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[TheUnicorn]

Yes you can. He's not very good.

What would u rather do with that pick? It’s a pretty safe option, with pretty big upside and very little downside.

Plus imagine the Carlton melts if he comes good

 

[eth-dog]

Our depth isn’t very good. Surely he is worth a try

What would u rather do with that pick? It’s a pretty safe option, with pretty big upside and very little downside.

Plus imagine the Carlton melts if he comes good

I'd rather take a chance on someone that might make it rather than use it on someone who won't

 

[Zach Package]

Yes you can. He's not very good.

He’s a bridging player, and the best kind of bridging player, one that’s young enough to still have a career on the off chance he really pops off.

Given we’ve shown very little proclivity for drafting and developing our own inside players we should all be doing somersaults that we’re at least now assessing options and getting a guy who’s floor is ‘way too good for the VFL’.

An astute bit of budget recruiting.

 

[eth-dog]

He’s a bridging player, and the best kind of bridging player, one that’s young enough to still have a career on the off chance he really pops off.

Given we’ve shown very little proclivity for drafting and developing our own inside players we should all be doing somersaults that we’re at least now assessing options and getting a guy who’s floor is ‘way too good for the VFL’.

An astute bit of budget recruiting.

This is the first year that he's really done anything at VFL level.

As I said above I'd rather take a risk on someone who might make it rather than someone who won't.

 

[adsla69k]

So became clear today both North and GWS both want Cadman. North in the Box seat with pick 1 and would have to be a super deal by GWS to prize it from them I'd say.

Pick 2 from WCE should end up at North, eventually and would be the one they trade to GWS if there was a trade between the two to be done and that would only be so GWS could get Sheezel, if they want him after missing out on Cadman. If Im North would be trying to flip 2 for a deal like Essendons 4 and 22. Basically gets them 22 for free. I guess it depends how much GWS want Sheezel as they have the fire power to make a more attractive deal with picks 3, 12, 15, 18, 19.

GWS can basically knock on the door of any club holding any of the picks 4 ~ 8 and try and buy in and get Jefferson if they want a forward and use their pick 3 on best available.

I think Dodos game plan is to sit and wait and see if any club gets desperate at the end. Haynes on 2yrs @ 950k a year is a name mentioned a lot on radio etc and likewise Whitfield. Both would be massive pick ups! And if they were to come in then surely our Future 1st or 2nd goes out to get another 1st round pick in this draft.

 

[Duckworth]

I think Dodos game plan is to sit and wait and see if any club gets desperate at the end. Haynes on 2yrs @ 950k a year is a name mentioned a lot on radio etc and likewise Whitfield. Both would be massive pick ups! And if they were to come in then surely our Future 1st or 2nd goes out to get another 1st round pick in this draft.

surely our future first doesn't go out.

 

[Zach Package]

This is the first year that he's really done anything at VFL level.

As I said above I'd rather take a risk on someone who might make it rather than someone who won't.

How do we take a risk on someone as a club who doesn’t draft inside midfielders, cannot develop inside midfielders and doesn’t seem to have any respect for them.

There have been a myriad of other missed opportunities to address the hole that Setterfield will fill but because we haven’t filled it then it essentially becomes a straight shoot between him and Mathieson.

 

[citizen-erased]

So became clear today both North and GWS both want Cadman. North in the Box seat with pick 1 and would have to be a super deal by GWS to prize it from them I'd say.

Pick 2 from WCE should end up at North, eventually and would be the one they trade to GWS if there was a trade between the two to be done and that would only be so GWS could get Sheezel, if they want him after missing out on Cadman. If Im North would be trying to flip 2 for a deal like Essendons 4 and 22. Basically gets them 22 for free. I guess it depends how much GWS want Sheezel as they have the fire power to make a more attractive deal with picks 3, 12, 15, 18, 19.

GWS can basically knock on the door of any club holding any of the picks 4 ~ 8 and try and buy in and get Jefferson if they want a forward and use their pick 3 on best available.

I think Dodos game plan is to sit and wait and see if any club gets desperate at the end. Haynes on 2yrs @ 950k a year is a name mentioned a lot on radio etc and likewise Whitfield. Both would be massive pick ups! And if they were to come in then surely our Future 1st or 2nd goes out to get another 1st round pick in this draft.

