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[footyfanatic111]

Weideman is not for me. He lacks the competitiveness and ferocity a player of his size needs to show to make it at afl level.
you could say the same thing about wright but Peter is 2 metres.
I am bothered we are picking up 2 blokes who can’t crack their teams best side
i would rather use 22 on graham and actually see if Baldwin, Eyre,bryan, brand and mcbride can actually play a key position role.
rudderless rutten never bothered to check

We’re not using 22 for him though.
it’s a value pick. 3rd rounder
The same was said about wright as you said and he just won our BNF.
Change of scenery can do wonders

 

[Koopa]

A little surprising chasing Weiderman considering Eyre, Baldwin and Brand are around. That's Waterman's papers stamped you'd think.

The cupboard is pretty bare, not like we've got the cream of the crop nominating us. It's not 100% ideal but Setterfield and Weiderman represent low risk additions that can play a role for likely token picks. There really isn't any other options when it comes to ins and especially for the former, players that meet our immediate needs.

See what happens...

 

[foj1]

We’re not using 22 for him though.
it’s a value pick. 3rd rounder
The same was said about wright as you said and he just won our BNF.
Change of scenery can do wonders

Please read my post again
we have 5 talls who have barely played
this bloke has played 15 games in 2 years with the best midfield in the league feeding him
we just need to find out if Eyre, brand, Reid, Baldwin, mcbride and Bryan can play forward and also hope Harry jones can get his body right
that is a lot of talls on the list that you couldn’t make reasonable judgements about
there is nothing astute about trading for weideman and setterfield it reeks of desperation

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Happy with Weideman and Setterfield for late picks if that’s what we net through trade. Both fill needs and at worst become good depth, at best could completely transform our team.

 

[Fear Boner]

Is it true Davey Jnr is yet to actually nominate us ?

 

[doug85]

Is it true Davey Jnr is yet to actually nominate us ?

Yes

 

[Lore]

Please read my post again
we have 5 talls who have barely played
this bloke has played 15 games in 2 years with the best midfield in the league feeding him
we just need to find out if Eyre, brand, Reid, Baldwin, mcbride and Bryan can play forward and also hope Harry jones can get his body right
that is a lot of talls on the list that you couldn’t make reasonable judgements about
there is nothing astute about trading for weideman and setterfield it reeks of desperation

Weideman is more of a third banana anyway isn’t he? I haven’t watched him much since he was drafted but he strikes me as a similar sort to Harry Jones, tall but not 200 and not a big lump like a Cameron Buddy Hawkins etc. that can wrestle with a key defender and still take the mark if necessary.

 

[Fear Boner]

Yes

Yikes ....

 

[Milanista28]

Curious to see if Weideman could make it as a defender.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Weideman is more of a third banana anyway isn’t he? I haven’t watched him much since he was drafted but he strikes me as a similar sort to Harry Jones, tall but not 200 and not a big lump like a Cameron Buddy Hawkins etc. that can wrestle with a key defender and still take the mark if necessary.

He’s 197cm and 97kg so more a key forward big banana IMO. He was quite strong in his TAC cup years and was known for his contested marking. Hasn’t quite put it all together at AFL level yet but still has age on his side.

 

[Schnitzengruben]

If we get Weideman, I hope Scott learns from the mistakes of previous coaches by playing him for 2 games and then dropping him and simultaneously wondering why he doesn't have any confidence.

I think if Weids could kick 30 next year and Based God Poite kick another 40-50, that would be a pretty great outcome.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

What worries me more so is that it's not like we simply don't have a second tall option, we do. Harry Jones simply needs to play 18+ games next year. We know he has the ability but to build that camaraderie with 2MP, they need to play together. Couple that with having Baldwin play early and the potential of Reid, Eyre being able to play fwd and it feels like a list decision just because. Not needed

Our forward line has always functioned best with Wright, Jones and another tall. In 2021 it was Hooker. This year it looked good when Stewart played there.

 

[dazzledavey36]

Weideman is not for me. He lacks the competitiveness and ferocity a player of his size needs to show to make it at afl level.
you could say the same thing about wright but Peter is 2 metres.
I am bothered we are picking up 2 blokes who can’t crack their teams best side
i would rather use 22 on graham and actually see if Baldwin, Eyre,bryan, brand and mcbride can actually play a key position role.
rudderless rutten never bothered to check

You've summed him up well.

We all wanted him to make it but truth is, he's incredibly soft, both mentally and physically who double grabs his marks. Couldn't even get a game ahead of Ben Brown who was absolutely cooked on one leg while Weid was fully fit.

Wish him well.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Weid out a solution: Dees-Dons trade could set off dominoes

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Please read my post again
we have 5 talls who have barely played
this bloke has played 15 games in 2 years with the best midfield in the league feeding him
we just need to find out if Eyre, brand, Reid, Baldwin, mcbride and Bryan can play forward and also hope Harry jones can get his body right
that is a lot of talls on the list that you couldn’t make reasonable judgements about
there is nothing astute about trading for weideman and setterfield it reeks of desperation

Jones’ spot is secure when he’s fit. He leads high, Weideman would operate closer to goal.

