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[Beerfish]

Nathan Philactides

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Nathan Philactides Draft Profile

A run-and-gun defender with searing speed and agility, Oakleigh's Nathan Philactides takes the game on with each possession.

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I saw born 2005 and thought **** I'm old and couldn't go any further

 

[ydc55]

I am starting to wonder if Nathan Philactides is worth a look at for our 2nd rounder.

We don't have a heap of running defender depth, and he was reasonably highly rated at the start of the year.

eDPS what's your view of him?

He is not good enough to be taken there in my opinion.
Does not defend terrifically well and kicking is hit and miss.

 

[eDPS]

I am starting to wonder if Nathan Philactides is worth a look at for our 2nd rounder.

We don't have a heap of running defender depth, and he was reasonably highly rated at the start of the year.

eDPS what's your view of him?

I can no longer answer any Oakleigh related questions, you can blame ydc55 lol

 

[jdstorm]

I am starting to wonder if Nathan Philactides is worth a look at for our 2nd rounder.

We don't have a heap of running defender depth, and he was reasonably highly rated at the start of the year.

eDPS what's your view of him?

Height limit 185cm please

 

[NoWuckingFurries]

Sanders has a ready made nickname.
On this logic alone he must be chosen

 

[Yoda_]

I am starting to wonder if Nathan Philactides is worth a look at for our 2nd rounder.

We don't have a heap of running defender depth, and he was reasonably highly rated at the start of the year.

eDPS what's your view of him?

Good to see someone else realise that running defenders is a big issue on the list.

A few seem to be possible in that 20 - 35 mark. I like the sound of Riley Hardeman, high 180's, good kicker, leadership. Ticks a few boxes

 

[doug85]

Sanders has a ready made nickname.
On this logic alone he must be chosen

I’m praying the colonel lands at our pick

 

[ydc55]

I can no longer answer any Oakleigh related questions, you can blame ydc55 lol

Geez Ed
i was only having a bit of fun.
your opinion is highly rated.
I did not see improvement in his top age year. What are your thoughts?

 

[Happyskeret]

Phill Act Ides

 

[ant555]

Good to see someone else realise that running defenders is a big issue on the list.

A few seem to be possible in that 20 - 35 mark. I like the sound of Riley Hardeman, high 180's, good kicker, leadership. Ticks a few boxes

Not sure you can single out one area as a big issue . The running defenders also need someone to kick it to who can take a mark so it does not zing back the other way and leave them out of position.

A bit of a left field suggestion for running half back IMO would be Charlie Edwards . I know his recent form has been midfield but he has come through playing half back . At 190cm / 82kg and good speed he is one that could be considered with our first pick.
Otherwise I suspect it would be out of Tew Jitah / Archie Roberts / Arei Schoenmaker / Luamon Lual / Riley Hardeman who as a collective offer various options. Others could say if there is someone coming from a bit further back.

 

[Yoda_]

Not sure you can single out one area as a big issue . The running defenders also need someone to kick it to who can take a mark so it does not zing back the other way and leave them out of position.

A bit of a left field suggestion for running half back IMO would be Charlie Edwards . I know his recent form has been midfield but he has come through playing half back . At 190cm / 82kg and good speed he is one that could be considered with our first pick.
Otherwise I suspect it would be out of Tew Jitah / Archie Roberts / Arei Schoenmaker / Luamon Lual / Riley Hardeman who as a collective offer various options. Others could say if there is someone coming from a bit further back.

I would lthe flankers we invariably bring in this off season to be more capable overhead (Gresham), if they are not marking types then elite kicking is my next preference hence my suggestion of needing kickers.

I think Sam Clohesy is a name we should consider in the middle of the draft, impressive 20 y.o from Weribee. Big, good overhead, kicks reasonably well. At 20 would be more ready sooner than later imho.

Of the names you mentioned, I really like the sound of Darcy Wilson with our first, seems he'd be more wing than HB although will likely start there? (?), Hardemann is a name that piques my interest as well.

 

[ant555]

I would lthe flankers we invariably bring in this off season to be more capable overhead (Gresham), if they are not marking types then elite kicking is my next preference hence my suggestion of needing kickers.

