Could be wrong, but didn't he give himself the name 'bull'? Thought I read that in that freebie train newspaper last year. On the other hand, maybe it was another player giving him a dig.
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Review AFL Round 7, Sydney defeats Geelong by 43 points
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Some observations:
Kersten is one trick pony mark & kick player nothing more . The missed shots we're critical.
Walker just isn't up to the next level
Gregson worked very hard and is very consistent
Lang improving in his running patterns and disposal
Thurlow was good again
Caddy is probably the most disappointing has to work harder , with Duncan hurt has to step up further
Motlop just doesn't seem as good as last year ?
I didn't really expect to win however I am disappointed in second half not good enough the amount of goals kicked
I don't know why Danger would consider us when we are in for some pain
Kersten is one trick pony mark & kick player nothing more . The missed shots we're critical.
Walker just isn't up to the next level
Gregson worked very hard and is very consistent
Lang improving in his running patterns and disposal
Thurlow was good again
Caddy is probably the most disappointing has to work harder , with Duncan hurt has to step up further
Motlop just doesn't seem as good as last year ?
I didn't really expect to win however I am disappointed in second half not good enough the amount of goals kicked
I don't know why Danger would consider us when we are in for some pain
Yeh, he is that Jack Anthony type, lead and mark. He is not even succeeding when teams have not put any time into him.
He needs to drastically improve his ground level play to make it, if he doesn't, I don't see a long term future for him.
The missed shots have been really costly for him, as he is a nice kick and missing those goals have put him under real pressure now.
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Missed most of the game, FSN made a bit of a deal out of SJ's nutshot. Was it worth weeks?
Probably not but Johnson is acting like a loose canon and it's sad to see him struggling.it must be hard when we had been so in invinceable to now just be an average team .
We use to intimidate,monster sides & sledge now we are powerless against the contenders
Nope - Stevie is a goose but don't think it was intentional-going for the guts. Maybe a week for clumsiness. Lots of people get hysterical about him. Thought he showed he is coming back to some form-only looked too slow once or twice last night. Did plenty of good stuff.
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Agree with all of that, and one of our best 2 or 3 last night, following a top effort v Collingwood..
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Thanks for the info y'all
2nd half similiar to Hawks game in round 1 - lost confidence in taking the first option which shut down the run, permitting the swans to assert their clearnance game.
General observations -
- Geelong does not appear to plan to combat set plays (or doesn't try to execute those plans). Two plays killed Geelong in second half:
1. McViegh continually being allowed to sit 5-10 metres defensive side off a contest for the receive (McViegh then clear these with great vision to running players). No manning up on this or even apparent awareness - they must have cleared the ball 10-15 times that way in second half.
2. The 50 metre pass/switch by Swans in defence across to fat side then link ups all th the way to fwd 50. Fitness an issue stopping this, but again seemed to also be caught "napping"
- Geelong's tackling needs work - couldn't stick tackles particularly against the smaller on-ballers.
- surprisingly nervous decision making by older players continues, particularly Enright and Motlop
- dropped marks, misdirected kicks and hand balls cost goals both ways
- fitness a concern but with all the fade outs has been exacerbated by an injury to a key runner.
Some players-
- Bad games by Walker and kersten but for me at least Walker competed (unfortunately spilt 3 or so fwd 50 marks should have taken). Saw a little more endeavour from Kersten but still not enough. Should be made to look at video of Bews' work. Has to take the few chances he gets.
- Stokes - good stats, but appears to have lost his effectiveness around stoppages and as a link and not longer a goal threat. Doesn't hurt oppositions like he used to be able to do.
- great endeavour by Guthrie but got caught continually after ignoring the first option to clear
- Gregson, Bews, Thurlow shinning lights
- Lang and Stanley continued show good signs
- mostly good work by Blicavs. Would have been a disaster if Kennedy had starred
Umps
No glaring errors but seem to be happy to overlook lots of quick breaches by Swans - holds of the jumper and arms, push outs (including an obvious one by Franklin that resulted in his pack mark near goal,square in third qtr), chop of arms in the marking (like buddy again on Lonegan in 4th qtr). Sides like Swans, Hawks and in particular Freo are brilliant at this - knowing knowing exactly the type of hold, push, block they can get away with.