Reid is a defender. Bryan is a ruckman.

Eyre, Brand and McBride have played zero senior games between them. They’re not ready to play KPP at senior level.

One of the biggest issues with our forward line this year is we simply didn’t replace Hooker, who was far more valuable than people realised. Weideman is a ready made replacement at that size. For a third rounder he’s worth it.

 

[Tulip]

He’s a capable forward but he’s never shown the required desire for more than a game at a time. He’s been building his frame for 7 years but a stiff breeze knocks him over. There’s a Leigh Brown style spot for him, he was a promising ruck at Casey after Daw retired, I hope he makes it work.

 

[Tulip]

Weideman is not for me. He lacks the competitiveness and ferocity a player of his size needs to show to make it at afl level.
you could say the same thing about wright but Peter is 2 metres.
I am bothered we are picking up 2 blokes who can’t crack their teams best side
i would rather use 22 on graham and actually see if Baldwin, Eyre,bryan, brand and mcbride can actually play a key position role.
rudderless rutten never bothered to check

2MP played some genuinely good footy for a couple of years and then lost his way as many GC players do/did. Weideman has unfortunately had every opportunity and fell behind Mitch Brown in the pecking order

 

[foj1]

You've summed him up well.

We all wanted him to make it but truth is, he's incredibly soft, both mentally and physically who double grabs his marks. Couldn't even get a game ahead of Ben Brown who was absolutely cooked on one leg while Weid was fully fit.

Wish him well.

Many posters here think of the 1 or 2 good games rather than the 12 ordinary ones
the difference with wright is he is bigger, was playing in a losing side , is a great kick and could second ruck as well
weideman can do none of those things consistently and was in an elite side
many essendon supporters and the list manager settles for off cuts rather than try and develop their own bulls
ps pat voss is another player of similar dimensions to weideman

 

[TheGrizz]

I would rather give Baldwin 18 games next year as the 3rd key forward.

My greater issue is that Scott said when he came in that he wasn't looking to bring in experienced players to fill holes, yet targeting Setterfield and Weideman.

He had a tendency to underplay kids at Norf, I hope this isn't repeating.

 

[Snake Charmer]

love that trade for us. Setterfield and Weid are great swings on the cheap while also be come instant depth. You have to start somewhere with our forward line. It was crap last year. Another tall helps. I don’t have massive hopes for Weid but I’m all aboard us taking a shot

 

[cAsEy_18]

I would rather give Baldwin 18 games next year as the 3rd key forward.

My greater issue is that Scott said when he came in that he wasn't looking to bring in experienced players to fill holes, yet targeting Setterfield and Weideman.

He had a tendency to underplay kids at Norf, I hope this isn't repeating.

Our depth this year was atrocious. Genuinely had 6-7 guys on the list that you couldn’t possibly imagine playing an AFL game.
Next thing you know, a few injuries, and we’re in trouble, with a vfl team really struggling

Neither Setterfield or Weid are that old. At worst, they provide good depth. At best, their serviceable afl players.

Happy with both.

 

[foj1]

Jones’ spot is secure when he’s fit. He leads high, Weideman would operate closer to goal.

Reid is a defender. Bryan is a ruckman.

Eyre, Brand and McBride have played zero senior games between them. They’re not ready to play KPP at senior level.

One of the biggest issues with our forward line this year is we simply didn’t replace Hooker, who was far more valuable than people realised. Weideman is a ready made replacement at that size. For a third rounder he’s worth it.

How do you know if Eyre, brand, mcbride, bryan or Voss are ready unless you TRY THEM
Melbourne tried weideman on many occasions and on most occasions he was not up to it with a lot of footy going inside 50
i hope I am wrong and I sound like a cranky negative bugger which I can be but when will we work out that other Teams off cuts are usually off cuts for a reason? Our coach said we would be the youngest list in the league yet we look to bring in two hack 25 year olds
i would rather throw a round 2 and 3 at Richmond for Jack graham
he would add infinitely more to our side and would honestly be in our top 3 leaders

 

[Foxx]

Wright and Jones the mobile talls.
Weidmann i think is big enough to slot into the mix as the deep big power forward.
We don't have another experienced body on the list who can play that role. Maybe Baldwin.

 

[Yoda_]

I would rather give Baldwin 18 games next year as the 3rd key forward.

My greater issue is that Scott said when he came in that he wasn't looking to bring in experienced players to fill holes, yet targeting Setterfield and Weideman.

He had a tendency to underplay kids at Norf, I hope this isn't repeating.

The Setterfield one I can somewhat make a play for, a defensively minded bigger midfielder injected into our engine room could help give us a whole new dynamic.



The Weidemann link is perplexing when we have unproven guys looking to push for AFL games.

 

[foj1]

I think our efforts are that of a club trying to be relevant rather than working on developing young talent that has been on the list for a couple of years
it will be interesting if all the young talls are retained