GF. It's probably the 50th time you've brought it up.