Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 24 - Blues v Saints Sun Aug 25th 3:20pm AEST (Marvel)

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AFL 2024 PREMIERSHIP SEASON ROUND 24
CARLTON V ST KILDA
SUNDAY AUGUST 25TH 3:20PM AEST (MARVEL)

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Teams:
BLUES
B: Le. Young, J. Weitering, L. Cowan
HB: A. Saad, M. McGovern, N. Newman
C: O. Hollands, P. Cripps - C, B. Acres
HF: Z. Williams, B. Kemp, E. Hollands
F: M. Owies, C. Curnow, J. Motlop
FOLL: M. Pittonet, S. Walsh, G. Hewett

I/C (FROM): A. Cincotta, M. Kennedy, J. Carroll, C. Durdin, C. Lord, O. Fantasia, J. Binns

IN: A. Saad, C. Curnow, O. Fantasia
OUT: Nil

SAINTS
B: J. Battle, D. Howard, C. Wilkie
HB: L. Stocker, N. Wanganeen-Milera, J. Webster
C: M. Wood, H. Clark, Z. Jones
HF: B. Hill, M. Phillipou, M. Owens
F: J. Higgins, T. Membrey, C. Sharman
FOLL: R. Marshall, J. Steele - C, J. Sinclair

I/C (FROM): R. Byrnes, P. Dow, D. Butler, J. Hayes, D. Wilson, T. Campbell, A. McLennan

IN: M. Phillipou, J. Hayes, T. Campbell, A. McLennan
OUT: A. Caminiti (Injured)


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[JackFlash]

Saints by 16 points

 

[Toump Ass]

Let's go Sainters, do it for the good of all mankind!!!!

 

[Kenny Hunter09]

Let's go Sainters, do it for the good of all mankind!!!!

What are you on about? Mankind is all good given where Essendon and Collingwood are sitting.

 

[NetworkNerd]

What a hard game to tip
Will it be the St Kilda side that lost to Brisbane by 85 points or the one that had a 10 goal turnaound against Geelong?
Will it be the Carlton side that looked slow against Hawthorn but had an inspirational win against West Coast.

 

[My Tilly]

Just when you think it's safe to think Saints turn up as they did on the weekend, the opposite will occur.

Carlton by 24 points.

 

[Rustica]

Blues by 19

 

[MickG88]

Go Saints but if we lose then it's not the end of the world. Dream scenario would be Saints by under a goal and GC, Dockers and Dees winning.

 

[Saint12]

Saints by 100

 

[g_TRAIN]

Hopefully Pou is back from illness.

Think we may lose Hill and Caminiti though.

Garcia to get a full game would be nice.

If Carlton don't turn up we will get em.

 

[RAPPA]

Surely Saints can't lose this. Other than two hideous efforts (against Crows and Lions), they've been pretty good post-bye.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Surely Saints can't lose this. Other than two hideous efforts (against Crows and Lions), they've been pretty good post-bye.

Don't tell us what we can and can't lose.

We can lose and we will!

 

[Cam Payne]

Blues are gunna be stunned this week the opposition actually try a little bit after quarter time. Saints by 22.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Blues will be potentially without the following players from their best 23, or from those who are next in line.
Boyd, Cerra, Cottrell, Cuningham, Curnow, DeKoning, Docherty, Fantasia, Fogarty, Marchbank, Martin, McKay, Saad, Silvagni. There are also clouds over three players from the WC game. Durdin, Williams and McGovern.
That's 17 players from the best side, or the surrounding fringe players.
Then there's Sam Durdin

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Sam Durdin

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

6.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

, who would likely have to come in if Gov misses and Kemp stays forward. He's still out injured. Plus two last players who haven't played a game yet, in Matt Carroll and Hudson O'Keeffe.
That's 20 players out of 45 not available.
We will have the following players available to choose from to fill possibly 3 spots for this game.
Akuei (0 games), Lemmey (0 games), Mirkov (0 games), Monahan (0 games), Wilson (0 games). That's it! 5 players left to choose from, none with ANY senior experience.

Will be a miracle if Blues can win this.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Surely Saints can't lose this. Other than two hideous efforts (against Crows and Lions), they've been pretty good post-bye.

We were also going really well in that Adelaide game before it started hosing down (and Sharman looked set to have the big day out that he ended up having a couple of weeks later, with two goals in the first, and looking really on), but we lost all ability to score once it turned into a wet slog. Our first wet weather game since some time last year.

Lost our first post-bye game to Port by 2 points, but have won 5 of 7 since, by an average winning margin of 40 points. With two of those 5 wins being against top 4 teams.

There’s been virtually no mention of it in the media, but our midfield was decimated in the first half of the season (the main loss being Crouch, who was top 20 in the Brownlow last year, but neither Clark or Dow were available for the first 9 rounds either, while Jones was really struggling and Seb a shadow of his former self, so our midfield was essentially Steele, and then literally VFL standard).

But now that we’ve had Jones back in form and Clark and sometimes Dow back in there, we’ve unsurprisingly been far more competitive more often. Essentially back to what we were capable of last season.

But with a better balance between offence and defence than we had last year. Still no.2 in the AFL for points conceded, but now kicking over 100 points very regularly.

So if we come to play again this week and you guys get over the line, you’ll have thoroughly earned your finals spot, with back-to-back super-meritorious wins.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Caminiti ruled out for us with a shoulder, but Hill looks like he’s expected to play, and it sounds as though Phillipou has overcome his illness, so you’d think it will just be a straight swap of Pou for Caminiti, with Wood to spend more time forward.