General observations -
- Geelong does not appear to plan to combat set plays (or doesn't try to execute those plans). Two plays killed Geelong in second half:
1. McViegh continually being allowed to sit 5-10 metres defensive side off a contest for the receive (McViegh then clear these with great vision to running players). No manning up on this or even apparent awareness - they must have cleared the ball 10-15 times that way in second half.
2. The 50 metre pass/switch by Swans in defence across to fat side then link ups all th the way to fwd 50. Fitness an issue stopping this, but again seemed to also be caught "napping"
- Geelong's tackling needs work - couldn't stick tackles particularly against the smaller on-ballers.
- surprisingly nervous decision making by older players continues, particularly Enright and Motlop
- dropped marks, misdirected kicks and hand balls cost goals both ways
- fitness a concern but with all the fade outs has been exacerbated by an injury to a key runner.
Some players-
- Bad games by Walker and kersten but for me at least Walker competed (unfortunately spilt 3 or so fwd 50 marks should have taken). Saw a little more endeavour from Kersten but still not enough. Should be made to look at video of Bews' work. Has to take the few chances he gets.
- Stokes - good stats, but appears to have lost his effectiveness around stoppages and as a link and not longer a goal threat. Doesn't hurt oppositions like he used to be able to do.
- great endeavour by Guthrie but got caught continually after ignoring the first option to clear
- Gregson, Bews, Thurlow shinning lights
- Lang and Stanley continued show good signs
- mostly good work by Blicavs. Would have been a disaster if Kennedy had starred
Umps
No glaring errors but seem to be happy to overlook lots of quick breaches by Swans - holds of the jumper and arms, push outs (including an obvious one by Franklin that resulted in his pack mark near goal,square in third qtr), chop of arms in the marking (like buddy again on Lonegan in 4th qtr). Sides like Swans, Hawks and in particular Freo are brilliant at this - knowing knowing exactly the type of hold, push, block they can get away with.
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telling people they enjoy geelong losing is just offensive, wouldnt you be offended by that?
can you second this?
Totally agree. It goes both ways though. If people are permitted to express endless and eternal optimism (and they are and should be), then others should be equally allowed to criticise the club without enduring abuse. This doesn't always happen.
Ha, lol. Yes I was painting the picture that caddy wasn't alone last night.
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If your answer is no then my opinion of you has gone up even further!
Keep trying Stan, she could be worth every pennyHahahahaha
I'm flattered but it's going to have to be a no, sorry. I have a strict 1 date minimum with regards to entertaining any marriage proposal. I have to keep up some standards
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Good analysis. I have to say, a lot of people here have done a better analysis/review of the game than the 3 overpaid commentators last night. For 2 hours they talked absolute shite. One would think there was one team out on the field
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Its why on that game , id be a tad less critical of Caddy. We just run out of quality. Selwood , playing under a cloud , Duncan out .... it seemed we really were cooked. But not just on that game... Caddy who I have be a supporter for , must find a way to elevate now. He is about on track with years and experience for a good average player.. (22 and 65 games) not for someone as good as he could be. Compare him to Duncan he need to get a fair bit better in the next two years.
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Im never listening to channel 7 again. I have mute it and turn the radio on next time
5 min into 3rd qtr.Thurlow plays on from full back....CADDY lays a half arse sheppard which the Sydney player gets by...thus he gets to Thurlow and ball is kick out on the full.Thurlow give Caddy a clare and Caddy just walks off.
This Spud Caddy stated last year he was an AFL player not VFL......This man has an ego....and needs to be dropped.
Ablett priority draft pick: Caddy & Smets.....wtf
This Spud Caddy stated last year he was an AFL player not VFL......This man has an ego....and needs to be dropped.
Ablett priority draft pick: Caddy & Smets.....wtf
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Dunno what everyone is mad about, ten goal improvement on last year
I didn't comment on it last week, but I thought it was noticeable against the Pies that we were the physically superior side - we stuck our tackles and broke theirs. In the second half last night that wasn't the case, and rarely did the tackler get a reward (partly a function of the umpiring, but anyway). Meant we expended a lot of energy for no gain and that probably contributed to the fadeout in the last quarter.