I think Sam Clohesy is a name we should consider in the middle of the draft, impressive 20 y.o from Weribee. Big, good overhead, kicks reasonably well. At 20 would be more ready sooner than later imho.

Of the names you mentioned, I really like the sound of Darcy Wilson with our first, seems he'd be more wing than HB although will likely start there? (?), Hardemann is a name that piques my interest as well.

Gresham is not a flanker. He is a small forward who can play some midfield. he is not number 1 on my list but he is better than Snelling and Guelfi .
Problem this year alone you have changed several times. KPF. Small Forward who can kick goals and now flankers. Not saying strong marking medium types are not a need . They are but so is a marking CHF and a small forward who kicks goals . A third ruck who can play . That is why it will be a longer build up.
I would say the third ruck is the most important spot with Phillips gone. We need one who can play as Sam is no sure thing to be on the park all year and Bryan will need some help.
Clohsey would be a late pick option but I doubt we take more than 3 picks and upgrade Baldwin. It will actually be next year that could see a lot more changes with the number of players out of contract.

 

[Yoda_]

Gresham is not a flanker. He is a small forward who can play some midfield. he is not number 1 on my list but he is better than Snelling and Guelfi .
Problem this year alone you have changed several times. KPF. Small Forward who can kick goals and now flankers. Not saying strong marking medium types are not a need . They are but so is a marking CHF and a small forward who kicks goals . A third ruck who can play . That is why it will be a longer build up.
I would say the third ruck is the most important spot with Phillips gone. We need one who can play as Sam is no sure thing to be on the park all year and Bryan will need some help.
Clohsey would be a late pick option but I doubt we take more than 3 picks and upgrade Baldwin. It will actually be next year that could see a lot more changes with the number of players out of contract.

Ive learnt a bit about the game and where we are breaking down. My list needs have settled. Obviously balancing out what we have already.

 

[ant555]

Nice goal by Kako

 

[ant555]

Ive learnt a bit about the game and where we are breaking down. My list needs have settled. Obviously balancing out what we have already.

Problem is we break down in a number of areas. Contested footy (real hard ball gets around the ground) . marking in front of the ball. Sped from half back. Defensive mined players . Leadership . How do you balance out 5 different areas ? What we have got needs a lot of upgrade.

 

[jdstorm]

Problem is we break down in a number of areas. Contested footy (real hard ball gets around the ground) . marking in front of the ball. Sped from half back. Defensive mined players . Leadership . How do you balance out 5 different areas ? What we have got needs a lot of upgrade.

A fast tough defensive minded HB who can kick and Mark fills every single one of those needs in 1 player.

Finding more generalist multi skilled players say 2-3 balanced mids/flankers would go a long way to fixing all of those issues

 

[ant555]

A fast tough defensive minded HB who can kick and Mark fills every single one of those needs in 1 player.

Finding more generalist multi skilled players say 2-3 balanced mids/flankers would go a long way to fixing all of those issues

Can not mark the ball forward of half back if you are a half back
Seriously . How many times do we come out of the back half and actually mark the footy . I would say 1/20. You want to know why we look unfit ? we are constantly running back the other way after not being able to compete and mark when we do come out of defense. Started the year well by chipping it around and avoiding kicks down the line but as the year went on sides just zoned the middle against us and forced us down the line.
Finding a marking CHF is just as important . My real point is more it will take 3 years of FA /Trade / Draft because we have a few areas to fill.

 

[Keystone agony]

Can not mark the ball forward of half back if you are a half back
Seriously . How many times do we come out of the back half and actually mark the footy . I would say 1/20. You want to know why we look unfit ? we are constantly running back the other way after not being able to compete and mark when we do come out of defense. Started the year well by chipping it around and avoiding kicks down the line but as the year went on sides just zoned the middle against us and forced us down the line.
Finding a marking CHF is just as important . My real point is more it will take 3 years of FA /Trade / Draft because we have a few areas to fill.

Probably 4-5 years if your theory is heavily around a CHF

 

[Just A Tragic]

Probably 4-5 years if your theory is heavily around a CHF

I agree with ant555 about the list needs, but I think 2-3 years is achievable if we keep look at free agency and keeping top end picks.

