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anyone know why Hawk missed?
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Because their forward line is far more flexible than a Walker-Hawkins-Clark triumvirate, and they only have one ruckman. If the forward setup for them isn't working, Petrie or Brown can move into a ruck-support role. Also, Petrie is mobile enough to make it work, while Walker, Hawkins and Clark (particularly Hawkins and Walker) are stay-at-home forwards who can run the risk of getting in each other's way.So one of your concerns is Norths three tall,but if we do something similar we're to tall.![]()
I think so too - not in terms of favouring youth at any cost, but more so to strengthen the concept that the role who go to the player who has played the best within it at reserves/AFL level.Maybe , I think with the experience of Lonergan out they will opt for Rivers... but id like to see them as brave as your inclination.
Because their forward line is far more flexible than a Walker-Hawkins-Clark triumvirate, and they only have one ruckman. If the forward setup for them isn't working, Petrie or Brown can move into a ruck-support role. Also, Petrie is mobile enough to make it work, while Walker, Hawkins and Clark (particularly Hawkins and Walker) are stay-at-home forwards who can run the risk of getting in each other's way.
With Lonergan missing Clark will be again required to spend considerable time in the ruck with Blits stuck down back, I also question the bracketed I'd have thought Hawkins and Clark were more the stay at home forwards if afforded the opportunity not so much Walker.Because their forward line is far more flexible than a Walker-Hawkins-Clark triumvirate, and they only have one ruckman. If the forward setup for them isn't working, Petrie or Brown can move into a ruck-support role. Also, Petrie is mobile enough to make it work, while Walker, Hawkins and Clark (particularly Hawkins and Walker) are stay-at-home forwards who can run the risk of getting in each other's way.
From the birdseye view from the Brownlow Stand, in addition to Bartel and Stokes, half the players coming to the bench were limping or sore in some way. Johnson, Lang, Murdoch (pointing to the back of his knee to the Doc), Motlop were among them. Whatever side we field next week its going to include some sore bodies.
Of the knowns, I'd have GHS for Bartel, Gore for Stokes, Kolo for Lonergan (assuming no risk approach). They'll probably go with Rivers though. Wouldn't be averse to seeing Blease either, particularly if Murdoch is injured (God knows they won't drop him).
anyone know why Hawk missed?
From the birdseye view from the Brownlow Stand, in addition to Bartel and Stokes, half the players coming to the bench were limping or sore in some way. Johnson, Lang, Murdoch (pointing to the back of his knee to the Doc), Motlop were among them. Whatever side we field next week its going to include some sore bodies.
Of the knowns, I'd have GHS for Bartel, Gore for Stokes, Kolo for Lonergan (assuming no risk approach). They'll probably go with Rivers though. Wouldn't be averse to seeing Blease either, particularly if Murdoch is injured (God knows they won't drop him).
Who ever they bring in they(the M/C)must give consideration first and foremost to supporting Selwood so if Gore and Blease can spend minutes in and under they're in.I posted in another thread my thoughts.... i'll copy it over
Gregson goals on the run showed the worth of that type , I suspect that Blease could do that for us as well. Smedts is in that new group Id bring him to test him again V North. Is our midfield is badly coached? Is it lacking confidence and talent ? .... something like that .. I'm not sure what but Gore is another that looks to be part of the future. Gregson has shown a new kid can have an impact.
We just have to have patience , so many new players , we don't seem to know each others game.
So yes , Id like to see Smedts come straight back in , Gore and Blease strongly considered but I suspect Rivers will come in to compensate for Lonergan.
I guess we we will see how many fresh faces a side can carry if we are serious. The interview with S Hocking pregame gave me the impression there were more about fresh talent than old... but too many will only leave us as lambs to the slaughter. SJ and Kelly and Enright knew what to do when it mattered today..even if the majority of the time I felt there input was minimal. The "Ins" will tell us what the MC think.
I'm pretty sure the last premiership team with a true three-tall forward line was Brisbane - and again, that worked because Bradshaw and Brown both had big engines and could get out of each other's way. The next best would probably be Hawthorn (Rough, Franklin, Gunston) but that's really a stretch. The major issue with three talls nowadays is that in the age of the forward press, big talls just aren't agile enough and have to be carried in a sense by the lockdown players when not in possession.Gee that's a load of if ever I've heard it......like a broken record amongst some. They open up the game for the smalls have a look at any game, the smalls have to do their job too.
Yes, I said "they'll probably go with rivers though".Just on Kolo I'd be happy to see him but I don't think they will put another kid again when we already have Lang, Gregson, Cockatoo, Thurlow and Walker all in the side as quite young players, and a lot of injuries, I would say the safer option is either Rivers back in or Blicavs to FB, and they'll go with one of those.
Because their forward line is far more flexible than a Walker-Hawkins-Clark triumvirate, and they only have one ruckman. If the forward setup for them isn't working, Petrie or Brown can move into a ruck-support role. Also, Petrie is mobile enough to make it work, while Walker, Hawkins and Clark (particularly Hawkins and Walker) are stay-at-home forwards who can run the risk of getting in each other's way.
Yes, I said "they'll probably go with rivers though".
I'm coming from a position of being a little concerned how we are going to find games for Kolo and him being OOC at year's end. This is a ripe opportunity but for the point about inexperience of the side overall. Just a shame.
My impression was that despite the fact that he does have a big tank, he doesn't win much football far from goal when playing up forward. Still, I'd be happy to be wrong.Walker is not a stay at home forward, he has super endurance and contributes more defensive pressure than Petrie or Brown or Waite, it is only Hawkins that is a stay at home forward. Really the only issue with us playing all three is that Clark will need to do some ruck minutes (we should settle Walker down as a forward and not keep putting him in the ruck) and that is a big risk with his injury history. But on form we should be playing all three.
I'm not seeing a flood of opportunities. And next time Lonergan or Taylor or Rivers is unavailable, will the side be any more experienced than it was today? I doubt it.He will play afl this year no doubt. Just not sure this week is the right week for it.
I think Smedts is a more likely In than Blease if they drop Murdoch.
My impression was that despite the fact that he does have a big tank, he doesn't win much football far from goal when playing up forward. Still, I'd be happy to be wrong.
The other thing that must be taken into the equation is there's no medium tall IE a Menzel that would have the impact of Walker, either on the body or the score board pushing for selection as we speak.Put simple Walker is for now our best option.Walker is not a stay at home forward, he has super endurance and contributes more defensive pressure than Petrie or Brown or Waite, it is only Hawkins that is a stay at home forward. Really the only issue with us playing all three is that Clark will need to do some ruck minutes (we should settle Walker down as a forward and not keep putting him in the ruck) and that is a big risk with his injury history. But on form we should be playing all three.