 

[RedWhite4Ever]

Blues will be potentially without the following players from their best 23, or from those who are next in line.
Boyd, Cerra, Cottrell, Cuningham, Curnow, DeKoning, Docherty, Fantasia, Fogarty, Marchbank, Martin, McKay, Saad, Silvagni. There are also clouds over three players from the WC game. Durdin, Williams and McGovern.
That's 17 players from the best side, or the surrounding fringe players.
Then there's Sam Durdin, who would likely have to come in if Gov misses and Kemp stays forward. He's still out injured. Plus two last players who haven't played a game yet, in Matt Carroll and Hudson O'Keeffe.
That's 20 players out of 45 not available.
We will have the following players available to choose from to fill possibly 3 spots for this game.
Akuei (0 games), Lemmey (0 games), Mirkov (0 games), Monahan (0 games), Wilson (0 games). That's it! 5 players left to choose from, none with ANY senior experience.

Will be a miracle if Blues can win this.

Making excuses already I see...

Saints by 72 points.

 

[Mr Meow]

Blues will be potentially without the following players from their best 23, or from those who are next in line.
Boyd, Cerra, Cottrell, Cuningham, Curnow, DeKoning, Docherty, Fantasia, Fogarty, Marchbank, Martin, McKay, Saad, Silvagni. There are also clouds over three players from the WC game. Durdin, Williams and McGovern.
That's 17 players from the best side, or the surrounding fringe players.
Then there's Sam Durdin, who would likely have to come in if Gov misses and Kemp stays forward. He's still out injured. Plus two last players who haven't played a game yet, in Matt Carroll and Hudson O'Keeffe.
That's 20 players out of 45 not available.
We will have the following players available to choose from to fill possibly 3 spots for this game.
Akuei (0 games), Lemmey (0 games), Mirkov (0 games), Monahan (0 games), Wilson (0 games). That's it! 5 players left to choose from, none with ANY senior experience.

Will be a miracle if Blues can win this.

Cool story, just remember that Carlton are $1.80 favourites so a Blues victory is actually the expected outcome.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Cool story, just remember that Carlton are $1.80 favourites so a Blues victory is actually the expected outcome.

Faves against saints, but underdogs against WC. Yeah, those odds will drift the other way.
This is a much tougher game than WC.

 

[Mr Meow]

Faves against saints, but underdogs against WC. Yeah, those odds will drift the other way.
This is a much tougher game than WC.

Carlton shouldn't have been underdogs against WCE - a team that had lost at home to St Kilda, Essendon and NM at home this year.

St Kilda are a threat if they play as they did in the 2nd half against Geelong. If they play as they did in the 1st half then this has a 5 goal Carlton win written all over it. So in that respect we have a 50/50 game in my view. No "miracle" about it. The Saints have been better in the back half of the year but have still been thumped when the opposition play well (first half against Geelong, then the Brisbane and Adelaide games).

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Making excuses already I see...

Saints by 72 points.

Well, presenting facts as reasons why it will be difficult for us to win is basically an excuse, yes.
Excuses are reasons for why something will or won't happen.
Occasionally, both teams will put their best teams on the park against each other in perfect conditions and the best team on the day will be the victor. Most times, other factors will contribute to the result.
Reasons ARE excuses. Yes, the Saints should win this and probably fairly comfortably. Will take a hell of a game from the Blues (or a terrible one from the Saints) to get the win. Not impossible, but not likely.
I call it being realistic.

 

[NetworkNerd]

Faves against saints, but underdogs against WC. Yeah, those odds will drift the other way.
This is a much tougher game than WC.

Carlton supporters I talk to say some of the big guns are ok to play if it was a grand final but Voss/Match committee have to work out if it is worth playing them this week to get into the finals at the risk of season ending injuries.

 

[MickG88]

Carlton shouldn't have been underdogs against WCE - a team that had lost at home to St Kilda, Essendon and NM at home this year.

St Kilda are a threat if they play as they did in the 2nd half against Geelong. If they play as they did in the 1st half then this has a 5 goal Carlton win written all over it. So in that respect we have a 50/50 game in my view. No "miracle" about it. The Saints have been better in the back half of the year but have still been thumped when the opposition play well (first half against Geelong, then the Brisbane and Adelaide games).

Not thumped by Geelong and Adelaide. Adelaide were a goal up all game until Thilthorpe came on the ground in the last quarter (or something close to that) and Geelong were 5 goals up at half time, not a thumping.
The only two really disappointing games were Brisbane and Dogs, which were thumping.

 

[Mr Meow]

Not thumped by Geelong and Adelaide. Adelaide were a goal up all game until Thilthorpe came on the ground in the last quarter (or something close to that) and Geelong were 5 goals up at half time, not a thumping.
The only two really disappointing games were Brisbane and Dogs, which were thumping.

Why bother getting sensitive about this, I already said St Kilda's best football would pose a serious threat.

Adelaide was a comfortable loss in the wet, and if Geelong replicated the first half with St Kilda playing to the same level it would've been a 10 goal loss. That level will be beaten by a desperate Carlton.

However the level displayed in the second half vs Geelong or Sydney will potentially topple Carlton. All logical when you take the emotion out of it.

 

[Atomboy]

Why bother getting sensitive about this, I already said St Kilda's best football would pose a serious threat.

Adelaide was a comfortable loss in the wet, and if Geelong replicated the first half with St Kilda playing to the same level it would've been a 10 goal loss. That level will be beaten by a desperate Carlton.

However the level displayed in the second half vs Geelong or Sydney will potentially topple Carlton. All logical when you take the emotion out of it.

So if we play good footy then we win, and if we play bad footy then we lose.

I like this approach.