There were positive signs again from the kids - Bews, Thurlow and Gregson were all good. I'm torn on Walker. On the one hand I thought last night demonstrated that the image some cultivate on here of him as a frustrated superstar unjustly consigned to the VFL is abject nonsense. There are flaws in his game and they've been there since he was a junior. His decision making can be glacial and I don't think he's got the instincts of a top line forward. But by the same token he's steadily improved over his time, and I get the sense some of those flaws will be minimised by experience in the seniors. Certainly wasn't the reason we lost last night.
The other thing that sticks out is that we got stitched up by Parker, while we bemoan the output of Guthrie and Caddy. At a individual level it's not a very fair comparison because Parker is the outstanding player of that draft. But at an institutional one...we desperately need the 2010 class to step up. Smedts is injured and the other three have seemingly regressed. Guthrie had moments last night that showed that he's a good player in something of a form slump rather than vice versa. And I think Caddy is trying hard - and did they put someone on him after Duncan was injured? 8 clearances is pretty good, but on the other hand we got overrun in the middle in the second half and No. 23 seemed to be the common thread in our on-ball set up.
I didn't comment on it last week, but I thought it was noticeable against the Pies that we were the physically superior side - we stuck our tackles and broke theirs. In the second half last night that wasn't the case, and rarely did the tackler get a reward (partly a function of the umpiring, but anyway). Meant we expended a lot of energy for no gain and that probably contributed to the fadeout in the last quarter.
There were positive signs again from the kids - Bews, Thurlow and Gregson were all good. I'm torn on Walker. On the one hand I thought last night demonstrated that the image some cultivate on here of him as a frustrated superstar unjustly consigned to the VFL is abject nonsense. There are flaws in his game and they've been there since he was a junior. His decision making can be glacial and I don't think he's got the instincts of a top line forward. But by the same token he's steadily improved over his time, and I get the sense some of those flaws will be minimised by experience in the seniors. Certainly wasn't the reason we lost last night.
The other thing that sticks out is that we got stitched up by Parker, while we bemoan the output of Guthrie and Caddy. At a individual level it's not a very fair comparison because Parker is the outstanding player of that draft. But at an institutional one...we desperately need the 2010 class to step up. Smedts is injured and the other three have seemingly regressed. Guthrie had moments last night that showed that he's a good player in something of a form slump rather than vice versa. And I think Caddy is trying hard - and did they put someone on him after Duncan was injured? 8 clearances is pretty good, but on the other hand we got overrun in the middle in the second half and No. 23 seemed to be the common thread in our on-ball set up.
Gee caddy is rubbish.
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The kittens tired, which points to your fitness concerns. Duncan has a broken metatarsal
which can be a tricky healing process. Good effort last night, I'm happy when we see consistent effort, just need to work up to four quarters of consistent effort.
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Wind drag on his dirty mo' and moptop.
Duncan has been a-grade since he got a haircut you can set your watch to.
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I thought we showed some good signs last night. The criticism being written seems to come from people thought we were going to win the game and GFC let them down. Sydney are a top team and we are rebuilding - and we played them at their home. We have quite a few injuries and Duncan got injured during the game and Hawkins did not play.
If you had people assess our performance from that perspective I do not think most people would be as harsh as some have been on here.
Start your assessment that we are a middle of the ladder team, with a lot of injuries and a lot of young guys playing - and then make your assessments.
In the first half I thought we were very good considering the difference in experience between the teams. We are improving and will get better as the younger guys get more senior experience and a player or two comes back in from injury.
My biggest concerned for the night was Duncan - we cannot afford to lose him for a long time.
If you had people assess our performance from that perspective I do not think most people would be as harsh as some have been on here.
Start your assessment that we are a middle of the ladder team, with a lot of injuries and a lot of young guys playing - and then make your assessments.
In the first half I thought we were very good considering the difference in experience between the teams. We are improving and will get better as the younger guys get more senior experience and a player or two comes back in from injury.