I think we abandon any idea of cadman now.
Haynes would be alright to strengthen the backline.
Whitfield is an elite wingman/hbf runner. Big upgrade on heppell there.

Even if gws dont stump up picks (which we should make them do anyway. 15 would do), they'd give us mature quality to work with and provide time to develop kids.

22 can possibly be used to facilitate bowes
Bowes and 22 -> geel
ess F3 -> gcs
7 -> dons

 

[adsla69k]

surely our future first doesn't go out.

I know we are talking to Setterfield, but surely that's PSD or loose change picks. But I can easily see us getting one or two of T. Mitchell, Haynes, Whitfield, Dunkley, maybe even some of the older WCE players are obtainable for bugger all. I feel the list needs some older leaders on the field for guidance. So by swapping our future 1st perhaps we take a player like Jefferson and not rush him.

 

[citizen-erased]

surely our future first doesn't go out.

We'd be crazy to trade it imo.
Even if dunkley became an option, id rather trade 4 and 22 for dunkley, 11 and 39

We could finish quite low next year and it will be a crop of kids who've had a good run to the draft without covid interruptions.

 

[Dons4Life]

So became clear today both North and GWS both want Cadman. North in the Box seat with pick 1 and would have to be a super deal by GWS to prize it from them I'd say.

Pick 2 from WCE should end up at North, eventually and would be the one they trade to GWS if there was a trade between the two to be done and that would only be so GWS could get Sheezel, if they want him after missing out on Cadman. If Im North would be trying to flip 2 for a deal like Essendons 4 and 22. Basically gets them 22 for free. I guess it depends how much GWS want Sheezel as they have the fire power to make a more attractive deal with picks 3, 12, 15, 18, 19.

GWS can basically knock on the door of any club holding any of the picks 4 ~ 8 and try and buy in and get Jefferson if they want a forward and use their pick 3 on best available.

I think Dodos game plan is to sit and wait and see if any club gets desperate at the end. Haynes on 2yrs @ 950k a year is a name mentioned a lot on radio etc and likewise Whitfield. Both would be massive pick ups! And if they were to come in then surely our Future 1st or 2nd goes out to get another 1st round pick in this draft.

Not a hope in hell we trade our F1. Would more be thinking if we were to take on Haynes back ended contract it would be more down the salary dump line where they give us one of their firsts for not much going back just to take his money on.
Reckon this is GWS reset year for their list/ salary cap with the picks they have and under new coach.

 

[Seb78]

Setterfield gets pushed outside when playing in their senior team. Can't play on a wing. When he plays inside he looks good imo. If we get him only to push him out on a wing it's not even worth exploring. He is inside or nothing at all. Worth a shot for mine. Will be cheap. Could be our Will Brodie

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Will Brodie

Age

26

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

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[Duckworth]

I know we are talking to Setterfield, but surely that's PSD or loose change picks. But I can easily see us getting one or two of T. Mitchell, Haynes, Whitfield, Dunkley, maybe even some of the older WCE players are obtainable for bugger all. I feel the list needs some older leaders on the field for guidance. So by swapping our future 1st perhaps we take a player like Jefferson and not rush him.

None of those players is close to being 1st round worthy. Dunkley, maybe, but no way is Scott interested.

 

[Snake Charmer]

I’m very happy by the news of a Setterfield deal likely to get done. He’s by no means best 22 but is great depth and showed plenty in the last month at Carlton as am inside mid. Stocked to get him

 

[citizen-erased]

Not a hope in hell we trade our F1. Would more be thinking if we were to take on Haynes back ended contract it would be more down the salary dump line where they give us one of their firsts for not much going back just to take his money on.
Reckon this is GWS reset year for their list/ salary cap with the picks they have and under new coach.

22 -> gws
13 & haynes to us

 

[Duckworth]

Setterfield gets pushed outside when playing in their senior team. Can't play on a wing. When he plays inside he looks good imo. If we get him only to push him out on a wing it's not even worth exploring. He is inside or nothing at all.

I call it the Hibberd effect.