CHF / marking down the line is really only 1 player plus some better development into the Ruck. To be fair, they tried to address moneybags style with Weid. Didn't work and need a new a new option.

Half Back runner is a great place for high-draft mids to start (if they can dispose).

But we shouldn't be looking to bottom out or expect to be top 8 next year. Build on the game plan. Find out who isn't going to live up to it. Develop leadership and identity.

 

[Yoda_]

Problem is we break down in a number of areas. Contested footy (real hard ball gets around the ground) . marking in front of the ball. Sped from half back. Defensive mined players . Leadership . How do you balance out 5 different areas ? What we have got needs a lot of upgrade.

Id think that we give the young guys the opportunity to fill a void we are missing. Small forward best case in point. If Nick Watson is available at our first, we should pass.

We already have 3 kids who are relatively untried or have scope to improve. They may not end up as good as Watson but the player we select (hypothetical a CHF) ends up better than the incumbent we currently have.

That is where Id like us to target the areas our list genuinely breaks down. HBF, CHF, 3rd ruck, HFF, pad out the midfield depth if possible

 

[jdstorm]

Id think that we give the young guys the opportunity to fill a void we are missing. Small forward best case in point. If Nick Watson is available at our first, we should pass.

We already have 3 kids who are relatively untried or have scope to improve. They may not end up as good as Watson but the player we select (hypothetical a CHF) ends up better than the incumbent we currently have.

That is where Id like us to target the areas our list genuinely breaks down. HBF, CHF, 3rd ruck, HFF, pad out the midfield depth if possible

I don’t think CHF is in that bad of a spot. Have quite a few young guys in Jones/hunter, having Wright push up and Draper/Bryan developing should get first option. Then there’s always the chance Cox/Reid become solid there.

If you have every other position sorted with good depth then you can always go after someone via Trade

 

[Old Campaigner]

I agree with ant555 about the list needs, but I think 2-3 years is achievable if we keep look at free agency and keeping top end picks.

CHF / marking down the line is really only 1 player plus some better development into the Ruck. To be fair, they tried to address moneybags style with Weid. Didn't work and need a new a new option.

Half Back runner is a great place for high-draft mids to start (if they can dispose).

But we shouldn't be looking to bottom out or expect to be top 8 next year. Build on the game plan. Find out who isn't going to live up to it. Develop leadership and identity.

Nah it’ll be 5+ years. We’re not just in need of filling existing gaps (of which there are many) in the list but we’ll also need to address emerging gaps as current players get past their prime.

 

[Big Fresh]

eDPS Is George Stevens with the first pick realistic at all? Limited athletically but genuinely physical, a leader, and kicking looks more than serviceable. The query seems to be if he can spread and get to enough contests, or is a purely inside mid like Brodie or Constable, which doesn't seem to have a place in the AFL.

 

[ant555]

Id think that we give the young guys the opportunity to fill a void we are missing. Small forward best case in point. If Nick Watson is available at our first, we should pass.

We already have 3 kids who are relatively untried or have scope to improve. They may not end up as good as Watson but the player we select (hypothetical a CHF) ends up better than the incumbent we currently have.

That is where Id like us to target the areas our list genuinely breaks down. HBF, CHF, 3rd ruck, HFF, pad out the midfield depth if possible

The only issue I have with Watson is I am not sold on his forward pressure . He has more attacking X factor than anything we have. I would prefer Caddy / Wilson / Leake / Edwards .

 

[ant555]

Probably 4-5 years if your theory is heavily around a CHF

It is not just a draft theory . We will need to be good in all areas of Draft / Trade / FA to turn it in 2 or 3 years in my opinion. I know full well if it is Caddy then we are not going to see him fully plugging the gap until 2026 or further. Right now I think we have a few too many gaps for me to get too excited in anything shorter term. Of course that changes if some of our young blokes actually find a couple of levels and we find some of what we want in the next two trade periods.
Big year coming up , not results wise but player wise. We have a shit load of players out of contract at the end of next year. A lot of the young guys will need to be improving a lot.