My biggest concerned for the night was Duncan - we cannot afford to lose him for a long time.
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Dunno what everyone is mad about, ten goal improvement on last year
I didn't comment on it last week, but I thought it was noticeable against the Pies that we were the physically superior side - we stuck our tackles and broke theirs. In the second half last night that wasn't the case, and rarely did the tackler get a reward (partly a function of the umpiring, but anyway). Meant we expended a lot of energy for no gain and that probably contributed to the fadeout in the last quarter.
There were positive signs again from the kids - Bews, Thurlow and Gregson were all good. I'm torn on Walker. On the one hand I thought last night demonstrated that the image some cultivate on here of him as a frustrated superstar unjustly consigned to the VFL is abject nonsense. There are flaws in his game and they've been there since he was a junior. His decision making can be glacial and I don't think he's got the instincts of a top line forward. But by the same token he's steadily improved over his time, and I get the sense some of those flaws will be minimised by experience in the seniors. Certainly wasn't the reason we lost last night.
The other thing that sticks out is that we got stitched up by Parker, while we bemoan the output of Guthrie and Caddy. At a individual level it's not a very fair comparison because Parker is the outstanding player of that draft. But at an institutional one...we desperately need the 2010 class to step up. Smedts is injured and the other three have seemingly regressed. Guthrie had moments last night that showed that he's a good player in something of a form slump rather than vice versa. And I think Caddy is trying hard - and did they put someone on him after Duncan was injured? 8 clearances is pretty good, but on the other hand we got overrun in the middle in the second half and No. 23 seemed to be the common thread in our on-ball set up.
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Yes the 2010 group issue is only exemplified by our wipe out in 2009.
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I'm actually quite optimistic about the future after last night and to this point in the season in general.
Went into this season thinking to myself that we would be falling away and the thing that was most concerning was whether we would completely bottom out. This was always going to depend more on where our younger blokes were at and the ability of the secondary players to lift themselves. Last night was a good example of our veterans handing over another level responsibility to these other blokes. The days of our premiership players as a core group being able to drive us by themselves to another finals campaign are finally over. Our position on the ladder at the moment is far more indicative of where we are as an entire list. However, the reason I am optimistic about the future is because we are seeing more evidence that the next generation have got the talent and capability to step up. It's really exciting to see blokes like Blicavs, Guthrie, Thurlow, Gregson and Duncan step up the way they did against quality opposition last night.
Sure the team as a whole faded badly in that second half. The weight of Sydney's centre clearances in the third quarter put our defence under enormous pressure and they were never able to recover momentum. The experienced players for Sydney lifted and showed why they are still well in contention for the top spots.
Finally, as a supporter who is prepared to celebrate our younger blokes when they perform above expectations, I must also be willing to have some patience if they don't manage to rise as high. We can all name a number of players on our list who have performed well above expectations thus far this season.
If the team as a whole can continue making steps forward, I will still be satisfied and optimistic come the end of this season.
Went into this season thinking to myself that we would be falling away and the thing that was most concerning was whether we would completely bottom out. This was always going to depend more on where our younger blokes were at and the ability of the secondary players to lift themselves. Last night was a good example of our veterans handing over another level responsibility to these other blokes. The days of our premiership players as a core group being able to drive us by themselves to another finals campaign are finally over. Our position on the ladder at the moment is far more indicative of where we are as an entire list. However, the reason I am optimistic about the future is because we are seeing more evidence that the next generation have got the talent and capability to step up. It's really exciting to see blokes like Blicavs, Guthrie, Thurlow, Gregson and Duncan step up the way they did against quality opposition last night.
Sure the team as a whole faded badly in that second half. The weight of Sydney's centre clearances in the third quarter put our defence under enormous pressure and they were never able to recover momentum. The experienced players for Sydney lifted and showed why they are still well in contention for the top spots.
Finally, as a supporter who is prepared to celebrate our younger blokes when they perform above expectations, I must also be willing to have some patience if they don't manage to rise as high. We can all name a number of players on our list who have performed well above expectations thus far this season.
If the team as a whole can continue making steps forward, I will still be satisfied and optimistic come the end of this season.
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