 

[adsla69k]

We'd be crazy to trade it imo.
Even if dunkley became an option, id rather trade 4 and 22 for dunkley, 11 and 39

We could finish quite low next year and it will be a crop of kids who've had a good run to the draft without covid interruptions.

If we snag Haynes, Setterfield and Dunkley. And also Davey x2 and Munkara. There is no way we end up bottom 6. Got to remember we had a mute gimp as coach not changing the game plan till about round 12 this year. Plus another year of development in the youngest AFL list.

I really think we look to trade the futures forward and draft some talent to develop in the VFL with no pressure on them.

I think all this makes for a very competitive list vying to all get into the 22.

 

[Sporno 4 Pyros]

Cats send 7&25 to swans for 14&17

We send future second and 42 to cats for 14

Cats give our future second to GC Suns and keep their future first for when they go after DeKonings brother at the end of next year because the blues have no room in their cap.
Then send 17 to the pies for Henry

 

[TheGrizz]

Meh.
Would rather Bytel. Hopefully we try to get both.

22 -> gws
13 & haynes to us

Whitfield/Haynes won't get dumped with a pick, GWS set to go to the draft.

If they are dumped it will be like a Tom Scully deal where they trade him for a pick commensurate to how much salary the new club takes (if we take 100% we can have him for pick 70 for example)

 

[citizen-erased]

Meh.
Would rather Bytel. Hopefully we try to get both.

Whitfield/Haynes won't get dumped with a pick, GWS set to go to the draft.

If they are dumped it will be like a Tom Scully deal where they trade him for a pick commensurate to how much salary the new club takes (if we take 100% we can have him for pick 70 for example)

Id take that too. Haynes is a good defender. Esp good to teach reid, zerk and cox.

 

[Dons4Life]

Meh.
Would rather Bytel. Hopefully we try to get both.

Whitfield/Haynes won't get dumped with a pick, GWS set to go to the draft.

If they are dumped it will be like a Tom Scully deal where they trade him for a pick commensurate to how much salary the new club takes (if we take 100% we can have him for pick 70 for example)

Im 100% not taking Haynes contract on without a large enticing sweetener. At his age and $$remaining, if you were getting nothing other than the player and the contract we would be stupid to do so. Would be much better served saving the cash and investing the time into the youth at the club

 

[Doss]

Setterfield does not even remotely enthuse me, if I am being honest.

 

[adsla69k]

Cats send 7&25 to swans for 14&17

We send future second and 42 to cats for 14

Cats give our future second to GC Suns and keep their future first for when they go after DeKonings brother at the end of next year because the blues have no room in their cap.
Then send 17 to the pies for Henry

Cats want Jhye Clarke bad! So 7 is totally off the table. They have 25 but needs to be upped a bit to get Henry. Sav might go out and whatever comes in for him gets pinned to 25. This is why Cats have been super active because they know teams will want to fulfill their NGA / FS points and the longer you wait the teams higher in the draft willing to trade out all get flushed out. Maybe cats look to get Sav to GWS with 25 and get 19 back somehow.

Or ESS trade 22 for Haynes and 31. Then 22 can go to cats.

We really need Port, WCE, Norf to sort out what they are doing. From there things will flow on.

 

[BrunoV]

Am I the only one who doesn’t like a lot of the moves other clubs are making so far?

I’m not convinced on Bruhn to the point where I’d give a first for him, 5 year deal for Logue seems wildly unnecessary and Richmond are about to do a first, a second and Soldo for Hopper.

Think if you stopped the clock now I’d only be giving Brisbane a big, fat tick and probably Carlton a little, wispy tick.

It depends on the specific circumstances of each club.

The Tigers really lack inside grunt. As far as a tilt at 2024 is concerned they could hardly find 2 better players to round things out.

Soldo's depth which they'll have to replace. Betweem Graham, Taranto, Hopper and Ross they've got their inside stocks sorted for a long time.

Logue probably doesn't go to North for anything less and they need another tall defender.

Nothing really stands out to me as over the top. 4 x first round picks for Hopper and Taranto is a bit much.

 

[BrunoV]

Setterfield does not even remotely enthuse me, if I am being honest.

He's the perfect player for our dumb arse list boss.

He basically fre and he's tall. It doesn't really matter how he plays.